May 12, 2026 City Council Regular Meeting

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AND NOW THE TEXAS FLAG.

I PLEAD THE TEXAS FLAG I TO THIS, TO THE TEXAS ONE STATE UNDER GOD WON AN INDIVISIBLE.

THE AGENDA IS PRESENTATIONS.

AND YOU ALL MAY BE SEATED.

ALRIGHT, NEXT ON

[a. Present a Proclamation designating the week of May 17-23, 2026, as National Public Works Week in Cedar Hill.]

UH, THE FIRST PRESENTATION IS PRESENTED, PROCLAMATION DESIGNATING THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH THROUGH THE 23RD, 2026, AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN CEDAR HILL.

THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY MAYOR PRO, TIM GLOVER.

COME ON DOWN, GUYS.

CEDAR HILL, WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND MUST DESIGN, CONSTRUCT, OPERATE, AND MAINTAIN THE TRANSPORTATION, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWER SERVICE, DRAINAGE COLLECTION SYSTEMS AND FLEET MAINTENANCE ESSENTIAL TO SERVE, TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF CEDAR HILL.

PREPARED FOR THAT.

THERE'S JUST SOME MISSING, MISSING INFORMATION.

YEAH, IT IS INDEED AN HONOR TO STAND IN FRONT OF OUR PUBLIC WORK STAFF, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE HERE TODAY.

AND I WANNA THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT AND MAKING ME LOOK GOOD.

IT IS MY HONOR TO PRESENT A PROCLAMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, WHERE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IS A CELEBRATION OF THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF MEN AND WOMEN IN NORTH AMERICA WHO PROVIDE AND MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE, FACILITIES, AND SERVICE COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS SERVICES PROVIDED IN CEDAR HILL ARE AN INTEGRAL, OFTEN UNSEEN PART OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR EVERYDAY, OF OUR CITIZENS EVERYDAY LIVES.

AND WHEREAS IT IS IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST FOR CITIZENS, CIVIC LEADERS, AND CHILDREN IN CEDAR HILL TO GAIN KNOWLEDGE AND TO MAINTAIN AN ONGOING INTEREST AND UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPORTANCE OF PUBLIC WORKS.

AND WHEREAS ONE EXAMPLE OF THE DEDICATION AND IMPORTANCE OF OUR CEDAR HILL PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT WAS THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO CONTINUALLY PROVIDE SERVICES TO ITS CITIZENS THROUGHOUT SIGNIFICANT STORM EVENTS.

AND WHEREAS PUBLIC WORKS SERVES SERVICES COULD NOT BE PERFORMED WITHOUT THE DEDICATED EFFORTS OF PUBLIC WORK, MAINTENANCE WORKERS, EQUIPMENT OPERATORS, DIVISION LEADERS, ENGINEERS, PROFESSIONALS AND ADMINISTRATORS REPRESENTING CEDAR,

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NOW, THEREFORE, I, STEPHEN MASON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, TO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE WEEK OF MAY 17TH TO MAY 23RD, 2026, AS NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS WEEK IN THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, AND URGE ALL CITIZENS AND CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS TO ACQUAINT THEMSELVES WITH THE WIDE RANGE OF SERVICES, WHICH INVOLVE THE CITY'S PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

AND TO RECOGNIZE THE CONTRIBUTIONS WHICH PUBLIC WORKS EMPLOYEES MAKE EACH AND EVERY DAY TO OUR HEALTH, SAFETY, COMFORT, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.

AND WITNESS WHEREOF, I HAVE HEARING TO SET MY HAND THAT HAVE CAUSED THE SEAL OF CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS TO BE AFFIXED THIS DAY 12TH, THIS 12TH DAY OF MAY, 2026.

AND BE SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR STEVE MASON.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I JUST WANNA SAY A COUPLE WORDS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR CITY COUNCIL FOR, UH, THE SUPPORT AND RECOGNITION.

I'M JUST GONNA INTRODUCE EVERYBODY IN A MINUTE.

NO, I'M TRYING NOT.

BUT I AM INCREDIBLY PROUD OF THIS TEAM.

THEY WORK VERY HARD EVERY DAY, VERY OFTEN BEHIND THE SCENES TO MAKE SURE OUR CITY IS SAFE AND MOVING FORWARD.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RECOGNITION.

OH, OKAY.

I GOT IT HERE.

UM, OKAY.

WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, GENTLEMEN.

THANK YOU, UH, STACY, UH, FOR THAT.

AGENDA, UH, PRESENTATION IS A, UH, PRESENT, A PROCLAMATION DESIGN THE MONTH OF MAY, 2026 AS A LS AWARENESS MONTH IN CEDAR HILL.

THANK YOU, UH, TO THE, TO THE CREW, UH, CELEBRATING, UH, PUBLIC WORKS WEEK.

NEXT ON THE

[b. Present a Proclamation designating the month of May 2026 as ALS Awareness Month in Cedar Hill.]

THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY OUR VERY OWN COUNCIL MEMBER, DAN HAYDEN.

WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY HERE TODAY TO, UH, TO RECEIVE IT.

I'LL JUST READ IT UP HERE IF THAT'S OKAY.

SO, YES, THAT IS JUST FINE, SIR.

HAS COMMITTED MORE THAN 154 MILLION TO SUPPORT MORE THAN 550 PROJECTS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND 18 OTHER COUNTRIES.

WELL, IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO READ THIS PROCLAMATION OF THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, WHEREAS A LS COMMONLY KNOWN AS THE LOU GEHRIG'S DISEASE IS PROGRESSIVE, IS A PROGRESSIVE NEURAL GEN.

UH, I KNEW I JUST MESSED UP NEUROGENERATIVE DISEASE IN WHICH A PERSON'S BRAIN LOSES CONNECTION WITH THEIR MUSCLES.

AND WHEREAS ON AVERAGE, PATIENTS DIAGNOSED WITH A LS SURVIVE ONLY TWO TO FIVE YEARS FROM THE TIME OF DIAGNOSTIC DIAGNOSIS.

AND WHEREAS THE EXACT CAUSE OF A LS ARE UNKNOWN AND THERE IS NO KNOWN CURE FOR A LS.

AND WHEREAS THOUSANDS OF NEW A LS CA CASES ARE REPORTED, REPORTED EVERY YEAR, AND ESTIMATES SHOW THAT EVERY 90 SECONDS OR 90 MINUTES SOMEONE IN IS DIAGNOSED WITH A LS.

AND WHEREAS RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY ARE MORE LIKELY TO DEVELOP A LS THAN THOSE WITH NO HISTORY OF MILITARY SERVICE.

AND WHEREAS SECURING ACCESS TO NEW THERAPIES, DURABLE MEDICAL EQUIPMENT AND COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGIES ARE VITAL IMPORTANCE TO PEOPLE LIVING IN WITH A LS.

AND WHEREAS CLINICAL TRIALS PLAY A PIVOTAL ROLE IN THE EVALUATING NEW TREATMENTS, ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND FOSTERING ASSIST, UH, ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES FOR THOSE LIVING IN A WITH A LS.

AND WHEREAS THE A LS ASSOCIATION IS THE LARGEST, UH, PHIL PHIL, PHIL, I HAD IT WHILE AGO, DIDN'T I? PHILANTHROPIC, PHILANTHROPIC, UH, FUND FUNDER OF A LS RESEARCH GLOBALLY AND

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AND WHEREAS THE A LS ASSOCIATION IS COMMITTED TO MAKING A LS LIVABLE AND FINDING A CURE, AND WHEREAS A LS AWARE AWARENESS MONTH PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE PUBLIC AWARENESS OF THE DIRE CIRCUMSTANCES OF PEOPLE LIVING WITH A LS AND TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE IMMENSE IMPACT THIS DISEASE HAS ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS AND THEIR FAMILIES AND SUPPORT RESEARCH TO ERADICATE THIS DISEASE.

NOW, THEREFORE, OUR MAYOR, STEVE MASON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, DOES HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY, 2026 AS A LS AWARENESS MONTH IN THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, AND CALL UPON ALL RESIDENTS TO JOIN IN SUPPORT OF THE A LS RESEARCH, ADVOCATING FOR INCREASING FUNDS AND STANDING IN SOLIDARITY WITH THOSE AFFECTED BY THIS RELENTLESS DISEASE HEREIN.

TWO.

THEREFORE, I HAVE SET MY HAND ON THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL TO BE AFFIXED THIS 12TH DAY OF MAY, 2026, SIGNED BY OUR MAYOR STEVE MASON.

ALRIGHT, GOOD.

AND, UH, MARY WAS GONNA RECEIVE THIS AWARD, BUT WE'LL BE SURE TO PROVIDE THE, UH, PROCLAMATION TO HER AND, UH, IN, UH, IN SPIRIT OF A LS AWARENESS.

UH, NEXT PRESENTATION

[c. Present a Proclamation designating the month of May 2026 as National Travel and Tourism month in Cedar Hill.]

IS, UH, PRESENTED PROCLAMATION DESIGNATED THE MONTH OF MAY, 2026 AS NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURISM MONTH IN CEDAR HILL.

THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MALONE.

NOW I CAN SAY PHILANTHROPIC, BUT I COULDN'T WHILE AGO.

YOU DID GREAT.

SO WE HAVE A LOT OF AWESOME THINGS GOING ON IN CEDAR HILL, SO IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY, UM, IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE AN AWESOME TOURISM BOARD SO WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT TO THE WHOLE DFW AREA, HOW SPECIAL CEDAR HILL IS PROCLAMATION OFFICE OF THE MAYOR.

WHEREAS TRAVEL AND TOURISM PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THE ECONOMIC VITALITY OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, SUPPORTING LOCAL BUSINESS GENERATING REVENUE AND ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS.

AND WHEREAS, AS KNOWN, THE NATURAL HEART OF THE METROPLEX, CEDAR HILL'S, UNIQUE, NATURAL BEAUTY, VIBRANT, HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AND ATTRACTION SUCH AS GREAT GREENWAY POSITION, THE CITY AS A PREMIER DESTINATION IN THE NORTH TEXAS.

AND WHEREAS TOURISM SUPPORTS JOBS, FOSTERS COMMUNITY PRIDE CREATES MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES FOR BOTH VISITORS AND RESIDENTS.

AND WHEREAS IN 2025, VISITORS SPENDING WAS A LITTLE OVER 71 MILLION IN CEDAR HILL.

470 LOCAL JOBS WERE TOURISM SUPPORTED.

26.8 MILLION WAS INCOME GENERATED FROM TOURISM RELATED ACTIVITIES.

AND 11.6 MILLION IS COMBINED TAX, TAX REVENUE WAS GENERATED.

NOW, THEREFORE, I STEVEN MASON, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE MONTH OF MAY, 2026 AS NATIONAL TRAVEL AND TOURISM MONTH IN THE SEED IN CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, AND ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS, BUSINESSES, VISITORS, TO RECOGNIZE AND CELEBRATE THE IMPORTANCE OF TOURISM IN OUR COMMUNITY.

I WITNESSED, THEREFORE I HAVE HERE TO SET MY HAND AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF CEDAR HILL TO BE AFFIXED THIS 12TH DAY OF MAY, 2026.

MAYOR STEVE MASON.

3, 2, 1, 3, 2, 1.

THANK YOU, COUNSEL.

ALL I WANTED TO SAY WAS REALLY TOURISM IS MORE THAN JUST, UM, VISITORS.

IT REALLY IS ABOUT COMMUNITY SPIRIT.

IT'S ABOUT BUILDING OUR BUSINESSES AND IT'S ABOUT ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO COME TO CEDAR HILL AND BEHALF ON THE DESTINATION ADVISORY BOARD.

UM, IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR TO SERVE SUCH AN AMAZING CITY AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO DOING A LOT MORE IN JUST SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT HOW AWESOME CEDAR HILL IS AND WHY THIS IS THE PLACE THAT YOU WANT TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, UM, FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS OF THE DESTINATION BOARD.

GOOD.

AND TO QUOTE OUR CITY MANAGER, THE BEST IS YET TO COME.

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NEXT, UH, ITEM ON THE AGENDA UNDER PRESENTATION IS A PRESENTATION OF THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP, MAYORAL SCHOLARSHIP.

ALRIGHT,

[d. Presentation of the Best Southwest Partnership Mayoral Scholarship.]

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER MCCURDY TO PLEASE COME DOWN AND JOIN ME.

AND I SEE AMANDA'S DOWN HERE, SO COME ON UP.

WOW, THAT'S A BIG CHECK.

YEP.

UH, SO WE, WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS, UM, BEEN I GUESS AROUND FOR QUITE SOME TIME.

UH, IT IS THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP AND, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD MCCURDY ACTUALLY LEADS THE EDUCATION PROGRAM.

SO I'D LIKE FOR HIM TO KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHY WE ARE HERE TODAY, AND THEN I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, INTRODUCE THE RECIPIENT.

SO, COUNCILOR MCCURDY.

WELL, UM, THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS MORE.

1993.

1993, YEAH.

WAS ONE OF OUR FIRST YEAH.

1993 .

AND I'M, I'M A, I'M A PREVIOUS, PREVIOUS, FORMER PAST CHAIR, WHATEVER IT IS, SEVERAL YEARS BACK.

I WAS THE, UH, CHAIR FOR THE, FOR THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP.

IT IS AN ORGANIZATION OF CITIES AROUND THE BEST SOUTHWEST AREA, UH, 11 CITIES.

10.

10, OKAY.

10 CITIES NOW.

AND, UM, EACH YEAR EVERY CITY'S MAYOR NOMINATES A STUDENT FROM THEIR CITY TO RECEIVE A MAYORAL SCHOLARSHIP.

UM, WE FUND THAT THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP, UH, THROUGH OUR FUNDRAISING EFFORTS.

THE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE SESSION EVERY YEAR IN AUGUST, SO, UH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP A LOOKOUT FOR THAT.

WE ALSO DO AN ANNUAL STEAM COMPETITION WITH THROUGH THE, UH, EDUCATION, UH, COMMITTEE AND, UH, IN ORDER TO, UH, FURTHER EDUCATION BY OUR, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN OUR REGION AND, AND ALLOW OUR STUDENTS TO PROMOTE THEIR CAPABILITIES AND THEIR AREAS OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY.

UH, BUT HERE TONIGHT WE ARE HERE TO, TO CELEBRATE THE SCHOLAR THAT IS RECEIVING THE, UH, SCHOLARSHIP $2,000 FROM THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP.

AND IT IS GOING TO, AM I SUPPOSED TO, THAT'S YOUR PART.

AND GUIDE THEM TOWARDS SUCCESS AID AND COMMITMENT TO SERVICE IS JUST AS IMPRESSIVE FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.

I SAID I THINK I'M SUPPOSED TO ANNOUNCE IT.

ALRIGHT, WELL, THANK YOU.

UH, COUNCILMAN MCCURDY AND MCCURDY, WHAT, WHAT HE DIDN'T SAY IS ONE OF DUTIES THAT HE SERVES ON THE CITY COUNCIL IS HE'S OUR BOARD MEMBER FOR THE BEST SOUTHWEST PARTNERSHIP.

AND I ALSO AM A EX, EX-OFFICIO MEMBER OF THE BEST SOUTHWEST BOARD.

BUT TONIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE, UH, SOMEONE WHO HAS SHOWN GREAT LEADERSHIP EXEMPLIFIED.

UM, YOU KNOW, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I GUESS GENIUS AND, AND SMART AND HAS WIT AND ALSO HAS A GOOD, STRONG FUTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, A GOOD, STRONG VISION FOR HIS FUTURE.

SO, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND, UH, RECOGNIZE, I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GONNA PUT HIS PICTURE UP YET.

I THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA DO KIND OF A DRUM ROLL, BUT IT'S OKAY.

UM, BUT AID AND LAMONT FOLKS HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED AND HE'S, HE'S HERE WITH US TODAY.

LOOKS LIKE HIS DAD TOO.

UM, YOU JUST LEFT THE STAGE.

YOU JUST, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU JUST RECEIVED? UM, I RECEIVED A 2,500 SCHOLARSHIP AND THEN ANOTHER THOUSAND DOLLARS SCHOLARSHIP.

JUST RIGHT NOW.

TODAY? YES, SIR.

I NEED ANOTHER ONE TOO FOR THAT.

LOOK AT THAT .

NO, HE'S BALLING UP HERE.

SO , SO EIGHT AND LAMONT FO HAS, UH, HAS CONSISTENTLY DEMONSTRATED WHAT IT MEAN TO LEAD WITH INTEGRITY, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND PURPOSE KNOWN TO KNOWN FOR HIS STRONG WORK ETHIC AND DETERMINATION.

AIDEN APPROACHED EVERY OPPORTUNITY WITH FOCUS AND A COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.

ADA HAS MADE A LASTING IMPACT, BOTH ON AND OFF THE FIELD AS A LEADER ON THE SOCCER AND GOLF TEAM.

YOU THINK YOU CAN BEAT ME IN GOLF ON A GOOD DAY? OKAY.

I HAVE A LOT OF BAD DAYS, SO THAT'S OKAY.

UM, SO HE HAS ENCOURAGED, OH, ACTUALLY I WANTED TO SAY THIS TOO.

YOU, YOU KNOW THIS PERSON RIGHT OVER HERE? YES.

HUH? YOU WANNA SAY HER NAME? MISS MELISSA VALEZ? YEAH.

YOU KNOW HER ALREADY, LIKE PERSONALLY OR YOU NEVER MET HER BEFORE? UH, I'M FRIENDS WITH HER DAUGHTER, SO, YEAH.

UM, I DON'T THINK SHE CAUGHT THAT, BUT I'M ABOUT TO GET TO A POINT HERE IN JUST A MINUTE.

UH, SO HE HAS ENCOURAGED TO BE AND MOTIVATE HIS TEAMMATES WHILE HELPING BUILD A CULTURE OF TEAMWORK AND DISCIPLINE.

HIS LEADERSHIP EXTENDS BEYOND COMPETITION, SERVING AS A MIDDLE SCHOOL SOCCER COACH.

WOW.

HE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO MENTOR YOUNG ATHLETES, ORGANIZE PRACTICES,

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HE HAS VOLUNTEERED FAITHFULLY AT HIS CHURCH AS A SOUND ENGINEER, WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES TO SUPPORT WEEKLY SERVICES AND SPECIAL EVENTS.

HE HAS ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY EFFORTS THROUGH THE NATIONAL HONOR SOCIETY INITIATIVE AND LOCAL EVENTS, ALWAYS FINDING WAYS TO GIVE BACK THIS FALL AIDEN WILL ATTEND SAM HOUSTON STATE UNIVERSITY, WHERE HE PLANS TO MAJOR IN BUSINESS MANAGEMENT WITH A MINOR IN MARKETING WITH ASPIRATIONS OF BECOMING A COMPANY, ASPIRATIONS OF BECOMING.

IT SAYS A COMPANY.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? A BUSINESS BUSINESS OWNER, UH, ENTREPRENEUR.

IT WAS, IT WAS EITHER, WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A CITY MANAGER.

OH, OKAY.

GUY GAVE IT UP.

YOU HEARD THAT .

SO IT, IT SAYS ON HERE, BECOMING A COMPANY OR A CITY MANAGER.

SO BE CAREFUL NOW, BUT SERIOUSLY, THERE MAY BE A MENTORING OPPORTUNITY, SO YOU HAVE TO GO MAKE SURE YOU GET TO KNOW HER.

UH, AND HE IS PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, CREATING OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHERS BY HELPING BUSINESSES GROW AND STRENGTHENING LOCAL ECONOMY.

AIDEN REPRESENTS THE VERY BEST OF THIS SCHOLARSHIP, HARD WORK, LEADERSHIP, SERVICE AND VISION.

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, PLEASE JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING OUR BEST SOUTHWEST MAYOR SCHOLARSHIP RECIPIENT.

AIDEN LAMONT.

FOLKS.

YOU ALRIGHT? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, UM, AHEAD.

I REMEMBER BACK IN, UH, 2017 IN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, I GOT AWARD FROM THIS MAYOR, AND SO IT'S GREAT TO BE BACK HERE AGAIN.

AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY IN BEST SOUTHWEST FOR GIVING ME THE SCHOLARSHIP.

AND HOPEFULLY ONE DAY ME AND MRS. VALDEZ CAN CONNECT AND SO I CAN BE, SO I CAN TAKE HER JOB.

WE HAVE A BRIGHT FUTURE AMONG US.

CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN.

ALRIGHT,

[e. Remarks from City Council in recognition of Council Member Daniel C. Haydin Jr.’s 26 years of service.]

NEXT WE WOULD HAVE, UM, REMARKS FROM CITY COUNCIL AND RECOGNITION OF COUNCIL MEMBER DANIEL C. HAYDEN JR.

26 YEARS OF SERVICE ON THE CITY COUNCIL.

UM, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN, YOUR MIC'S ALREADY HOT.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU, I, I AM GONNA MISS BEING ON THE CITY COUNCIL FOR SURE, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'M PROBABLY GONNA MISS, UH, WORKING WITH Y'ALL OF Y'ALL AND MISS YOU INDIVIDUALLY.

YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN REALLY A PLEASURE ALL THESE 26 YEARS TO HAVE SUCH, UH, SUCH GOOD COUNCILS.

BUT I'VE GOTTA, I'VE GOTTA SAY, AND I, AND I TRULY MEAN THIS, THE COUNCIL THAT WE'VE GOT HERE TODAY THAT I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, TO WORK WITH, UH, TO ME I THINK IS THE BEST THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, WORKED ALONG TOGETHER.

AND, AND I JUST, I'M PROUD OF ALL OF Y'ALL AND WE'RE SO TALENTED THAT, UH, I KNOW THE CITY'S GONNA GO FORWARD WITH OUR NEW, UH, CITY, UH, UH, OUR, EXCUSE ME, OUR NEW COUNCIL MEMBER PATTY BUS HART.

WE'RE NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA LOSE A LOSE A STEP, I'M SURE.

SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS AND, UH, UH, I'LL MISS BEING A TEAM MEMBER WITH YOU.

SO, ALRIGHT, GOOD.

UM, ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WANNA SAY ANYTHING? COUNCILWOMAN AZI? WELL, WELL, UH, THANK YOU MAYOR FIRST, UH, COUNCILMAN HAYDEN, WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU TOO.

AND, UH, I'VE KNOWN COUNCILMAN HAYDEN BEFORE, UH, I JOINED THE COUNCIL EVERY YEAR.

HE WOULD ALWAYS CALL ME IS WHEN I MANAGED THE SHOPPING CENTER.

HE WOULD ALWAYS CALL ME AND ASK THE SAME THING IF WE, THEY COULD HAVE, UH, A CARNIVAL.

AND EVERY YEAR I'D SAY NO.

BUT HE'D STILL, YOU KNOW, HE WOULD, HE WOULD STILL , HE WOULD STILL ASK.

BUT WHAT I REMEMBER IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HE WAS SO KIND IN THE WAY THAT HE HANDLED THE SITUATION AND THAT HE WAS SUCH A GOOD LISTENER.

AND I FEEL LIKE EVERY TIME HE CAME BACK WITH SOMETHING NEW THAT HE THOUGHT THAT MIGHT MIGHT WORK.

UH, BUT ONCE I JOINED THE COUNCIL, I REALLY

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SEE HOW THOSE QUALITIES PLAY OUT.

UM, IN EACH OF OUR MEETINGS, UH, HE'S OPEN TO LISTEN TO ALL SIDES.

UM, HE'S INTENTIONAL ABOUT FAIRNESS AND, UH, LISTENING TO ALL THE OPINIONS IN ORDER TO COME TO THE BEST SOLUTIONS.

AND, UM, I'VE LEARNED A LOT FROM HIM.

I STILL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.

I WILL SAY THAT YOUR EMPATHY IS THE MOST AMAZING THING, BUT I'M STILL NOT CLEAR ON HOW YOU EAT SO MUCH AND NEVER GAIN A POUND .

SO I GUESS THAT MAY, YOU KNOW, BE AN UNANSWERED THING.

AND, UM, THEN JUST THIS THOUGHT OF YOUR COMMITMENT TO FAIRNESS.

AND YOU KNOW, I'VE SAID IT BEFORE, YOU LISTEN TO BOTH SIDES, BUT YOU GO THE EXTRA MILE AND YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO TRY TO FIND HOW WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.

YOU'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR THAT SOLUTION, AND I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WILL TRY TO INCORPORATE MORE OF.

'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE OPINIONATED, BUT I WILL TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT MORE BECAUSE, UM, I SEE IT AND I THINK YOU DO IT MASTERFULLY.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT, NEXT, UH, PRO GLOVER.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M, IF I'M GOING TO LOOK AT YOU BECAUSE I'LL PROBABLY START CRYING.

SO I'M JUST GONNA KINDA LOOK OUT HERE.

I WANT, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE, NOT ONLY TO OUR CITY, BUT TO OUR ENTIRE COUNCIL, ESPECIALLY TO ME.

UM, I REMEMBER MY FIRST, UM, RETREAT WHERE YOU WERE JUST SO SUPPORTIVE AND COMING INTO, UH, BEING A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER AND NOT KNOWING WHAT TO EXPECT.

UH, OUR COUNCIL WAS GREAT, BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR STEWARDSHIP, YOUR BEING A BIG BROTHER.

UM, FUN FACT ABOUT, UM, COUNCILMAN HAYDEN IS THAT HE IS A HEALTH ENTHUSIAST.

AND I THOUGHT I WAS GROWN, BUT NOW AFTER MEETING YOU, WHEN I GROW UP, I WANTED TO BE JUST LIKE YOU AND I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO HUNDREDS OF CRUNCHES AND PUSHUPS EVERY DAY.

AND I HAVE, I HAVE A HIGH WEATHER MARK TO SHOOT FOR.

UM, BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO MISS MOSTLY IS YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONNECTION.

YOU HELP US CONNECT TO THE PAST AND TO ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AS A CITY, AND YOU BRING THOSE FORWARD.

AND IT'S BEEN AN HONOR KNOWING YOU, I KNOW WE WILL STILL CONNECT, BUT I APPRECIATE YOUR STEWARDSHIP AND YOUR DIRECTION AND LEADERSHIP, NOT ONLY FOR OUR CITY, BUT FOR ME INDIVIDUALLY.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL MEMBER GERALD MALONE.

PULL SOME KNOWLEDGE FROM YOU.

I KINDA HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY FIRST MEMORY OF COUNCILMAN HAYDEN.

AND THERE WAS A SITUATION WHERE WE HAD, I WENT TO THE, MY VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEMBER, MY VERY FIRST COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE HAD IT OVER AT BABES, THIS IS BEFORE THEY MOVED INTO THE GOVERNMENT CENTER.

AND MYSELF AND SEVERAL OF OUR NEIGHBORS, WE CAME OUT TO, UM, KIND OF TALK TO THE COUNCIL AND PUT FORTH OUR THOUGHTS ON CERTAIN THINGS THAT WERE WERE GOING ON AROUND OUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND, UM, AFTER WE KIND OF GOT THROUGH SPEAKING, UH, JUST TRUE TO CHARACTER, WHAT I'VE FOUND OUT ABOUT COUNCILMAN HAYDEN IS THE CARING SIDE OF HIM.

UM, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER WHAT'S GOING ON.

HE WANTS TO MAKE SURE IF YOU GOT WHAT YOU CAME UP FOR RESOLVED, UM, IN A FAIR AND YOU FELT LIKE YOU WERE TREATED FAIR.

AND I THINK HE WAS ABOUT TO GET READY TO PRESENT SOMETHING AT THAT COUNCIL MEETING.

BUT YOU TURNED AROUND AND YOU SAID, AND WE WERE KIND OF JUST STANDING OVER THERE AND YOU WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THE CITIZENS COMING UP AND LETTING US KNOW HOW THEY FELT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION.

AND I'M NOT GONNA NAME THE SITUATION.

AND I JUST WAS LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT REALLY IMPRESSED ME BEFORE I EVEN KNEW HIM.

AND THEN I KNOW WHEN WE HAD, UM, HIS, UM, EVENT, THE OTHER, THE OTHER COUNCIL MEETING, KIND OF RECOGNIZING HIM THE 25 YEARS THAT HE'S BEEN HERE ON COUNCIL AND ALL THE WISDOM.

UH, I KNOW YOU WORKED WITH OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS DOING THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU WERE REALLY, I CONSIDER A PIONEER TO HELP PAVE THE WAY FOR ME AS A, AS A NEW COUNCIL MEMBER GETTING ON COUNCIL.

UM, I KNOW THAT YOU WERE WORKING WITH A GREAT TEAM, BUT I MEAN, JUST THE STANDARD THAT YOU SET AND LIKE YOUR FAMILY SAID EVERY MONDAY NIGHT, YOU WERE SO DEDICATED.

YOU READ THROUGH EVERY PART OF THESE GIGANTIC BOOKS THAT Y'ALL USED TO HAVE, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE ALL THAT ANYMORE.

UM, BUT IT'S STILL THE FACT THAT ATTENTION TO DETAIL TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE CITY STAYED SUCCESSFUL.

HOWEVER, WE DECIDED TO GO FORWARD.

I MEAN, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT ABOUT YOU.

I AM EXCITED ABOUT THE NEW COUNCIL PERSON THAT'S COMING UP.

DEFINITELY WISH I WOULD'VE HAD A LOT MORE TIME WITH YOU, UM, TO BE ABLE TO

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BUT I KNOW I GOT YOUR PHONE NUMBER, SO I, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE AND HOPE THAT I CAN UTILIZE IT IF I NEED TO.

BUT, UM, LIKE I SAID, UH, THE 25 YEARS THAT YOU'VE SACRIFICED TIME WITH YOUR FAMILY TO BE HERE TO HELP THIS GREAT CITY BE AND MOVING TO A VERY SUCCESSFUL PROJECTED DIRECTION, I DEFINITELY APPRECIATE THAT.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CHAD MCCURDY.

DAN, I'M NOT GONNA, UH, BERATE TOO MUCH WHAT HAVE WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID.

UM, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN A, A DILIGENT COUNCIL MEMBER FOR YEARS.

IT HAS BEEN AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO SERVE ALONGSIDE YOU.

UH, YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR LEADERSHIP IS GOING, WILL BE MISSED.

UM, I, UH, HOPE THAT YOU'RE PLANNING ON STICKING AROUND THE CITY AND I THINK YOU ARE.

I, AND, AND WE'LL SEE YOU'VE, UH, HOPE TO SEE YOU AROUND AND CONTINUED YOUR CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT IN, IN MORE THINGS AROUND THE CITY.

I, I WOULD REMIND YOU THAT APPLICATIONS FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS OPEN FOR THREE MORE DAYS.

, AND, AND I AND I HEAR THAT RETIREMENT ISN'T NECESSARILY ALL THAT IT'S CRACKED UP TO BE.

SO I MEAN, THE, THE GREAT PART IS YOU COULD APPLY FOR A BOARD OF COMMISSION AND THE PAY IS THE SAME.

YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GONNA TAKE A PAY CUT FROM GOING FROM A COUNCIL MEMBER.

IF YOU JOIN A BORDER COMMISSION, YOU STILL WON'T BE PAID A DIME .

BUT YOU, YOU HAVE BEEN A FRIEND, UM, AND I, I, I'VE WATCHED, WATCHED HOW YOU OPERATE BOTH ON THE COUNCIL AND IN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND YOU ARE, UH, SOMEONE TO BE ADMIRED.

COUNCIL MEMBER SIMS. THANK YOU MAYOR, FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY OUR FINAL PUBLIC PARTING WORDS TO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN.

UM, I THINK I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH HIM, OF EVERYBODY UP HERE THE LONGEST.

UM, I WAS, UH, I WAS, I WAS CITY MANAGER IN 2000 AND I DIDN'T KNOW DANIEL AT THE TIME, UH, BUT I CAME DOWN, I WAS OFFICIALLY STARTED IN MARCH OF 2000.

AND IN MAY OF 2000, BY THE WAY, IT'S BEEN 26 YEARS IN MAY OF 2000, UH, DANIEL BE THE INCUMBENT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, IF, FOR THE RECORD, THAT'S A, THAT'S REALLY VERY DIFFICULT.

DANIEL BEING AN INCUMBENT.

AND I CAN REMEMBER, UM, HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, REALLY GET TO KNOW DANIEL.

UH, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

I THINK IT WAS A CHAMBER OF COMMERCE RETREAT.

IT WAS IN EAST TEXAS.

WE WERE DRIVING BACK TOGETHER.

I WAS DRIVING, IT WAS A TORRENTIAL RAINSTORM AND I WAS EXTREMELY NERVOUS.

AND DAN WOULD CONTINUE TO TALK TO ME AND MAKE SURE I WAS OKAY.

AND I, I, I REALLY GOT THE CHANCE TO SEE THE SIDE OF HIS EMPATHY AND HIS CARING.

'CAUSE HE WAS CONCERNED.

I'M DRIVING AND HE WAS THROUGH THIS TORRENTIAL RAINSTORM, AND DANIEL JUST LOOKED OUT FOR ME TO MAKE SURE I WAS OKAY.

BUT I, THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS ABOUT DANIEL THAT STAND OUT TO ME.

HIS CONSISTENCY, HE, HIS CONSTANT PRESENCE THROUGH THICKER THIN, UP OR DOWN, UH, INS AND OUT, DANIEL HAS BEEN THERE.

AND WHEN I LOOK BACK OVER ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE HAPPENED, THESE GREAT PROJECTS IN THIS CITY, THIS GOVERNMENT CENTER, THE ONLY ONE OF ITS KIND IN STATE OF TEXAS, AND THEN THE SHOPPING CENTERS, MULTIPLE SHOPPING CENTERS, UPTOWN VILLAGE, EVERY ONE OF THOSE THINGS, DANIEL HAS HAD A PART OF IT.

AND SO I JUST, UM, IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR ME 'CAUSE I'VE WORKED WITH HIM FOR SO LONG.

BUT I WILL SAY THIS, OVER THE YEARS, I'VE LEARNED THAT DANIEL IS SOMEBODY THAT YOU CAN COUNT ON.

YOU CAN DEPEND ON HIM.

AND FOR ME, AND I SAID THIS TO MAYOR DEM GLOVER, THAT TO ME, HE'S A EPITOME OF A PUBLIC SERVANT.

AND THERE'S A SCRIPTURE IN THE BIBLE THAT SAYS, WHOSOEVER WOULD BE GREAT AMONG YOU.

LET HIM BE YOUR SERVANT.

SO I WOULD SAY TO YOU, DANIEL, YOU ARE A GREAT MAN.

SCRIPTURE, YOU'RE A GREAT MAN.

AND YOU MIGHT BE SMALL IN STATUTE, BUT TO ME, YOU'RE A GIANT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH, DANIEL, FOR YOUR YEARS OF SERVICE.

BEAUTIFUL.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU, YOU'RE MORE THAN A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU'RE A FRIEND, RIGHT? UM, DAN HAS, HAS, HAS BEEN IN MY LIFE AND IN MULTIPLE DIFFERENT, UM, I GUESS PHASES OF MY LIFE.

THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR YOUR KIND, SPEECHLESS, BEAUTIFUL.

APPRECIATE YOU.

I KNOW WE'RE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, BROTHERS AND SISTERS FOREVER.

SO BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL.

UM, I, YOU KNOW, I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

UM, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, DAN,

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AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A, YOU KNOW, DAN IS SO FUNNY.

I MEAN, IF YOU KNOW DAN, HE'S JUST FUNNY.

AND I REMEMBER ONE TIME, I THINK WE WAS AT A RETREAT.

WE, I NEVER SEEN DAN LIGHT UP LIKE A KID IN A CANDY STORE.

UM, BUT, BUT FOR SOME REASON THERE WAS LIKE A HELICOPTER THAT HE HAD A REMOTE CONTROL TO IT.

YOU REMEMBER THIS.

Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT? YEAH.

AND MAN, HE WAS SO HAPPY.

HE HAD THIS REMOTE CONTROL.

HE WAS FLYING, HE WENT OUTSIDE, HE WAS FLYING IT AROUND.

I'M LIKE, DAMN, WE GOTTA GO MEET TO A MEETING.

HE SAYS, OKAY, I'LL BE IN A MINUTE.

AND, UH, HE FLEW THAT HELICOPTER RIGHT INTO A TREE, AND .

AND HE WAS SO SAD HE COULDN'T GET THE HELICOPTER DOWN.

HE WAS TRYING TO GET IT DOWN.

UH, YEAH, HE WAS, YOU KNOW, HE JUST, HE'S JUST SO FUNNY.

HE DON'T EVEN MEAN TO BE FUNNY, BUT HE JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST, JUST GOT A GOOD, GOOD VIBE ABOUT HIM.

UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, SOME OF, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID THIS ALREADY, AND I'LL SAY A FEW THINGS, BUT YOU KNOW, DAN WAS ALWAYS THE VOICE OF REASON, RIGHT? I MEAN, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU GOTTA MAKE TOUGH DECISIONS SOMETIMES.

BUT HE ALWAYS SAW BOTH SIDES OF IT.

AND ALTHOUGH WE THINK IT, UH, SOMETIMES WE JUST SO FOCUSED ON JUST DOING THE BUSINESS, BUT HE ALWAYS SLOWS DOWN AND HAS A EMPATHY, UH, EMPATHETIC, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SIDE THAT BOTH SIDES, YOU KNOW, HAS TO BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT WE CAN ALL COMPROMISE AND COME TOGETHER.

AND THAT EXTRA LITTLE PUSH.

AGAIN, I'M SO CLOUDED BY JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M TRYING TO STAY COMPLIANT, TRYING TO STAY ON THE BUSINESS.

AND THEN AT TIMES DAN WILL SLOW DOWN AND SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, THIS PERSON SAID THIS.

AND I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO ADDRESS THAT.

SO DAN, I TOO WOULD TRY TO INCORPORATE THAT, UH, IN WHAT I DO IS JUST SLOW DOWN, JUST TRY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT.

I'VE ALWAYS TRIED TO DO THAT, BUT I KNEW YOU.

I KNEW I ALWAYS HAD YOU, RIGHT? SO I WASN'T REALLY TOO WORRIED ABOUT IT.

UM, AND THEN I'VE NEVER SEEN YOU HAVE A BAD DAY, RIGHT? I SAID THAT ONCE BEFORE.

I NEVER SEEN HIM HAVE A BAD DAY.

AND WE ALL HAVE LIVES, LIFE BE LIFEING.

AND, UM, BUT YOU ALWAYS CAME PREPARED.

YOU ALWAYS HAD, YOU KNOW, A GOOD AURA ABOUT YOU.

IT'S ONE THING TO BE IN A GOOD MOOD.

IT'S ALWAYS TO BE APPROACHABLE.

AND, AND WE ALWAYS GOT A SENSE OF THAT FOR YOU.

UM, LOOK, MY FINAL WORDS IS YOU, YOU'RE JUST ONE OF A KIND.

YOU, YOU REALLY ARE DAN, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, WHO YOU'LL WITH AS A FRIEND, BUT ALSO YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.

SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

YES, MAYOR.

AND IF YOU GOT, YOU GOTTA PUSH THE BUTTON.

YOU GOT SOMETHING TO SAY, BUT YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

BUT I FORGOT ABOUT THE CARNIVAL , SO I STILL COULDN'T GET THAT CARNIVAL OVER THERE.

SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? IT'S JUST FUNNY.

THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, I JUST GOTTA SAY THAT JUST KIND OF TOUCHES MY HEART.

I GONNA HEAR THAT.

IT JUST MEANS A LOT.

DIDN'T THINK I WAS GONNA HAVE ANY EMOTIONAL PROBLEMS, BUT IT JUST MEANS A LOT WHEN PEOPLE OF THIS TALENT THINK OF YOU.

AND, AND I JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO CARRY ON .

AND, UH, COUNCILOR HAYDEN, UH, COUNCILOR MCCURDY IS NOT AWARE OF THIS, BUT I'VE ALREADY HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT I'M WORKING ON ON THAT I'LL MAKE SURE I POINT YOU ON.

SO DON'T WORRY, I'LL PUT YOU TO WORK HERE PRETTY SOON, PART ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, .

ALL RIGHT, WELL, UM, YOU KNOW, TO GO BACK TO ORIENT BACK TO THE AGENDA, UH, NEXT ITEM IS

[a. Canvass the results of the May 2, 2026 General Election for Place 2 and Place 6.]

ELECTION MATTERS.

UM, CANVAS THE RESULTS OF THE MAY 2ND, 2026 GENERAL ELECTION FOR PLACE TWO AND PLACE SIX.

COUNSEL, IF YOU COULD JUST INDULGE ME AS I HAVE TO CANVAS THE VOTES AND, UM, FOR BOTH DALLAS AND ELLIS COUNTY.

SO, UM, I BELIEVE THEY'RE BOTH CUMULATIVE, RIGHT? OKAY, GOOD.

SO FOR PLACE TWO, EARLY VOTING IN PERSON READS LIKE THIS, PATTY BOHART 467, TY COLEMAN 273, WITH A TOTAL OF 740 EARLY VOTING BY MAIL.

PATTY BOHART, 98, TY COLEMAN 70, TOTAL 168 ON ELECTION DAY, PATTY BOHART, 320 VOTES, TY COLEMAN 203 VOTES WITH A TOTAL OF 523.

SO IN ALL TOTAL, WE HAD PATTY BOHART, 885 TY COLEMAN 546, AND WITH A TOTAL OF 1,431 VOTES WITH THE PERCENTILE OF PUT PATTY BUS HART BEING THE 62% TY COLEMAN, 38%.

AND THAT IS THE TOTAL, UH, 100%

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OF THAT ELECTION.

FOR PLACE TWO, I'D LIKE TO, UH, READ THE CANVAS RESULTS FOR COUNCIL MEMBER PLAY SIX MIRANDA AZI.

EARLY VOTING IN PERSON WAS 664 WITH, HUH? 646? NOPE, I HAVE 664.

OH, THAT? YES, IT'S CUMULATIVE WITH, UM, DALLAS AND ALICE COUNTY.

OH, OKAY.

SORRY.

NO, NO, NO, IT'S NO PROBLEM.

UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO START OVER CA COUNCIL MEMBER PLACE NUMBER SIX, MIRANDA INE WITH NO OPPOSITION.

UH, EARLY VOTING IN PERSON WAS 664.

EARLY VOTING BY MAIL WAS 153.

ON THE ELECTION DAY, SHE RECEIVED 472.

THE TOTAL IS, UH, 1,289 AND THE PERCENTILE THAT IS 100% OF THE VOTES.

SO WITH THAT COUNSEL, I HAVE CANVASED THE VOTES.

I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO MOVE.

UH, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

OH, SORRY.

CUSTOMER HAYDEN HAVING CANVASED THE VOTES OF THE ELECTION HELD ON MAY 2ND, 2026, THE CITY COUNCIL FINDS AND DECLARES THAT THE FOLLOWING CANDIDATES HAVING HAVE RECEIVED A MAJORITY OF THE VOTES AND WERE DULY ELECTED.

UH, PATRICIA BUS, BUS HART CITY COUNCIL PLACED TWO.

MIRANDA INE CITY COUNCIL PLACE SIX.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND.

DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL OR, OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

ANY OPPOSITION? ? I CAN'T TELL.

IS THAT, IS THAT OPPOSITION? MOVE UNANIMOUS.

COOL.

NO.

TURNING BACK NOW, COUNCILWOMAN? NO.

TURNING BACK NOW.

ON THE AGENDA IS INSTALLATION OF CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR PLACE TWO AND PLACE SIX.

NEXT ITEM

[b. Installation of City Council Members for Place 2 and Place 6. Issue Certificates of Election Administer Oaths of Office Remarks by elected officials ]

UH, ISSUE CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION, ADMINISTER OATH OF OFFICE REMARKS BY ELECTED OFFICIALS.

UH, SO COUNCIL, PLEASE INDULGE ME AS I COME DOWN, UH, TO THE BOTTOM.

AND DO WE NEED PLACE TWO AND PLACE SIX, COME DOWN? YES.

SO IF PLACE TWO AND PLACE SIX MEMBERS COULD PLEASE MEET ME AT THE PODIUM.

I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE.

I HAVE THE CERTIFICATE FOR PLACE NUMBER TWO, THIS CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION IN THE NAME AND BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL.

THIS IS TO CERTIFY THAT A GENERAL ELECTION HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 2ND, 2026.

PATRICIA BOHART WAS DULY ELECTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, PLACED TWO IN WITNESS WHEREOF.

I HAVE HERETO SIGN MY NAME AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS TO BE AFFIXED ON THIS DAY, THE 12TH OF MAY, 2026.

SIGNED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF CANVASSING AUTHORITY, STEVE MASON.

CONGRATULATIONS.

SO, UH, NOW WE HAVE THIS MADAM SECRETARY TO OFFICIALLY SWEAR YOU IN.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I, PATRICIA BUS I, PATRICIA BAAR, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY OF CITY COUNCIL PLACED TO OF CITY COUNCIL.

PLACE FOR THE CITY OF CEDAR, TEXAS, FOR THE CITY OF CEDAR, TEXAS.

AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, THE BEST OF MY AUTHORITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND CONSTITUTION LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, UNITED STATES STATES.

HERE UNTIL SIGN MY NAME AND CAUSE THE SEAL OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL TO BE AFFIXED ON THIS DAY, MAY, 2026, SIGNED BY THE PRESIDING OFFICER OF CANVASSING AUTHORITY.

NOW IF I READ THIS, THAT MEANS YOU'RE OFFICIAL.

SO YOU STILL GOOD WITH THAT? ALRIGHT, I WANNA MAKE SURE.

CERTIFICATE OF ELECTION IN THE NAME AND BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, THIS IS TO CERTIFIED THAT A GENERAL ELECTION HELD ON SATURDAY, MAY 2ND, 2026.

MIRANDA INE WAS DULY ELECTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, PLACED SIX IN WITNESS WHEREOF.

I HAVE

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STEVE MAY, CONGRATULATIONS.

NO , PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.

I'M MIRANDA DOSING.

I'M MIRANDA OZZIE.

DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR, DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES THAT I'LL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF CITY COUNCIL.

PLACED SIX OF CITY COUNCIL, PLACED SIX, THE CITY OF CEDAR, TEXAS, FOR THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, AND HOLD TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY AND WILL TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT, AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, AND OF THIS STATE.

SO HELP ME, GOD, AND OF THIS STATE.

SO, UH, COUNCIL INE, YOU MAY RETURN TO THE DIOCESE AND, UM, PATRICIA BUS HART, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY A COUNCIL MEMBER, SO PLEASE GO AND CATCH A SEAT.

UH, WE DO HAVE ONE MORE THING ON, ON THE, UM, ELECTION MATTERS.

NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS CITIZENS FORM AND PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THIS GIVES OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY, FOR ANY CITIZEN TO TALK ABOUT WHATEVER THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT.

ITEMS THAT IS NOT ON THE AGENDA, COUNCIL CANNOT DELIBERATE OR DISCUSS.

UM, SO I DO HAVE A COUPLE, UM, CITIZENS FORUMS HERE.

OH, DID I SKIP ANYTHING? OH, OH, SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

[c. Consider electing a Mayor Pro Tem. ]

UH, CONSIDER ELECTING A MAYOR, PRO TEM, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER ALLEN SIMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, UH, PROPOSE THAT WE ELECT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER CURRENT MAYOR PRO TEM, UH, GREGORY GLOVER AS MAYOR PRO TEM.

UM, I'M SORRY, UM, WHAT? DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? I'M SORRY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I, I, I MESSED UP.

THAT'S MY FAULT.

UM, I SECOND YOU SECOND THAT I MESSED UP.

OR ? .

ALRIGHT, I'M SORRY.

WHAT I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO ARE, ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS ALRIGHT, FOR A MAYOR PRO TEM.

SO ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS? I WOULD NOMINATE MAYOR PRO TEM GREGORY GLOVER.

WE DO HAVE ONE NOMINATION.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS ON THE FLOOR? ARE THERE ANY NOMINATIONS ON THE FLOOR? ALL RIGHT.

NOT HEARING NONE.

MY APOLOGIES.

MR. UH, COUNCILMAN SEAS, THE FLOOR IS NOW OPEN.

I WOULD LIKE THE MO THE MOTION THAT WE ELECT MAYOR PRO TIMM GREGORY GLOVER AS MAYOR PRO TIMM.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE SECOND? I'LL SECOND.

, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT, ALL, PLEASE RAISE RIGHT HAND.

MOTION UNANIMOUS.

LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU AGAIN.

UM, SO BEFORE I GO TO CITIZENS FORUM, UM, PATTY BUS HART, YOU RAN , YOU RAN, UH, IN CAMPAIGN AND NOW YOU ARE HERE, UH, IN PLACE NUMBER TWO.

UH, COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FOR YOU BEFORE WE CONTINUE, SINCE I'M ALREADY OKAY, MY MIC IS OPEN.

ON BOARD FOR SEVERAL REASONS.

I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY CONGRATULATIONS TO MS. SHART.

I'VE KNOWN HER FOR A WHILE, HAD THE PRIVILEGE DURING ANOTHER LIFE OF HIRING HER, WORKING WITH HER.

I'M JUST ABSOLUTELY THRILLED THAT SHE'S ON THE COUNCIL.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL? COUNCILWOMAN AZI? I'LL JUST, UH, I'LL ECHO WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN SIMS HAS SAID.

UM, BUT I AM EXTREMELY HAPPY TO HAVE, UH, PATTY

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UM, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE A BIT OF GIRL POWER.

UM, AND, UH, SO I THINK THAT THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF THE MAIN THING.

BUT I'VE WORKED WITH HER, UM, SEVERAL PROJECT PROJECTS OVER THE YEARS, AND I KNOW HER, UH, TO BE A, A THOUGHTFUL, BALANCED, SENSITIVE, UH, PERSON THAT REALLY TAKES HER TIME.

UM, AND SHE IS SLOW TO SPEAK, BUT WHEN SHE DOES, I FEEL THAT IT'S POWERFUL.

AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT BEING, UM, ADDED TO OUR COUNCIL PRO.

TIM GLOVER? YES.

CONGRATULATIONS, COUNCILWOMAN.

UM, HE'S BEEN GONE THREE MINUTES, BUT I JUST WANT TO USE ONE THING THAT DANIEL HAYDEN HAS SAID, OUR CITY OF CEDAR HILL RECOGNIZES AND VOTES FOR THE PERSON THAT THEY BELIEVE IS BEST FOR OUR CITY, AND THEY'VE DONE SO AGAIN.

ALRIGHT, COUNCILMAN MALONE.

I JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATULATIONS.

UM, I'VE HEARD A LOT ABOUT YOU.

I THINK WE PROBABLY, MAYBE THE BOND COMMITTEE OR SOMETHING 2017, WE PROBABLY WEREN'T ON THE SAME BOARD.

SO DEFINITELY YOUR HISTORY HAS, UH, SPOKEN FOR ITSELF.

DEFINITELY.

UM, GLAD TO HAVE YOU UP HERE.

SO I CAN ACTUALLY PULL A LITTLE BIT FROM YOU AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU FOR RUNNING ALL.

COUNCILOR MCCURDY.

CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AGAIN OFFICIALLY.

I I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY, CONGRATULATIONS, PATTY.

HOW, HOW LONG AGO WAS IT THAT YOU RETIRED FROM THE CITY? SIX YEARS.

SIX YEARS AGO.

AND IN THAT TIME, UM, I HAVE SEEN YOU VOLUNTEER AND SERVE THE CITY IN, IN MULTIPLE ASPECTS.

TRUE, UH, WITH MULTIPLE ORGANIZATIONS.

THAT'S TRUE.

UH, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AT YOUR, AT YOUR OWN EXPENSE, YOU KNOW, YOUR OWN TIME.

UM, AND I, I THINK THE, UH, THE VOTERS MADE A WISE DECISION, UM, HONORED TO BE SERVING WITH YOU AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

THANK YOU, SIR.

AND COUNCILWOMAN BOHART, THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, SERVING AGAIN IN THIS CAPACITY.

AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING ALONGSIDE YOU.

AND MAYBE GOING GOLFING TOGETHER.

ABSOLUTELY.

SHE GOT A GOLF GAME.

YEAH, SHE GOT A GOLF GAME, Y'ALL.

ON THE AGENDA IS CITIZENS FORUM.

UM, ALRIGHT.

UM, MADAM CITY MANAGER, WE WE'RE BACK ON TRACK.

MADAM SECRETARY.

OKAY, WELL GOOD.

WELL WELCOME.

WELCOME TO THE TEAM, UH, COUNCILWOMAN.

NEXT ITEM

[6. Citizens Forum/Public Comments. Citizens wishing to speak during this time should submit a Speaker Request Form to the City Secretary before the meeting begins. Public comments may also be submitted online at: cedarhilltx.com/publiccomment. All public comments submitted online by 3pm on City Council meeting dates will be distributed to the City Council and entered into record. ]

AS I MENTIONED, THIS GIVES OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK ABOUT WHATEVER TOPIC THEY WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS.

UM, I'D LIKE TO YOU BRING UP A, UH, A, A GOOD FRIEND, ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, THE FORMER MAYOR OF DUNCANVILLE, CLIFF BOYD.

PLEASE COME ON UP.

HIS TOPIC IS DALLAS COLLEGE.

AMEN.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

UH, I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL.

I'VE SET FOR Y'ALL SITTING .

IT IS A PRIVILEGE AND AN HONOR TO DO THAT.

UH, OUR CITIZENS DON'T THANK YOU ENOUGH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU DO AND HOW HARD IT IS TO, I AM SERVING NOW AS A TRUSTEE AT DALLAS COLLEGE AND HAVE FOR SIX YEARS.

I REPRESENT CEDAR HILL, DUNCANVILLE, GRAND PRAIRIE, AND PART OF IRVING.

BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS TRYING TO BRING MORE PERSONALITY OF DALLAS COLLEGE INTO THE COMMUNITY ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS.

MOST PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND AS THIS YOUNG MAN STOOD UP HERE TODAY AND GOT A SCHOLARSHIP, THERE'S NOT A CHILD IN OR AN ADULT IN DALLAS COUNTY THAT CAN'T GO TO COLLEGE.

WE HAVE PLENTY OF SCHOLARSHIPS, PLENTY OF MONEY TO OFFER THOSE TO THE STUDENTS.

AND WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT.

WE NOW HAVE FOUR BA PROGRAMS. WE HAVE THE LARGEST TEACHING UNIVERSITY OR COLLEGE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

WE HAVE 1200 STUDENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE TEACHERS IN TWO YEARS.

WE HAVE FOUR, FOUR YEAR PROGRAMS. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT THEY THINK IT'S A TWO YEAR PROGRAM.

WE HAVE 130,000 STUDENTS.

WE HAVE 30,000 OF THOSE ARE DUAL CREDIT JUNIORS AND SENIORS IN YOUR HIGH SCHOOL.

IT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITIES THAT THE LORD HAS EVER ALLOWED ME TO TOUCH.

I SERVED MY YEARS AS CHAIRMAN OF PARKLAND HOSPITAL.

NOT EVERYBODY GETS SICK, BUT EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE EDUCATION.

IT'S EITHER IT'S A CERTIFICATE OR WHETHER IT'S A DEGREE, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH ONE OF THE FINEST COLLEGES IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

AND WE ARE WORLD 'CAUSE WE HAVE INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS AS WELL.

BUT I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK YOU TO HELP PROMOTE TO YOUR CITIZENRY, HOWEVER YOU

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BEST DO THAT.

AND I'M GONNA LEAVE A NUMBER OF THE FLYERS THAT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH.

BUT ON THE MAY THE 20TH OR MAY THE 30TH, FROM 10 TO TWO AT THE SHOPS OF REDBIRD, WE WILL BE HAVING A OPEN HOUSE.

WE WILL HAVE EVERY SCHOOL OF REPRESENTED THERE.

WE'LL HAVE OUR FINANCE OFFICE PEOPLE THERE, A REGISTRAR THERE IN THE, IN THE UH, QR CODE.

IF YOU CLICK THAT, IT TELLS YOU WHAT TO BRING.

AND WE'LL REGISTER YOU FOR CLASS THAT DAY.

WE, WE ARE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE WANT TO, WE REALLY WANT TO HELP WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE UPSKILLED, WHO WANT A BETTER JOB, WANT TO WANT TO EARN A LIVING WAGE.

AND THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO CHANGE LIVES.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL CAN DO.

GETTING THE WORD OUT, AS Y'ALL KNOW, IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT MESSAGES IN THE WORLD.

AND, AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE PUTTING THESE AT OUR OUTREACH MINISTRIES 'CAUSE THOSE PEOPLE ARE COMING THERE FOR HELP BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A JOB.

THAT'S A BAD WORD.

PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE WORD AND, UH, AND I, I'LL BE ABLE TO HELP ANYBODY AT ANY TIME IF YOU JUST GIMME A CALL.

THANK YOU SIR.

ANYBODY GOT ANY QUESTIONS? NO, SIR.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

UM, DO I HAVE, UM, PAM HAMPTON? IS SHE HERE? OKAY, UH, COUNSEL, I THINK SHE SENT AN EMAIL, UM, TO YOU.

SO JUST PLEASE CHECK YOUR EMAIL, UH, ABOUT THAT AND DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER CITIZENS FORMS? OKAY, PERFECT.

UH, THAT CONCLUDES OUR, OUR PORTION OF THE CITIZENS FORM.

UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA

[a. Case No. PD-750-2025 – Conduct a public hearing and consider an application for a change in zoning from Local Retail (LR) District to a Planned Development (PD) District for Mini-Warehouse/Self Storage on a property generally located on the south side of E. Wintergreen Road, approximately 160 feet to the east of the intersection of Elise Street and E. Wintergreen Road with the address being 1038 E. Wintergreen Road. Applicant: Aaron Rowley, MV Investments, Representative: Jonathan R. McNamara, Colliers Engineering & Design, Property Owner: William Ingle and Robin Ingle.]

IS PUBLIC HEARING.

CASE NUMBER PD 7 5 0 2025 CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDERED APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT PD DISTRICT FOR MINI WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE ON A PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WINTERGREEN ROAD.

APPROXIMATE 160 FEET TO THE EAST OF INTERSECTION OF ELISE STREET AND EAST WINTERGREEN ROAD WITH THE ADDRESS BEING 10 38 EAST WINTERGREEN ROAD.

APPLICANT.

AARON ROWLEY, MOV INVESTMENT REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN R MCNAMARA, COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN PROPERTY OWNER WILLIAM ENGLE AND ROBIN ENGLE.

HOW YOU DOING? UM, UM, PLANNING DIRECTOR? YES.

HOW YOU DOING? IT'S BEEN A WHILE.

I'M DOING WELL.

BUT GENERALLY MANY WAREHOUSE OF STORAGE IS ONLY PERMITTED WITH AN APPROVED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT IN LOCAL RETAIL, COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL PARK AND INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

TONIGHT'S ZONING CASE IS PD 7 5 0 20 25.

THE SITE IS GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF EAST WINTERGREEN ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 160 FEET TO THE EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF THE EAST STREET IN EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD.

THE ADDRESS BEING 10 38 EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD.

THE MAP AT THE TOP SHOWS THE PROPERTY IN PURPLE, UH, SIGNIFYING WHERE IT'S LOCATED WITHIN THE CITY.

AND THEN THE MAP AT THE BOTTOM SHOWS THE SUBJECT SITE IS OUTLINED IN THE YELLOW.

THE REQUEST IS CON IS TO CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT TO ALLOW MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE.

THESE SITE IMAGES TAKEN FROM GOOGLE EARTH SHOWED THE SUBJECT SITE A VIEW FROM THE SOUTH AS WELL AS THE VIEW FROM THE NORTH.

SO IN SUMMARY, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS 2.68 ACRES AND IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.

AND THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE IS ONLY PERMITTED WITH A CUP.

LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT IS INTENDED TO PROVIDE AREAS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND LOCAL SHOPPING FACILITIES FOR RETAIL SALES OF GOODS AND SERVICES, INCLUDING CONVENIENCE STORES, SHOPPING CENTERS, AND REGIONAL MALLS SERVING THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY, BUT DOES NOT INCLUDE WHOLESALING OR WAREHOUSING.

THIS COMES FROM OUR ZONING ORDINANCE.

THE APPLICANT REQUESTS TO REZONE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO A PD DISTRICT WITH LR AS THE BASE ZONING TO ALLOW MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WITHOUT A CUP.

THE PROPOSED PD WOULD ESTABLISH MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE AS THE ONLY PERMITTED USE ON THE PROPERTY, AND IT WOULD INCLUDE A PD CONCEPT PLAN THAT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE YOU FOR REVIEW.

THE LAYOUT CONSISTS OF ONE THREE STORY BUILDING 37,733 SQUARE FEET PER FLOOR WITH A TOTAL OF 113,200 SQUARE FEET WITHIN THE BUILDING.

810 UNITS ARE PROPOSED.

ALL INDOOR CLIMATE CONTROL STORAGE, ANY OUTDOOR STORAGE WOULD BE PROHIBITED.

THIS SHOWS THE EXISTING ZONING IN THE AREA, WHICH I HAVE DESCRIBED IN, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IN MORE DETAIL.

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THE USE OF A PD WOULD ALLOW THE CITY TO EVALUATE THE DEVELOPMENT AND DESIGN CONSIDERATIONS BEYOND THE STANDARD CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT COULD BE ASSURED WITH THE STANDARD ZONING DISTRICT.

SO THE NEXT SERIES OF SLIDES WILL COMPARE THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT, THE CURRENT ZONING WITH THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS AS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT.

AND AGAIN, EXCUSE ME AGAIN, THE LOCAL RETAIL ZONING WOULD BE THE BASE FOR THE PD.

I WILL ONLY HIGHLIGHT THE DEVIATIONS FROM LOCAL RETAIL AND THOSE WILL BE HIGHLIGHTED IN THE YELLOW.

THE LAND USES AS PERMITTED IN LOCAL RETAIL WOULD REQUIRE A LOT OF USES, A RANGE OF USES AS IDENTIFIED IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE AND IT WOULD IDENTIFY THE MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE AS A USE REQUIRED BY CUP.

THE PD PROPOSES THAT THE ONLY USE WOULD BE THE MINI WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE AND THAT NO CUP WOULD BE REQUIRED.

ALL OUTDOOR STORAGE WOULD BE PROHIBITED IN THE LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT.

THE CURRENT ZONING, THERE IS NO MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE.

THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT COULD EXTEND TO SIX STORIES AND BUILDING MATERIALS WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE REGULATED.

AS A PART OF WHAT'S REQUIRED BY THE T TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE FOR THE PD, THE APPLICANT WOULD PRO WOULD PROPOSE A MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE OF 34%, UH, AFTER THE 20 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY DEDICATION AND A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THREE STORIES.

IN ADDITION, 100% OF ALL WALL SERVICES EXCLUDING THE WINDOWS, THE DOORS, CANOPIES AND SUCH SHALL BE FINISHED WITH AT LEAST ONE PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIAL.

A MINIMUM OF TWO PRIMARY BUILDING MATERIALS SHALL BE UTILIZED ON EACH BUILDING ELEVATION.

AND TWO DISTINCTIVE TYPES OF BRICK OR STONE MATERIALS WILL BE UTILIZED.

UM, STAFF OFFERS AN ALTERNATIVE IF APPROVED.

STAFF RECOMMENDS TWO STORIES AS A MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT AND IT ALSO, UH, WE ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE MAINTAINING OF THE 80 83 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK FROM THE RESIDENTIAL ZONED PROPERTY BE MAINTAINED.

THAT IS ALSO WHAT IS SHOWN IN THE CONCEPT BY THE APPLICANT.

FOR LOCAL RETAIL, THE MINIMUM OFF STREET PARKING WOULD BE ONE PARKING SPACE PER 20 STORAGE UNITS.

THE PROPOSED PD IS ONE PARKING SPACE FOR EACH, FOR EVERY 26 STORAGE UNITS, WHICH WOULD BE A REDUCTION.

THE SCREENING REQUIREMENTS IN LOCAL RETAIL, IT CURRENTLY REQUIRES SIX TO EIGHT FEET TALL W WALL CONSTRUCTED OF MASONRY MATERIALS SIMILAR TO THE MASONRY ON THE MAIN BUILDING.

THE PD PROPOSAL INCLUDES A SCREENING BUFFER, WHICH CONSISTS OF PRESERVING THE EXISTING TREE LINE ALONG THE WEST PROPERTY LINE AND LANDSCAPING ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE ACCESS DRIVE STAFF OFFERS AN ALTERNATIVE IF APPROVED OF ADDITIONAL STANDARDS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE, AGAIN, THE 83 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK AND THE PRESERVATION OF THE EXISTING SCREENING TREES WITH THE ADDITION OF LARGE EVERGREEN SPECIES ALONG THAT BUILDING SETBACK.

WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD ALLOW TO HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING THAT WOULD ENSURE SCREENING THROUGHOUT ALL SEASONS.

FOR LOCAL RETAIL, IT IS SILENT ON ALL OF THESE CATEGORIES.

THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS BY THE APPLICANT INCLUDES A PERIMETER FENCING ALONG THE SOUTHEAST AND NORTH PROPERTY LINES CONSISTING OF THE FOLLOWING ELEMENTS.

A SIX FOOT METAL PICKET FENCE, WHICH IS TO BE PLACED WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE PROPERTY AND THE, AND THE RETENTION OF THE EXISTING WOODEN FENCE AND EXISTING WROUGHT IRON FENCE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WITH ALSO WITH THE ADDRESS 10 38 EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD.

FOR THE GATE.

THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE A GATED ENTRY AND IT WOULD HAVE, UH, POINTS OF INTEREST IN, UH, ENTRANCE FOR FIRE.

UM, AND THAT SHOULD BE, UH, AN EXISTING, UH, POINTS OF INTEREST WOULD INCLUDE A FIRE GATE FOR THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORAGE UNITS.

AGAIN, 810 UNITS IS PROPOSED AND THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM FOR WINDOWS FACING THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.

THERE WOULD BE NO ACTIVE WINDOWS ALLOWED ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR ALONG THE WEST BUILDING ELEVATION, WHICH IS ADJACENT TO THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

AND SO I'LL WALK THROUGH THE CONCEPT PLAN AS SHOWN HERE.

AGAIN, THE SITE IS 2.68 ACRES.

IT IS PROPOSED TO BE MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE AS THE ONLY USE.

THIS WOULD BE WITHIN ONE BUILDING AND BE THREE STORES IN HEIGHT.

THE INDOOR CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE FACILITY WOULD BE ALL INTERNAL WITH NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OR OUTSIDE STORAGE.

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AGAIN, A TOTAL NUMBER OF UNITS OF 810 INGRESS AND EGRESS WOULD BE ALONG EAST WINTERGREEN ROAD.

THE REQUIRED PARKING WOULD BE 41 PARKING SPACES.

THE APPLICANT PROPOSES 31, WHICH WOULD BE A 25% REDUCTION.

THE LOADING AREA SHOWN BY THE BLUE AREA WOULD BE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING AND THE PERIMETER FENCING WOULD RETAIN THE EXISTING FENCING AND INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FENCING WHERE THERE CURRENTLY IS NONE, THE PROPOSED DETENTION PONDS WOULD MANAGE RUNOFF FOR THE SITE ITSELF.

AND THE PROPOSED SCREENING BUFFER BETWEEN THE SITE AND THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION IN LIEU OF A MASONRY WALL WOULD CONCLUDE WITH THE EXISTING MATURE TREES AND ALSO LANDSCAPING ALONG THE DRIVEWAY.

AND THIS JUST SHOWS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SO FOR THE BUILDING ELEVATIONS TO THE NORTH, WE HAVE THE ELEVATION FACING EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD AT THE TOP, AND THEN THE WEST SIDE ELEVATION FACING THE RESIDENTIAL SUB SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST.

AND AGAIN, ANY WINDOWS THAT ARE ABOVE ONE A ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR WOULD NOT BE OPERATIONAL.

AGAIN, THE BUILDING HEIGHT, IT'S PROPOSED AT THREE STORES WITH 100% MASONRY AS SHOWN ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION AND THE EAST ELEVATION FACING THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES.

SO THE FOLLOWING FACTORS WILL BE CONSIDERED IN RENDERING A DECISION ON A ZONING CHANGE APPLICATION.

THESE ARE OUR ZONING FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION.

NUMBER ONE, WHETHER THE USAGE PERMITTED BY THE PROPOSED CHANGE WILL BE APPROPRIATE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA CONCERNED AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP TO THE GENERAL AREA OF THE CITY AS A WHOLE.

HERE WE HAVE A LISTING OF THE EXISTING LAND USES STAFF FINDINGS.

THE, THE PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST AND SOUTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY ARE DEVELOPED WITH A MIX OF COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS OFFICE, RESTAURANT, HOTEL, AND PERSONAL SERVICES, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO HOTEL BUILDINGS.

ONE, A THREE STORY BUILDING THAT IS 127 FEET FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND THE OTHER A TWO STORY BUILDING.

ALL OTHER COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES ARE ONE STORY IN HEIGHT.

ALL OTHER BUILDINGS, THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST WITH BACKYARDS ADJACENT TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, ARE DEVELOPED WITH TWO STORY AND ONE STORY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.

THE PROPOSED MINI WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WOULD INTRODUCE A MORE INTENSE USE THAT DEVIATES FROM THE RETAIL PERSONAL SERVICE, HOSPITALITY, AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ESTABLISHED IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA.

THE SCALE OF THE PROPOSED MINI WAREHOUSE.

SELF STORAGE IS AN IMPORTANT FACTOR TO CONSIDER WHEN EVALUATING THE APPROPRIATENESS OF SAID PROJECT.

CONSIDERING THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND DEVELOPMENT TYPE ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED TO REDUCE THE BUILDING HEIGHT OF THE MINI WAREHOUSE SELF-STORAGE.

FROM THREE STORIES TO TWO STORIES, AGAIN, IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THERE ARE NO ACTIVE WINDOWS ALONG THAT WEST ELEVATION.

FACTOR.

NUMBER TWO, WHETHER THE PROPOSED CHANGE IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH ANY EXISTING OR PROPOSED PLANS FOR PROVIDING PUBLIC SCHOOLS, STREETS, WATER SUPPLY, SANITARY SEWERS, OR OTHER UTILITIES IN THE AREA.

THE WATER, THE WATER MASTER PLAN, SEWER MASTER PLAN, AND THOROUGHFARE PLAN ARE ALL BASED ON THE ANTICIPATED LAND USES.

AS SHOWN ON THE CONSERVATION AND GROWTH MAP OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THERE IS WATER AND SEWER SERVICES ON EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD AND IF THE REZONING IS APPROVED, PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING PLANS SHOWING THE CONNECTIONS FOR UTILITIES MUST BE PROVIDED WITH THE PD SITE PLAN AND PLANNING SUBMITTALS.

THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS FRONTAGE ALONG EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD.

THE ESTIMATED TRIPS PER DAY IS APPROXIMATELY 283 TRIPS DUE TO THE NATURE OF THE PROPOSED USE IN THE LAYOUT OF, OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT SHOWING AN ACCESS POINT FROM EAST WINTER GREEN ROAD.

A TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS IS NOT REQUIRED PER THE CITY ENGINEER.

FACTOR NUMBER THREE, THE AMOUNT OF VACANT LAND CURRENTLY CLASSIFIED FOR SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT IN THE VICINITY AND ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY IN ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES, WHICH MAY MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF SUCH VACANT LAND UNAVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT.

AS I NOTED, CITYWIDE MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WOULD BE PERMITTED WITH A CUP IN THE L-R-C-I-P AND I DISTRICTS.

FOR THE AREA ZONE LOCAL RETAIL OR LR THAT ARE LOCATED AT MA MAJOR INTERSECTIONS IN THE ALONG MAJOR CORRIDORS, HIGHWAY 67 AND BELTLINE, FOR EXAMPLE.

THERE ARE VERY FEW AREAS, ZONE SEA DISTRICT.

THE PROPERTY'S LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF NORTH JOE WILSON ROAD AND HIGHWAY 67 MAKE UP THE MOST SIGNIFICANT SEA ZONE AREA.

FINALLY, MOST OF THE AREAS ZONED IP AND I DISTRICTS ARE LOCATED ALONG THE SOUTHERN SEGMENT OR THE OPPOSITE END OF HIGHWAY 67.

THERE ARE VACANT PROPERTIES IN THE DISTRICTS

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MENTIONED ABOVE.

SOME MAY HAVE ENOUGH SURFACE AREA TO POSSIBLY ACCOMMODATE A DEVELOPMENT SUCH AS THE ONE PROPOSED.

HOWEVER, IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES WHICH MAKE A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF SUCH VACANT LAND UNAVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE UNKNOWN AT THIS TIME.

NUMBER FOUR, THE RECENT RATE AT WHICH LAND IS BEING DEVELOPED IN THE SAME ZONING CLASSIFICATION AS THE REQUEST, PARTICULARLY IN THE VICINITY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGE.

AT THIS TIME, THIS IS THE ONLY ACTIVE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION TO REZONE TO A PD DISTRICT WITH LOCAL RETAIL AS THE BASE ZONING TO ALLOW THIS USE WITHOUT A CUP.

HOW OTHER DESIGNATED, HOW OTHER AREAS DESIGNATED FOR SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT WILL BE OR UNLIKELY TO BE AFFECTED IF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT OR PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS APPROVED.

ZONING FACTOR NUMBER FIVE, THE CLOSEST PROPERTY DESIGNATED FROM DEVELOPMENT AS MANY WAREHOUSE OF STORAGE WITHIN THE CITY IS APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE SOUTH OF THE, OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.

THIS IS AT, UM, PLEASANT RUN IN 67.

THAT IS DEVELOPED AS A DRIVE UP MINI WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE AND IT WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1978.

IF APPROVED.

IT IS UNCLEAR HOW LIKELY THE PROPOSED MINI WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WOULD AFFECT THIS AND OTHER EXISTING FACILITIES WITHIN THE CITY.

AND FACTOR NUMBER SIX, ANY OTHER FACTORS WHICH WILL SUBSTANTIALLY AFFECT THE PUBLIC HEALTH, SAFETY, MORALS, OR GENERAL WELFARE.

OTHER FACTORS ARE UNKNOWN.

SO ONE THING WE LOOK AT IS CONSISTENCY WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

AND THIS AREA IS DESIGNATED AS SUBURBAN NON-RESIDENTIAL CENTER.

THESE ARE CENTERS THAT ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED NEAR HIGH VOLUME ROLL ROADS AND KEY INTERSECTIONS AND ARE DESIGNATED TO BE ACCESSIBLE PRIMARILY BY AUTOMOBILE WITH LIMITED CONSIDERATION FOR WALKABILITY.

THESE CENTERS INCLUDE MOSTLY EXISTING MULTI-TENANT STRIP CENTERS AND BIG BOX STORES LOCATED NEAR HIGH VOLUME ROADWAYS.

THE VISION AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS OF A TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTINUES THE SHOPPING CENTER MULTI-TENANT PATTERN AND ARRAY OF SERVICES FOR THE COMMUNITY, RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL ALREADY ESTABLISHED WITH THE ADJACENT MULTI-TENANT STRIP CENTER KNOWN AS THE RANCH.

BY DESIGNATING THE SUBJECT PROPERTY A SUBURBAN NON-RESIDENTIAL CENTER, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND THE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN BETWEEN NORTH HIGHWAY 67 AND THE RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION TO THE WEST.

DEVELOPING THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES, MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY.

THE PROPOSED MANY WAREHOUSE SELF STORAGE WOULD INTRODUCE A MORE INTENSE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IN LAND USE AND IN SCALE AND WOULD NOT ADVANCE THE VISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

THE APPLICANT STATED THAT THEY MET WITH RESIDENTS OF WINTER GREEN ESTATES AND THE SINGLE FAMILY SUBDIVISION LOCATED TO THE IMMEDIATE WEST OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY PER THE APPLICANT.

FEEDBACK FROM THE RESIDENTS INCLUDED THE FOLLOWING REQUESTS, A LARGE SETBACK FROM THE SHARED PROPERTY LINE, WHICH IS THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, THE PRESERVATION OF AS MANY EXISTING MATURE TREES AS POSSIBLE, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE SHARED PROPERTY LINE VIA MINIMAL DISTURBANCE AND PRESERVATION OF EXISTING SCREENING, THE INCLUSION OF A GATED ENTRY TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY TO ELIMINATE OVERFLOW PARKING FROM THE OTHER COMMERCIAL SITES AND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC.

THE PROHIBITION OF CERTAIN USES THAT ARE ALLOWED UNDER CURRENT ZONING SUCH AS PAWN SHOPS, DRIVE THROUGH RESTAURANTS AND ANIMAL KENNELS, WHICH WOULD BE ALLOWED UNDER THE CURRENT LOCAL RETAIL.

THE RESTRICTION OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT TO THREE STORIES WITH NO PUBLIC PERSONAL VIEW OF ACTUAL RENTED UNITS ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR FACING THE HOUSES, A COMMITMENT TO CERTAIN MINIMUM FACADE DESIGN AND MASONRY STANDARDS, AND THE PRESERVATION OF EXISTING TREES AND FENCING ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY BOUNDARY.

IN LIEU OF CONSTRUCTING A MASONRY WALL TO MINIMIZE CONSTRUCTION DISTURBANCE PER TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE.

WE NOTIFIED VIA THE NEWSPAPER AND THE TEXAS RAMBLER, UH, THE RAMBLER TEXAS MEDIA ON SATURDAY APRIL 4TH, 2020 6, 25.

PROPERTY OWNERS WERE NOTIFIED WITHIN 200 FEET.

IN ADDITION, WE PROVIDED A COURTESY NOTICE TO HOMEOWNERS IN THE WINTER HAVEN ESTATES NEIGHBORHOOD AND AS OF 5:00 PM TODAY, WE RECEIVE ZERO LETTERS OF SUPPORT AND ONE LETTER OF OPPOSITION.

STAFF RECOMMEND STAFF RECOMMENDS DENIAL OF THE REQUEST BASED ON THE ZONING CHANGE FACTORS FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE 2022 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION IF APPROVED.

THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE PROVIDED FOR CONSIDERATION RETENTION OF THE MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT AT TWO STORIES A MINIMUM OF 83, BUILDING SETBACK OF UH, 83 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK

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MEASURED FROM THE WEST PROPERTY LINE TO THE NEAREST ELEMENT OF THE BUILDING.

AND ADDITIONAL SCREENING TREES OF LARGE EVERGREEN SPECIES, UH, PROPOSED WITHIN THAT BUILDING.

SETBACK PLAN COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS.

THEY REMOVED THE BUILDING HEIGHT REQUIREMENT BUT RETAINED THE MINIMUM 8 83 FOOT BUILDING SETBACK AND THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING TREES OF LARGE EVERGREEN SPECIES.

WITH THAT, I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR SELF.

UM, I GUESS BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS, I THINK WE JUST GO TO PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN WE BRING YOU BACK UP IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION THOUGH.

ALRIGHT, COUNCIL, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D JUST LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND GO INTO THE CLOSED SESSION.

I'M SORRY FOR CLOSED SESSION.

PUBLIC HEARING MY MIND AT, I'M TRYING TO GET REORIENTED, TRYING TO MULTITASK.

ALL RIGHT, WHERE ARE WE? HERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, SO WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR CASE NUMBER PD 7 5 0 2025.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD SEVEN FIVE 2025? PLEASE COME ON UP.

UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

I WAS GONNA CLARIFY, MAYOR.

OH, SURE.

UH, REPRESENT THE APPLICANT.

WE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES OR CAN WE HAVE A PRESENTATION? OH, THAT I'LL BRING YOU UP.

I'LL, I'LL BRING YOU UP FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AFTERWARDS.

I'M SORRY.

I'LL, RIGHT NOW WE JUST INTO THE PUBLIC HEARING.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO PD 7 5 0 2025.

ALRIGHT, I, I ASK ONE MORE TIME.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION? HE'S BRING YEAH, YEAH.

I'LL ALLOW HIM TO DO HIS PRESENTATION AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

YEAH, BILL ENGLE.

UH, I LIVE AT 4 0 9 DANIEL, UH, IT'S ABOUT A HALF A MILE FROM HERE AS THE CROW FLIES.

UH, I'VE BEEN IN CEDAR HILL FOR JUST ABOUT 40, 45 YEARS NOW.

UM, I OWN, I BUILT THE RANCH, THE LITTLE SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, ORIGINALLY, UM, UH, THE PLAN WAS TO DO THREE PHASES AT THE RANCH.

THAT'S PHASE ONE.

THEN WE BUILT PHASE TWO AND WE'RE GONNA BUILD WHERE 10 38 WINTERGREEN IS.

UH, WE WERE GONNA BUILD PHASE THREE.

ORIGINALLY THE CONCEPT WAS ALL NICE LITTLE SMALL RETAIL SHOPS THAT WE THOUGHT WOULD BENEFIT OUR CITY.

WE'VE, WE'VE ALWAYS DONE THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE GONNA BE GOOD FOR CEDAR HILL.

WE'D BE HERE A LONG TIME AND, AND, AND WE LOVE THE CITY AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT GROW.

UM, WE PUT OUR GALLERY OUT THERE AND STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT THE OTHER RETAIL DIDN'T SEEM TO WORK.

SO PHASE THREE, WHICH WAS 10 38 IS LIKE A LITTLE ISLAND OUT THERE.

IT'S TWO POINT, UH, SEVEN ACRES THAT'S KIND OF SURROUNDED AND, AND NOTHING CAN IS GOING IN THERE.

IF RETAIL WOULD'VE WORKED, I WOULD'VE BUILT RETAIL BACK THERE, BUT IT SIMPLY WILL NOT.

I KNOW THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN SAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN IDEAL LOCATION.

UH, IN ALL HONESTY, A PERSON WOULD BE MAD AT THEIR MONEY TO GO OUT THERE AND TRY TO, UH, PUT A RETAIL, UH, CENTER ON THAT 2.78 ACRES.

YOU COULDN'T PARK IT AND IT IS JUST A BAD LOCATION.

AND LOOKING AT DIFFERENT AREAS TO, OR DIFFERENT THINGS TO PUT BACK THERE.

UH, I CONSIDERED TWO THINGS.

UH, OFFICE BUILDINGS OR THE, THE CLIMATE CONTROLLED STORAGE, UH, SIX FOOT OFFICE BUILDING WOULD CAUSE ALL KINDS OF TRAFFIC PROBLEMS ON LITTLE OLD WINTERGREEN.

UM, THIS, THE, THE STORAGE FACILITY SEEMED TO BE A PERFECT SOLUTION FOR US TO UTILIZE THAT LAND TO THE BEST OF ITS THE BEST POSSIBLE USE.

BASING THAT ON THE FACT THAT CEDAR HILL IS GROWING LIKE CRAZY, THERE'S NINE OR 10, UH, RIGHT NOW, UH, STORAGE FACILITIES, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABOUT 90% OCCUPIED.

SO THERE'S A DEFINITE NEED FOR THE BUILDING.

UM, THE THREE STORY ASPECT OF IT, I, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A, A KIND OF A BAD FEELING ABOUT STORAGE FACILITIES.

UH, THEY'RE NOT AESTHETICALLY PRETTY AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THIS BUILDING WOULD BE 600 FEET AWAY FROM HIGHWAY 67, NUMBER ONE AND IT'S BEHIND THE RANCH.

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UM, YEAH.

TIME'S UP , BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THEY HAD THAT.

YES SIR.

THE BEST POSSIBLE USE OF, OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, BUT UH, ANYWAY, I WANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION.

YES SIR.

ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 7 5 0 2025? ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION? FINAL CALL.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 7 5 0 2025? NOT SEE ANYONE APPROACH? I WILL CLOSE THAT PORTION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'LL ASK THE APPLICANT IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

GIVE US YOUR NAME, ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

OH, YOU GOT A REAL PRESENTATION? OKAY.

WE'LL JUST THING ONE WAY.

TOMMY MANN 500 WINSTEAD BUILDING, UH, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS REQUEST TONIGHT.

AND, UH, AM I GONNA HAVE TO DO THE ON THERE'S ANIMATION? SORRY.

SO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS SITE TO YOU TONIGHT.

I WANT TO SAY AT THE OUTSET, WE KNOW THIS USE INVITES SCRUTINY AND WE APPRECIATE THE STAFF RETICENCE.

WE'VE SEEN OTHER FACILITIES COME BEFORE YOU AND GET DENIED AND WE KNOW IT'S GOTTA BE THE RIGHT SITE AND WE THINK THIS THE RIGHT SITE FOR THIS USE.

WE THINK YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION GOT IT RIGHT AND THEY AGREED WITH US.

UH, AND SO WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO EXPLAINING FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE WHY THIS SITE DOES MAKE SENSE FOR THE USE.

AND THIS WHERE WE'RE STARTING HERE IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF IT.

OKAY, SO OBVIOUSLY OUR CELLAR DEVELOPED THE RANCH AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS SITE IS CONFIGURED AND WHAT'S LEFT.

ALL OF THE 67 FRONTAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN BY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ALREADY.

SO NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD MUCH PREFER TO HAVE FRONTAGE ON THE HIGHWAY OR A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

UH, THIS SITE IS THE LAST TO GO.

WHAT'S LEFT IS ODDLY SHAPED.

IT HAS VERY LIMITED SMALL AMOUNT OF FRONTAGE ON WINTERGREEN, WHICH IS JUST A TWO-LANE ROAD THAT'S NOT EVEN CURVED OR GUTTERED.

IT IS NOT WELL POSITIONED FOR VISIBILITY OR ACCESS OR A LOT OF TRAFFIC TO COME IN AND OUT OF IT.

THAT MAKES IT VERY UNAPPEALING TO OFFICE OR RETAIL USERS, UH, OR MORE POSSIBLY EXCITING TYPE COMMERCIAL USES.

THEN WE HAVE THE ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY ADJACENCY IMMEDIATELY TO THE WEST.

SO WHATEVER GOES HERE NEEDS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR NEEDS TO RELATE AND MINIMALLY IMPACT AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND WE THINK THAT THIS USE ACTUALLY STRIKES THE BALANCE AND FIND SOMETHING THAT CAN GO HERE.

THIS IS A REALLY TOUGH SITE.

IF YOU REALLY ASK YOURSELF WHAT'S REALISTICALLY GONNA GO HERE.

UH, IT'S A VERY, VERY SHORT LIST.

SOME OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO HERE THAT OTHER USES MIGHT NOT WISH.

THE GOOGLE EARTH PICTURE WAS NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER WHEN THE TREES HAD LEAVES, BUT THEY NORMALLY HAVE LEAVES.

BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT EXISTING TREE BUFFER BETWEEN US AND THE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO KEEPING AND ENHANCING, UH, TO PROVIDE THAT APPROPRIATE ADJACENCY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS ALSO GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHAT IT'S LIKE BACK THERE.

THIS ISN'T A PLACE WHERE AN OFFICE BUILDING OR A NEW EXCITING SHOPPER RESTAURANT'S GONNA WANT TO GO WITH THIS TYPE OF VISIBILITY AND ACCESS.

HERE'S OUR PLAN.

I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY WE DID A PD.

WHAT I TOLD MY CLIENT AT THE OUTSET WAS, THIS IS GOING NOWHERE UNLESS YOU MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT DOOR AND THEY'VE GOTTA BE SUPPORTIVE AND OKAY WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

AND WE NEED TO USE A PD NOT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PLAY SOME GAME OR BEQ, BUT BECAUSE THAT IS THE MECHANISM THAT EXISTS IN THE ZONING WORLD FOR US TO BE ABLE TO MEMORIALIZE OUR COMMITMENTS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF I JUST DID A CUP, I WOULD LEAVE BEHIND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER USES AND THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE BY GOING WITH A PD.

I CAN SAY, HERE'S MY PLAN, HERE'S MY SETBACK, HERE'S MY BUFFER.

THIS IS THE ONLY USE YOU'RE GONNA GET.

AND THAT'S WHY WE WENT THAT ROUTE BECAUSE WE KNEW IT WOULD GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE RESPONSIVE TO AND COMMIT TO THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN DOES.

UH, SO WE HAVE AN 83 FOOT SETBACK.

WE PRESERVE THAT BUFFER.

IT IS A THREE STORY BUILDING.

AND I WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS WAS AN EXERCISE IN, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WE HAVE TO HAVE A VIABLE PROJECT, BUT WE COULD HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, MAYBE COVERED MORE OF THE SITE, DONE A SHORTER BUILDING.

THIS IS THE BALANCE WE STRUCK IN DISCUSSING WITH DIM THREE STORIES IN THIS LAYOUT IS WHAT WE NEED FOR THIS PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO GO FORWARD.

UH, WE'RE FINE WITH THE ADDITIONAL BUFFERING OTHER ASPECTS OF THE P AND Z RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT THREE STORIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE EXISTING ZONING AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THIS GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHY WE WENT THE PD ROUTE.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY THE EXISTING ZONING THAT ARE

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LESS APPEALING.

OBVIOUSLY WE DO A PD THAT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE THEM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET.

AND THEN IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEMORIALIZE LESS HEIGHT, GREATER SETBACK.

THERE AREN'T MANY OFFICE BUILDINGS THAT ARE GONNA PUT, UH, WINDOWS YOU CAN'T SEE OUT OF IN THEIR UPPER STORIES.

THERE AREN'T MANY OTHER TYPES OF COMMERCIAL USES FOR US.

THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE AND IT HELPS RELATE TO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL TO THE WEST.

UM, WE DID PROVIDE EMAIL CONFIRMATION FROM MY CLIENT WITH THE HOA THAT THEY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST THAT HOPEFULLY MADE IT IN TO YOU ALL.

UH, FOR THIS MEETING, YOU SAID THE, I'M SORRY, YOU SAID THE HOA? YES.

THE HOA TO THE WEST.

SO THAT WAS DURING THE HOA MEETING OR THAT YOU JUST MET WITH THE PRESIDENT? THERE'S AN EMAIL WITH MY CLIENT THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED TO YOU ALL.

SO WE MET WITH THEM BACK IN OCTOBER BEFORE, NO, I'M I APPLICATION.

WAS YOU SAYING THERE WAS AN EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE OR YOU ACTUALLY MET WITH THEM? THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.

MEETINGS HAPPENED AND THEN THEY CONFIRMED VIA EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THE REQUEST.

GOT IT.

TELL ME WHY STORAGE IS GOOD, RIGHT? I MEAN, I WANT TO ACTUALLY HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE OPTIMISTIC SIDE THAN I DO THE PESIC SIDE.

AND SO, SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT SELF STORAGE, ADMITTING WHAT I DID AT THE OUTSET, THAT IT INVITES SCRUTINY AND IS PROBABLY NOT YOUR NUMBER ONE FAVORITE USE IN CEDAR HILL.

UM, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT A BAD NEIGHBOR, RIGHT? THIS FACILITY IS ONLY OPEN FROM NINE TO SIX.

THERE'S NO OUTSIDE STORAGE.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE A UNIT HERE WILL ONLY COME WHEN THE STAFF IS ON SITE.

SECURITY IS IMPORTANT.

LIGHTING CAN BE DIRECTED TOWARD THE GROUND.

TRAFFIC IS VERY, VERY LOW.

IT RELATES PRETTY WELL TO AN ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERMS OF HOW IT FUNCTIONS WITH RELATIVE LOW INTENSITY.

AND THAT WAS APPEALING TO THE NEIGHBORS.

WE'RE FINE COMMITTING TO ENHANCED BUILDING MATERIALS AND TRYING TO BUILD A NICE QUALITY LOOKING BUILDING BACK HERE.

ALL THESE ELEVATIONS AND THINGS YOU'VE SEEN WERE PROPOSED TO MAKE PART OF OUR PD IF YOU ELECT TO APPROVE IT TONIGHT.

AN EXAMPLE OF THE TYPE OF BUILDINGS THAT MY CLIENTS, UH, HAVE BUILT AROUND THE COUNTRY.

A CLIENT IS AN EXPERIENCED DEVELOPER OF THESE FACILITIES.

THEY'VE GOT 25 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

UM, THEY KNOW WHAT MAKES THESE PROJECTS SUCCESSFUL.

THEY KNOW WHERE THERE IS DEMAND FOR THEM.

UH, AND THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THIS AS AN AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF DEMAND.

AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL THESE THINGS HAVE SAID AND WHAT A STORAGE FACILITY ULTIMATELY DOES, IT ENABLES THINGS LIKE EMPTY NESTERS TO DOWNSIZE AND OPEN UP HOMES AND NEIGHBORHOODS FOR LARGE FAMILIES.

UH, IT'S A QUIET, IT'S A RESPECTFUL NEIGHBOR AND IT'S A REALLY, REALLY TOUGH SITE.

SO WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO SAY WE LOVE SELF STORIES.

WE'D LIKE TO SEE IT ALL OVER CEDAR HILL OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

UH, WE THINK THIS SITE WITH THESE FACTS AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE TO GET HERE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT MAKES SENSE.

AND THAT'S WHY THE NEIGHBORS HAVE SENT AN EMAIL SAYING THAT THEY'RE SUPPORTIVE.

AND WE WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE P AND Z.

UH, AND WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THIS PROJECT AND HAVE SOME ECONOMIC IMPACT ON A SITE WHERE IT'S REALLY TOUGH TO FIND SOME, UH, JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF IT AND WHAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED FOR US.

SO CLIENT IS PRESENT AND OBVIOUSLY YOU HEARD FROM OUR SELLER WHO KNOWS THE PROPERTY WAY BETTER THAN WE DO 'CAUSE HE'S OWNED IT FOR A LONG TIME AND DEVELOPED THE RANCH.

SO WE'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BASED ON THAT AND APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

UM, BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU GO, UM, YOU KNOW, I I JUST WANNA MAKE A COMMENT AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE COUNCIL TO, TO PLEASE DELIBERATE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I I ENTER INTO EVERY, UM, EVERY ITEM ON THE COUNCIL WITH AN OPEN MIND.

AND YOU KNOW, TO BE QUITE HONEST, I REALLY DIDN'T LIKE THE PRESENTATION YOU JUST GAVE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE SCRUTINY, HONESTLY.

I LOOK AT EVERY CASE DIFFERENT EVERY SINGLE TIME I DO.

I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNCIL, BUT I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE TO WALK OUTTA HERE TO UNDERSTAND THAT, OKAY, IF YOU'RE GONNA COME TO THIS CITY COUNCIL AND YOU'RE GONNA PUSH A PRODUCT, SELL THE PRODUCT.

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A STIGMA OF THE PRODUCT, RIGHT? YOU GONNA SELL ME COKE, SEND ME COKE.

I DON'T WANNA HEAR ABOUT PEPSI.

SO I JUST WANNA KINDA MAKE SURE I, I'M STILL OPEN-MINDED, RIGHT? BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I COMMUNICATE THAT BEFORE WE GO INTO LIBERATION.

SO I JUST WANT, THAT'S, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

FAIR ENOUGH.

AND I WAS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, DENIAL, I FEEL LIKE IT'S MY JOB TO ADMIT THAT AND TRY TO RESPECTFULLY PRESENT TO YOU WHY WE SURE THINK YOU SHOULD GO THE OTHER, BUT I APOLOGIZE TO THE CAMERA THERE.

AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PNZ MA MADE A RECOMMENDATION.

THEY HAVE A DUTY, YOU KNOW, IT GOT APPROVED AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DIDN'T LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, I, I, I WANT THE COUNCIL TO FOLLOW UP PLANNING AND ZONING.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, HERE IN CEDAR HILL WE'RE SPECIAL.

WE BELIEVE IN WE'RE SPECIAL.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT WAYS HOW WE DO THINGS.

STAFF IS FOLLOWING THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO STAFF GET THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS.

PNZ SAYS, HEY, I THINK THIS IS MIGHT BE SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO WE MAY WANNA LOOK OUTSIDE THAT, BUT I JUST KINDA WANNA JUST COMMUNICATE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA PUSH YOUR PRODUCT,

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SO I JUST WANNA, WANNA JUST GET THAT OUT THE WAY BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

OKAY? YES, SIR.

ALRIGHT, SO, UH, COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO OPEN UP TO QUESTIONS.

COUNCIL MEMBER SIMS. YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION OF STAFF.

IF, IF, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I'M LIKE THE MAYOR.

I DON'T REALLY, I I DON'T, I HAVEN'T COME INTO THIS MEETING WITH A, UH, UH, A PREDISPOSED NEGATIVE OR, YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M OPEN-MINDED ABOUT THE PROJECT.

SO WHAT I AM A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT IT, I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH THE VIABILITY OF RETAIL ON THIS SITE.

THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, I MEAN, IF I HAD MY MONEY AND, AND THIS IS JUST ME, I WOULDN'T PUT RETAIL, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T BUY THIS PROPERTY FOR RETAIL.

'CAUSE I, I DON'T, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T HAVE VERY MUCH VISIBILITY, WHICH RETAIL NEEDS SOME, YOU KNOW, FOOT PA, FOOT TRAFFIC, VISIBILITY.

AND I, I JUST, SO THE STAFF REC RECOMMENDED RETAIL, BUT I, I, I'M TRYING TO SEE WHERE IT, IT, IT, IT WOULD WORK HERE.

AND THAT'S WHAT, TELL ME.

I MEAN, I KNOW YOU RECOMMENDED RETAIL, BUT I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH, WITH THAT CONCEPT.

SO I NEED MORE INFORMATION AS TO WHY YOU THINK RETAIL WOULD WORK ON THIS SITE.

SO I DO WANT TO CLARIFY.

OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR DENIAL IS BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IDENTIFIES THE AREA AS NON SUBURBAN, NON-RESIDENTIAL.

AND SO AS A PART OF THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN CATEGORY, IT CONVEYS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR NOT ONLY RETAIL, BUT ALSO RESTAURANT AND OTHER PERSONAL SERVICES.

SO THAT COULD BE OFFICES, THAT COULD BE MEDICAL, THAT COULD BE SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO OUR FOUNDATION FOR OUR DECISIONS ARE BASED ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN'S, OUR STARTING PLACE.

IN ADDITION, THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE SCALE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE INTENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.

IT IS NOT IN KEEPING WITH THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

SO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS ONE ELEMENT, THE SCALE AND INTENSITY OF THIS DEVELOPMENT IS ANOTHER, AS WELL AS THE CONTINUATION OF THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT THE VISION OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.

SO THOSE WOULD BE THE FACTORS THAT WE WOULD LOOK AT, UM, AND WHAT WE WOULD OFFER AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT PROPERTY.

SO, AS I UNDERSTAND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN MM-HMM .

WHICH I'VE WAS INVOLVED IN SUPPORTING, IT'S A GUIDELINE, NOT, NOT THE BIBLE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION, CUSTOMER SAMS. UM, BEFORE I CONTINUE COUNSEL, I JUST WANNA, UH, MAKE SURE I COMMUNICATE, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS DID PASS THROUGH, UH, PLANNING ZONING.

THEREFORE, THIS DECISION TONIGHT DOES NOT REQUIRE A SUPER MAJORITY.

SO SIMPLE MAJORITY IS GOOD ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO, TO MOVE EITHER DIRECTION, COUNCIL.

UM, AND WE DID HAVE ONE ONLINE OPPOSITION AND ONE, UH, ONLINE, UM, IN SUPPORT.

AND I, YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT IN YOUR PRESENTATION, BUT FOR OUR RECORDS, WE HAD ONE OPPOSITION AND NO SUPPORT.

DO I HAVE ONE SUPPORT? I HAVE ONE SUPPORT.

SO MAYBE SOMETHING CAME IN AFTERWARDS.

ALRIGHT, PERFECT.

UH, COUNCILMAN MCCURDY.

SORRY, I, THERE YOU GO.

IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CUT THAT, CUT THAT OFF.

NOW, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WE, WE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT, AT EVERY PROJECT, KIND OF INDEPENDENTLY OF, OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT AROUND IT, BUT AS, AS IT PERTAINS TO, TO RETAIL, WE HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR, FOR RETAIL.

AND OFTEN THOSE REQUIREMENTS ALSO INCLUDE SHARED PARKING ARRANGEMENTS.

AND I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS ABOUT IS THE UNDER PARKING SITUATION AT THE RANCH.

UM, AND IN FACT, I BELIEVE LIKE EVERY WEEKEND THIS LOT IS FULL OF CARS, UH, PEOPLE ATTENDING EVENTS, YOU KNOW, AT, UH, THE SMOKING JACKET AND, AND MAYBE AT VERACRUZ.

UM, AND, AND IN FACT RECENTLY I SAW CARS PARKED DOWN THE SERVICE ROAD.

UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS PROJECT IS INDEPENDENT OF THE RANCH, BUT THAT IT WAS ANTICIPATED THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL RETAIL ON THIS SITE.

KIND OF IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, CAN, CAN YOU KINDA WALK ME THROUGH HOW, HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE RESOLVE THE PARKING SITUATION AT THE RANCH IF THE FUTURE RETAIL DEVELOPMENT ISN'T GONNA HAPPEN ON THIS SITE? MM-HMM .

UM, AND WHAT WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PARKING ARRANGEMENTS ON THIS SITE WHERE IT TO BE DEVELOPED AS RETAIL? AND WOULD IT, WOULD IT HELP ALLEVIATE THAT SITUATION? I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND THIS.

UM, AND, AND IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE, AT THE ACCESS, UM, THERE'S A CLEARLY A DIRT WORN PATH BETWEEN THE BACK OF THE RANCH AND, AND WINTERGREEN ROAD.

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AND IT'S AN UNPRO.

YES, IT'S AN UNIMPROVED ROAD, BUT I'VE ALSO BEEN OVER THERE FREQUENTLY AND SEEN THE, THE FIRE LANE BLOCKED, UM, AT THE RANCH.

UM, AND IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE, WE ARE CREATING A BOTTLENECK HERE WHERE OUR, OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO, TO THAT RETAIL SITE.

WE'RE REDUCING POTENTIAL PARKING, UM, WHERE WE ALREADY KNOW WE HAVE A PARKING PROBLEM.

AND THIS SITE WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE PART OF THE RANCH DEVELOPMENT.

SO IF YOU COULD HELP ME WRAP MY HEAD AROUND ALL, ALL OF THAT, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.

I WILL DO MY BEST TO RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION.

IF I MISS ANYTHING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

UH, FIRST, THESE ARE TWO INDEPENDENTLY PLANTED PROPERTIES.

AND SO THE PARKING FOR THE RANCH WOULD BE CONTAINED, IDEALLY WITHIN ITS OWN SITE.

AND THE PROPERTY THAT WE'RE UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY WOULD ADDRESS PARKING RELATED TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED.

AND SO STAFF WOULD EVALUATE THAT DEVELOPMENT AND ENSURE THAT THE APPROPRIATE PARKING WAS CONSIDERED AS A PART OF THAT CONCEPT FOR THAT PROPERTY.

UH, THE ABILITY FOR THOSE PROPERTIES TO SHARE PARKING OR TO HAVE ACCESS TO ONE ANOTHER, UH, WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED AS A PART OF A LARGER DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.

UH, SO I'D HAVE TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE PROPOSED AND THEN WHAT TYPES OF ACCESS WOULD BE NEEDED.

UM, THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE IDENTIFYING FOR THE PROPERTY THAT'S NOT UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY, UH, WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED SEPARATELY FROM THIS SITE UNLESS THEY WERE PLOTTED INTO ONE PROPERTY.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE ADDRESSED ALL OF YOUR CONCERNS, BUT ANY DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS ON THE SITE THAT'S UNDER DISCUSSION TODAY, WE WOULD REVIEW THAT PROPERTY AND THAT PROJECT AND ASSESS THE APPROPRIATE PARKING FOR THAT SITE, UH, AS A PART OF THE REVIEW OF THAT PROJECT, AND IT WOULD ENSURE THAT IT HAD PROPER FIRE ACCESS IN ALL THESE OTHER, UH, CONSIDERATIONS.

SO THE, THE RESPONSE IS NOT MY PROBLEM? NO, I THINK THE RESPONSE IS THAT THE PROPERTY THAT, UH, IS OUTSIDE OF THE AREA WE'RE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, IT WOULD BE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT, UM, CONSIDERATION MM-HMM .

AND UNLESS THEY WERE PLOTTED INTO A, A SINGULAR PROPERTY, UH, I WOULD NOT HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR US TO ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS.

I WOULD HAVE TO EVALUATE NO, THEIR CONCERNS SEPARATE AND INDEPENDENT OF THIS PARTICULAR SITE.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, COUNCILWOMAN, , UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, HERE'S WHAT, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HERE'S WHAT WE KNOW, AND THAT IS, I'VE, I'VE, I'VE PROBABLY SAID IT BEFORE, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF STORAGE UNITS, SO I'LL REPEAT IT.

AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, STORAGE UNITS ARE CONSIDERED QUIET NEIGHBORS.

THEY'RE NOT INTRUSIVE.

UM, STORAGE UNITS ARE ONLY A PROBLEM IF THERE'S ALREADY A PROBLEM, UH, BEFORE THEY'RE BUILT.

THAT PROBLEM SORT OF COMES ALONG AFTER THE FACT.

UM, THERE'S NOT AN IN SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN LINGERING OF TRAFFIC.

UM, AND THERE'S REALLY NO INDICATOR OF, YOU KNOW, HIGHER CRIME RATES, UM, ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO FOR ME, GOING THROUGH ALL YOUR CONSIDERATIONS, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING THOSE TO US EACH TIME, FOR ME, IT REALLY DOES GO BACK TO THE SAME THING FOR ANY DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT IS, IS THIS PROPERTY WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING? IS IT THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE? IT'S MY FAVORITE THING TO SAY.

AND I, I SAY THAT I CAN, I CAN SEE HOW SPECIFIC RETAIL WOULD WORK, UM, COULD WORK, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY, UM, VERY CREATIVE PERSONAL SERVICES, UH, POSSIBLY ANOTHER RESTAURANT, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN, UM, BECAUSE OF ITS VISIBILITY FROM THE, FROM THE HIGHWAY.

SO THAT TAKES ME BACK TO IS THIS A, A GOOD CONSIDERATION? UM, AND I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A GOOD CONSIDERATION.

THE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS IF I AM DRIVING DOWN 67, WILL I SEE THIS? AND I MEAN, DOES, DOES ANYONE KNOW THE QUESTION AS A THREE STORY BUILDING? WELL, I SEE THIS FROM 67 BECAUSE I WILL TELL YOU THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE A NO GO FOR ME.

UM, IF I CAN, IF I CAN, IF I CAN SEE IT FROM 67, IT'S NOT WHAT I WANT.

IT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE SEEN FROM 67.

SO, UM, THAT'S KIND OF A, A HARD POINT FOR ME.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE KNOWS THE ANSWER OR, YOU KNOW, VISUALLY, UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE.

BUT I THINK THAT THIS USE MAKES SENSE.

WE DON'T HAVE PUSHBACK FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE

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INTRUSIVE.

UM, IN ALL THE WAYS THAT I TRY TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, OUR, ALL OF OUR COLLECTIVE THOUGHT OF DO NO HARM, I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE DOING THAT.

I DON'T LIKE THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY OF FUTURE SALES, SALES, UM, USE, USE HACKS COMING IN.

BUT, UM, I SEE THIS AS A VIABLE, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER.

BUT FOR ME, NOT IF IT'S VISIBLE FROM 67, WHAT I WOULD OFFER, UM, IS THAT THE BUILDING HEIGHTS IN THE AREA ARE GENERALLY ONE STORY.

MM-HMM .

THERE ARE TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE ABOVE ONE STORY.

THEY ARE NOT WITHIN THE LINE OF SIGHT OF THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT.

UM, IN ADDITION, OUR REVIEW LOOKED AT THE IMPACT ON THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I I, WE DID NOT ASSESS FOR A VIEW SHED FROM THE, UH, HIGHWAY.

BUT AGAIN, I WILL SAY THAT THE BUILDINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY ARE GENERALLY ONE STORY.

I, I MEAN, FOR, FOR ME TO, UH, BE IN FULLY IN SUPPORT, I'D HAVE TO KNOW FOR SURE THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN GET, BUT IT'S JUST A NO GO AT THREE STORIES.

IF I CAN SEE IT FROM THE HIGHWAY, I WILL, UM, NOT TRYING TO SWAY YOUR DECISION IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CORNER OF 67 AND WINTERGREEN, IT WAS PROPOSED TO HAVE A, UH, THINK A THREE STORY, 55 PLUS MULTIFAMILY.

SO, UM, IF THAT, IF THAT DOES ANYTHING TO KIND OF HELP YOUR, UM, THINKING ABOUT LINE OF SIGHT.

SO YEAH, THAT, FOR, FOR ME, THAT PROJECT MADE MORE SENSE IN THE RESIDENTIAL, YOU KNOW, IN A RESIDENTIAL SETTING.

UM, BUT IT'S JUST THE, THE THOUGHT OF THE, THE, THE STORAGE.

AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK FROM, UM, I GUESS THE, THE DEVELOPER, I'M NOT SURE, UH, THERE ARE CONDENSING UNITS AND THEY ARE CLOSEST TO THE SIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL, ALTHOUGH THERE'S BUFFERING THERE.

UM, ANY THOUGHT, BECAUSE THIS IS CLIMATE CONTROL OF THE NOISE FACTOR FROM THOSE CONDENSING UNITS, I WILL DEFER TO THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND.

GOOD EVENING.

GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

AT THE SUPPLY DEMAND FACTORS, I GUESS, FOR TRYING TO DEVELOP.

UM, SAMUEL BLAKENEY, 10 65 COTTINGHAM DRIVE, MOUNT PLEASANT, SOUTH CAROLINA.

I WORK FOR MILLER VALENTINE.

UM, SO THE CONDENSING UNITS ARE ON THE ROOF OF, UH, THIS BUILDING.

SO THEY WOULD BE, AGAIN, 85 TO 95 FEET FROM THE, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE, UH, WESTERN PROPERTY LINE.

SO I WOULD NOT EXPECT THAT TO BE AN ISSUE FOR NOISE FOR THEM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, UH, UM, THE TREE BUFFER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

UM, THAT, THAT EXCELLENT.

UM, MY QUESTION'S FOR THE APPLICANT, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UM, THERE'S A NEED FOR SELF STORAGE.

WHEN I CALCULATE THE SIX UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY ALREADY, THE ONE UNDER PROPOSED THAT IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR FINISHING CONSTRUCTION, THIS WOULD BE OVER 600,000 SQUARE FOOT OF STORAGE SPACE FOR OUR CITY OF 50,000 PEOPLE.

UM, HOW DID YOU GET TO THAT CALCULATION? THAT'S REALLY A MARKET VIABILITY QUESTION, SO HE'S PROBABLY THE BETTER ONE TO ANSWER, ANSWER THAT ONE.

AND, AND THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY IS HOW DO WE KNOW ENOUGH IS ENOUGH? CORRECT.

SO THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

UM, WE ALWAYS LOOK AT, UM, AT, UH, YOU KNOW, STORAGE REALLY ON A THREE MILE BASIS.

SO AS WE SAID EARLIER THERE, THERE'S ONLY ONE OTHER, UM, STORY FACILITY WITHIN ONE MILE OF HERE, AND I'LL HAVE TO CHECK, BUT THERE SHOULD ONLY BE ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE WITHIN, UH, THE FIVE MILE RADIUS.

SO WITHIN THREE MILES OF OUR SITE, UM, THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE COMES DOWN.

UM, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANTLY, UH, WE ARE NOT REALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ANALYZE THE STORAGE SUPPLY SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN BECAUSE THE CUSTOMERS THAT WE EXPECT TO COME TO OUR STORE ARE VERY LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE TRAVELING MORE THAN ABOUT TWO TO THREE MILES TO OUR SITE.

SO THAT'S HOW MOST PEOPLE LOOK

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SO IS, IS THERE A FORMULA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, 50,000 DESOTO, 55,000.

SO THE FORMULA IS GENERALLY 10 SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA.

HOWEVER, YOU HAVE TO FACTOR IN WHAT'S ACTUALLY RELEVANT.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT THE CLOSEST, UM, FACILITY TO US WAS BUILT IN 1978.

THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE A 2027 BUILD.

SO IF YOU GET A CUSTOMER WHO WANTS TO STORE, YOU KNOW, SOME NICE ART, THEY WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE LIKELY TO USE A NEWER FACILITY THAT'S MORE SECURE RATHER THAN A 1978 PRODUCT WHERE THEY WOULD BE NERVOUS ABOUT HAVING THEIR, YOU KNOW, THE, SO YEAH, I, I THINK THAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, UM, WITH THE FORMULA OF 10 SQUARE FEET PER CAPITA, BUT ALSO FACTOR IN THAT IT'S NOT TRULY APPLES TO APPLES.

AND WHAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING IS NOT PERFECTLY COMPARABLE TO A 1978 PRODUCT, BASICALLY.

SO FACTORING NUMBERS FOR OUR CITY, JUST COUNTING OUR CITY, WE WOULD, I, I FACTOR 12 THAT WE WOULD BE OVERSATURATED IF YOU JUST TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL AND THEN DOING A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH TOOK ME A LITTLE MINUTE, BUT IF YOU GO NORTH TO HIGHWAY 20 OVER TO HAMPTON ROAD IN DESOTO AND THEN OVER TO WESTMORELAND IN DALLAS, IT'S ALMOST 20 ADDITIONAL STORAGE UNITS WITHIN A THREE MILE RADIUS.

AND I DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET IN EACH ONE OF THOSE UNITS.

MY, MY CONCERN IS THAT I, I, I AGREE THAT PROPERTY IS CHALLENGING BEYOND CHALLENGING, BUT IF WE'RE CREATING THIS JUST TO CREATE THIS, TO PUT SOMETHING THERE, BUT THIS IS DORMANT IN THREE YEARS BECAUSE THE MARKET'S OVERSATURATED, WHAT DO WE DO AS A CITY WITH A UNIT THAT MIGHT BE 20, 30, 40% OCCUPIED? HOW DO WE, WHAT DO WE DO AS A CITY WITH SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAVE A GOOD, THE BEST USE FOR US IF WE GO AHEAD AND BUILD THAT OR APPROVE THAT IS, AND ALSO, IS THERE A HARD AND FAST ON THE THREE UNITS? IT'S TWO OR TWO STORY, UH, THREE STORIES IS TWO STORIES NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER.

SO I THINK I'LL RESPOND TO YOUR SECOND ITEM FIRST.

UM, THE TWO STORY HEIGHT LIMIT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY CONSIDER.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD HAVE TO REDUCE THE SETBACK FROM THE WEST.

WHEN WE BROUGHT THAT UP WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND WITH THE COMMISSION, THEY WERE MUCH MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE WESTERN SETBACK VERSUS THE HEIGHT.

UM, THE HEIGHT OF THE TREES ON THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE IS GENERALLY HIGH ENOUGH TO BASICALLY LIMIT VISIBILITY FROM THE TOP OF OUR BUILDING TO THE BACKYARDS ON, UM, I THINK IT'S, UH, ELISE STREET.

UM, SO THEY WERE, THEY WERE MUCH MORE, YOU KNOW, THEY PREFERRED HEAVILY TO, UH, TO KEEP THE 83 FOOT SETBACK INTACT, UM, AND ALSO MAINTAIN THE THREE STORY HEIGHT AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVING A 40 FOOT SETBACK FROM THE WEST AND THEN DROPPING IT DOWN TO TWO STORIES.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF STORAGE PRODUCT WITHIN THREE TO FIVE MILES OF OUR SITE IS, YOU KNOW, OR WAS BUILT PRE 1990.

AND THEN THE FIRST ITEM I, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE AMOUNT OF STORAGE THAT YOU'RE SEEING THROUGHOUT CEDAR HILL THROUGHOUT, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, THE OTHER KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR CITIES.

I THINK THAT IT REALLY GOES BACK TO WHAT IS HAPPENING WITHIN THE THREE MILE RADIUS OF OUR SITES.

UM, WHEN WE ARE TRYING TO EVALUATE THE POTENTIAL SUCCESS FOR THE PROJECT, I'M CANDIDLY NOT REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S FIVE TO SIX MILES AWAY.

UM, THERE IS VERY GOOD DATA FOR STORAGE, BASICALLY POINTING TO THE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF ALL OF YOUR CUSTOMERS.

WE'LL BE COMING WITHIN TWO TO THREE MILES FROM YOUR SITE.

SO, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU WITH, UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SOME MORE DATA SHOWING WHAT THAT SPECIFIC ANALYSIS LOOKS LIKE FOR THE EXACT, UM, TWO TO THREE MILE RADIUS FOR OUR SITE.

UM, I WILL SAY

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SO WE ARE KIND OF GOING BACK TO THE CONVERSATION OF IS IT REALLY LIKE APPLES TO APPLES? WOULD A CUSTOMER FEEL SIMILARLY COMFORTABLE TRYING TO STORE THEIR REALLY NICE COUCH OR THEIR FINE ART IN A DRIVE UP, UM, 1980S STYLE, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, STORY FACILITY VERSUS OURS, WHICH WOULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, AUTO GATE CAMERAS, SECURITY LIGHTING, UM, TWO MAN STAFF CONSTANTLY.

SO I I, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT EVERY STORAGE FACILITY IS, IS NECESSARILY EQUAL.

AND ONE QUICK QUESTION.

UM, THE LIGHTING, WHEN I DRIVE BY AND I SEE PUBLIC STORAGE FROM THE HIGHWAY ON 20, IT'S MONOLITHIC.

IT, IT ALMOST RISES ABOVE THE HORIZON WITH LIGHT.

WILL THIS BE ILLUMINATED AT NIGHT? SO I THINK TWO POINTS ABOUT THE LIGHTING FOR SITE LIGHTING WE USE, UM, UH, WALL PACK LIGHTING.

SO THOSE ARE GENERALLY SET AT ABOUT 15 FEET, THEY FACE DOWNWARDS.

SO YOU ARE REALLY TRYING TO LIMIT A LOT OF THE LIGHT POLLUTION, ESPECIALLY GETTING INTO THE BACKYARDS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, OF UM, UH, SOME OF THOSE NEIGHBORS.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT THEY WERE SIMILARLY CONCERNED ABOUT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A BUNCH OF LIGHT SHINING IN.

UM, SO THAT'S HOW WE BASICALLY LIGHT THE ACTUAL SITE, THE SIGNAGE, LIGHTING, UM, IT REALLY DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU PLACE THOSE SIGNS.

SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WERE TO PLACE A SIGN ON THE EAST SIDE OF OUR BUILDING TRYING TO FACE 67, IT WOULD BE PRETTY MUCH USELESS 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE COVERED UP BY THE HOTELS.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY DECIDED ON WHERE THE SIGNAGE WOULD ULTIMATELY GO.

UM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE DECIDED IF WE, YOU KNOW, WE ULTIMATELY GET APPROVAL.

UM, BUT WE ARE ABSOLUTELY CONSCIOUS THAT THAT CAN BE, YOU KNOW, A NUISANCE TO NEIGHBORS.

UM, AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE HIGHWAY.

THANK YOU PRO TIM.

IF I CAN GET, UH, BOTH REPRESENTATIVES UP, UM, I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AND MY QUESTIONS SHOULD BE KIND OF SHORT ANSWERED.

UM, I, I WAS GONNA ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT THE OPERATOR, BUT, UM, SOUNDS LIKE YOU SAID IT'S GONNA BE TWO FULL-TIME STAFF ON SITE.

UM, THAT'S, THAT'S HOW YOU OPERATE.

UM, WHAT, WHAT ESSENTIALLY IS YOUR TURNOVER? UH, I MEAN ARE YOU GOING TO REFINANCE AND, AND OR TRY TO SELL THE PROPERTY AFTER, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX YEARS? OR IS THIS A LONG-TERM? UH, SO THIS IS, YEAH, SO THIS IS A LONG-TERM MOLD.

UH, AND THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO A LOT OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT I HAD WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

THEY WERE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT US, YOU KNOW, BUILDING THIS AND THEN SELLING IT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD FIVE TO SIX CONVERSATIONS WITH THOSE NEIGHBORS AND WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A VERY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THE OPERATIONAL SIDE OF THE BUSINESS.

THAT'S WHY WE WENT TO GREAT LENGTHS TO TRY TO CUSTOMIZE THE SITE FOR THEM.

UM, AND WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, DRIVING IN THERE LATE AT NIGHT, MOVING TRUCKS AROUND ALL THAT.

UM, SO WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO HOLD ON TO THIS FOR 20, 25 YEARS PLUS.

UM, THIS IS A VERY, YOU KNOW, UH, APPEALING SITE FOR US AND THERE'S NO REASON THAT WE WOULD WANT TO TRY TO SELL THIS.

GOOD DEAL.

SO IS YOUR BUSINESS MODEL THAT SAME WAY? SO EVERY LONG TERM, EVERY, EVERY ASSET YOU HAVE IS LONG TERM HOLD? CORRECT.

GOT IT.

UM, I GUESS THE SCALE AND INTENSITY, UH, I KNOW YOU KIND OF ADDRESSED THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE REALLY MORE FOCUSED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, UM, THAT THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS WORK.

AM I HEARING, AM I HEARING THAT CORRECTLY? THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ACCURATE.

ALRIGHT, PERFECT.

AND UM, SO, UH, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, FOR ME PERSONALLY, I LIKE THE BUFFER.

UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, TO ME I KIND OF LOOK AT IT, YOU KNOW, 20, 25 YEARS FROM NOW, IF WE DO HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND WE DO HAVE A MULTIFAMILY SITE, YOU KNOW, ON THAT CORNER, AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR STORAGE FACILITY AND I THINK THERE'S A HOTEL, WHAT IS THE NAME OF THAT HOTEL? UM, ADJACENT, I THINK IT'S A COMFORT

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INN.

IT'S A COMFORT, COMFORT INN TO THE, THE ONE THAT'S LIKE 3, 3, 4 STORIES TO THE SOUTH OF ITS COMFORT INN TO THE GIST OF, ITS THE ONE THAT'S THREE, FOUR STORIES.

COMFORT INN.

SO I GUESS IF I LOOK AT THE COMFORT INN AND LOOK AT YOUR SITE AND LOOK AT, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A POTENTIAL MULTIFAMILY ON, ON THE SIDE OVER THERE, YOU KNOW, I KIND OF JUST LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GATEWAY OF, OF ENTRY TO BE ABLE TO COME IN.

HOPEFULLY THE, THE RANCH IS STILL VIABLE AND, AND STILL, UH, YOU KNOW, PRODUCING THE SAME.

UM, SO I KIND OF LIKE THAT BUFFER ON THAT WEST SIDE.

UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I LIKE THE, THE TWO STORY AND YOU KIND OF JUST WIDEN IT OUT AND YOU DON'T HAVE SO MUCH OF A BUFFER OVER THERE.

I LIKE TO HAVE A BUFFER TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

MY QUESTION IS, UM, I GUESS THERE'S ALREADY A FENCE THERE ALONG THE TREE LINE.

ANY, ANY CHANCE THAT MAYBE WE MIGHT HAVE MORE OF A RETAINING WALL OVER THERE? UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S, UH, THE, SORRY.

WELL, JUST WHERE THE TREE LINE IS.

I, I I I THINK IT'S A PART OF A RETAINING WALL, BUT I DON'T, I GUESS IT'S MORE WOOD, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, I GUESS BEYOND THAT, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FEET IS RETAINING WALL, BUT YEAH.

I'M JUST CURIOUS.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, THE WEST SIDE, WEST END PROPERTY LINE? YEP.

YEAH, SO WE LOOKED AT POTENTIALLY PUTTING IN, UM, A MASONRY WALL THERE THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIX TO EIGHT FEET TALL.

AND THAT WOULD BASICALLY BE DESIGNED TO ACTUALLY BUFFER THE HOMES, YOU KNOW, UM, FROM US.

AND WHEN, WHEN WE ACTUALLY BROUGHT THAT UP TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY DID NOT LIKE THAT AT ALL, BASICALLY BECAUSE IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY BUILD THAT, WE'D HAVE TO GO IN AND TEAR DOWN MOST OF THOSE TREES.

UM, THE EXISTING LANDSCAPING SERVES AS, YOU KNOW, A BETTER BUFFER THAN PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING THAT WE COULD EVER BUILD.

UM, AND THEY WERE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THOSE TREES.

FAIR ENOUGH.

UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S ONLY ONE POINT OF ENTRY, UH, TO BE ABLE TO, I GUESS, MOVE THE CONTENTS IN.

UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS, IS THE SECOND AND THIRD FLOOR ALSO THE SAME SIZE UNITS OR YOU WILL HAVE MORE OF THE BIGGER SIZE SQUARE FOOTAGE UNITS FOR STORAGE ON THE FIRST FLOOR? SO YOU PRETTY MUCH NAILED IT.

THE SECOND, THIRD FLOOR UNITS ARE GENERALLY SMALLER 'CAUSE PEOPLE HAVE, UH, HAVE TO GO UPSTAIRS OR UP, UH, YOU KNOW, IT THE KIND OF LIKE TAKING, UM, COUCHES AND ALL FROM LIKE TRUCKS.

THEY WOULD PREFER TO TAKE THOSE INTO THE LARGER UNITS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

PERFECT.

UM, IN, IN THE HOURS IS FROM NINE TO SIX, HOW DOES THE KEYS WORK? UM, IF IT'S NINE TO SIX, IS IT JUST, YOU KNOW, OPEN, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE YOUR OWN, JUST THE KEY FOR, TO GET INTO THE BUILDING, NOT THE STORAGE UNITS, BUT YEP.

SO THE HOURS ARE NINE TO SIX, UH, FULLY MANNED WITH TWO STAFF DURING THOSE HOURS.

THERE IS NO ACCESS, UM, OUT, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.

SO WHEN YOU SIGN UP FOR A UNIT, YOU WILL GET A CODE.

THAT CODE LETS YOU THROUGH THE FRONT GATE.

UH, AND IT ALSO LETS YOU THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR AND THROUGH THE SIDE, UM, UH, I GUESS IT'S THE LOADING AREA DOORS.

UM, BUT REGARDLESS, THOSE ARE ONLY ACTIVE FROM NINE TO SIX, SO YOU'RE STILL NOT GONNA HAVE CUSTOMERS COMING IN AT NINE, 10 AT NIGHT AND LIKE BEING LOUD AND, YOU KNOW, UH, YEAH, A NUISANCE, BASICALLY.

THE, UM, YEAH.

SO, SO THERE'S A PERIMETER FENCE IN ORDER TO GET ONTO THE PROPERTY? CORRECT.

SO I GUESS A SHARED AGREEMENT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T EVEN BE POSSIBLE IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PERIMETER FENCE? CORRECT.

UM, I THINK, UH, SO THE BUILDING MATERIAL, ARE Y'ALL KIND OF STUCK ON, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE, THE, THE COLOR STONE THAT, THAT WAS ON THERE, BUT ARE Y'ALL, IS THAT PRETTY MUCH, UM, ARE YOU OPEN TO ANYTHING ELSE OR, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, IN, IN, IN TERMS OF COLOR, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY CHANGE THAT.

WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE NEIGHBORS, THEY REALLY WANTED SOME KIND OF HIGHER QUALITY PRODUCT, SO THEY DIDN'T WANT, YOU KNOW, EFIS OR SOME KIND OF METAL PANEL.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH THE BRICK.

UH, BUT IN TERMS OF COLOR, WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW.

I, I GUESS FOR ME, IF IT WAS TO MOVE FORWARD, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE A SUSTAINABLE PRODUCT.

YEP.

UM, 20, 25 YEARS, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'RE OUT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT BUILDING CAN STILL BE, YOU KNOW, USEFUL, YOU KNOW, AT, AT SOME TIME.

BUT, UH, I MEAN, THIS MAY WORK.

I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

UH, I JUST DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DIDN'T PRESENT THIS, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT A BUILDING WITH FOUR WALLS.

STICKING WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT WE JUST ADOPTED, YOU KNOW, FOUR YEARS AGO AND, YOU KNOW, COUNT THIS, COUNT, WELL, YOU KNOW, ALMOST THIS WHOLE COUNCIL WAS PART OF THAT PROCESS.

I DO WANT, I DO WANT IT TO KIND OF LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT FITS INTO THAT AREA.

LOOK, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE INFILL AND INFILLS ALWAYS KIND OF HARD TO, UH, TO BE ABLE TO PUT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS THE RIGHT TYPE OF USE IN THERE.

I APPRECIATE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR PLANNING DIRECTOR

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SO I, I DO APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING US WHAT WE HAD AGREED TO.

UM, COUNSEL, I JUST WANT TO SHARE THIS AND, YOU KNOW, UH, WE CAN DELIBERATE AND, AND, AND TAKE ACTION, BUT, UM, FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME, UM, THERE HAS BEEN COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, NOISE COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, A PARTY AND CELEBRATION AND PEOPLE JUST HAVING A GOOD TIME.

UM, PERSONALLY I THINK THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BUFFER, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RANCH TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, A, A, YOU KNOW, A A SPACE OF INFIELD, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THEM.

UM, THAT'S KIND OF HOW I KIND OF LOOK AT IT.

MAYBE IT MIGHT BE A, SOME SORT OF A REBOUND BOUNCE EFFECT FROM, FROM THE MUSIC OR JUST THE LAUGHTER, UM, YOU KNOW, THROUGH, THROUGH THAT TIME.

SO IF WE CAN BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH, YOU KNOW, THE RANCH JUST DOING THEIR, UM, THEIR JUST THEIR DOING THEIR BUSINESS, UM, BOUNCING, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, THE SOUND WAVES OFF THE BUILDING AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, OUR NEIGHBORS CAN HAVE THAT BUFFER, UH, IN, IN BETWEEN AND STILL BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR SUNDAY BARBECUE ON IN THEIR BACKYARD.

UM, TO ME, I FEEL LIKE WE KIND OF REALLY SOLVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE A, HAVE A SOLUTION.

SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW I, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LOOKED AT IT, UH, COUNCIL, UM, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, THIS INTENSITY BUILDING AND, AND KNOW, YOU KNOW, I, I, I DON'T, TO ME, I LIKE THE BUFFER, SO I DON'T LIKE THE TWO STORY OPTION IF THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT TWO STORY WORK.

UM, THE THREE STORY, I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

I DON'T WANT IT TO BE, YOU KNOW, BIGGER THAN THE HOTEL THAT'S ADJACENT TO IT, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HOTEL IS FOUR OR FIVE STORIES.

UM, IS, IS IT THREE STORIES? OKAY.

SO ESSENTIALLY YOU'D BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE HOTEL, UH, BUT I THINK THE MULTIFAMILY IS ALSO THREE STORIES, SO OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR ME COUNCIL, BUT IT, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S UP TO Y'ALL.

UM, SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UH, I, I DO HAVE A CONCERN AND MAYBE THIS COULD KIND OF FIX MY CONCERN, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE NOISE THAT, THAT THAT'S BEEN HAPPENING OVER THE YEARS THERE.

SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? OH, SORRY.

I, I HAVE, I DO HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER MALONE.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THE SLIDE? 'CAUSE YOU KIND OF WENT THROUGH IT QUICK AS FAR AS WHAT THE EXTERIOR LOOKS LIKE.

AND ARE, ARE THOSE, ARE THOSE REAL WINDOWS OR JUST, UM, IS IT, WE'VE SAID THEY'RE NOT ACTIVE, THE UPPER STORY ONES, THE REST ARE, THEY'RE REAL WINDOWS, BUT THEY'RE NOT ACTIVE IN THE SENSE THAT YOU CAN SEE OUT OF THE BUILDING INTO THE, OKAY, PERFECT.

NOPE, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.

DO YOU WANNA SEE THIS ONE OR THE I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT ONE.

I WANNA SEE THE PRETTY ONE.

YEAH, WELL GO GO BACK ONE.

YEAH, GO BACK.

I LIKE THE PRETTIER ONE BETTER.

SO IS THAT THE PROPOSED OR IS IT ANY ONE OF THESE THREE? IS THAT MORE OF A CONCEPT OR IS THAT JUST NO, SORRY.

SO THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT THE SPECIFIC BUILDING.

UM, THE PREVIOUS RENDERING IS MORE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE BUILDING.

SO THAT'S OUR ACTUAL PRO, UH, YEAH, UH, PROJECT.

THE TOP, UM, PHOTO THERE, OR YEAH, IS THE WEST FACING ELEVATION.

SO THAT WOULD BE THE SIDE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY, UH, ACTIVE WINDOWS ABOVE THE GROUND FLOOR.

SO THERE'S 1, 2, 3, THOSE ARE THREE WINDOWS.

SO THAT'S THREE FLOORS.

AND THEN THE ROOF IS RAISED EVEN HIGHER.

IS THAT WHAT THAT IS? OR THAT'S JUST A PARAPET WALL.

SO LIKE IF THE HVAC UNITS ARE ON THAT ROOF, YOU WON'T SEE 'EM OH.

TO KIND OF HIDE 'EM, BECAUSE THAT IT'S JUST A PARAPET WALL.

THERE'S, IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO FLOOR AREA BEHIND THAT, BUT IT STILL WILL BE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN THREE STORIES, ACTUALLY.

SO THE, THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PART OF THE, I KNOW THE, THEY'RE SCALED IN YOUR DOCKET AND YOU CAN SEE THE ACTUAL HEIGHT TO EACH POINT.

I THINK THE VERY TOP OF THE PARAPET IS, I THINK IT'S 43 FEET, 43 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE PARA.

SO ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COMFORT INN AND THE OTHER HOTEL, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE SAME SORT OF HEIGHT WHERE IT'S THREE STORIES, BUT THEY'RE ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, FIVE TO SEVEN FEET ABOVE THAT FOR THE ROOF UNITS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO I, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WOULD BE ANY HIGHER THAN THE OTHER BUILDINGS, THAN THE COMFORT.

UM, I'M NOT SURE IF THESE ARE COMMENTS, BUT I WANNA WRAP THE COMMENTS UP AND TAKE ACTION.

UH, COUNCIL MEMBER SIMS. SO, UM, I, I'D LIKE THE OWNER TO COME UP.

I GOT A QUESTION AND I KNOW THIS IS MR. INGLE.

PRODUCT PROJECT, BUT COUNCIL MEMBER HA, I MEAN, MCCURDY MENTIONED SOMETHING I THOUGHT WAS A CONCERN, AND THAT'S THE EXISTING PARKING, AND IN MY MIND, THIS SITE WAS A POTENTIAL WAY TO SOLVE THE PROB THE, THE PARKING PROBLEM THERE.

SO I KNOW THIS IS NOT A PART OF THIS

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BUT IF YOU PUT THIS, PUT THIS STORAGE FACILITY THERE, YOU HAVEN'T SOLVED THAT PROBLEM.

SO I KNOW THEY'RE UNRELATED, BUT I MEAN, IN MY MIND, AND I MIGHT HAVE BEEN NUTS FOR THINKING THAT, BUT THIS SITE WAS AN OPTION TO ADDRESS A PROBLEM.

AND SO THIS SEEMS TO NOT HELP THE, HAVING THIS PROJECT DOESN'T SEEM TO HELP THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE.

DO YOU, YOU THE PRO THE PARKING PROBLEM? YEAH.

THE, UM, PARKING PROBLEM, AND VERA HAS BEEN, WHEN THEY'D HAVE THESE PARTIES, THEY'VE BEEN UN UNBELIEVABLY SUCCESSFUL.

AND PARKING WAS A PROBLEM, BUT THAT'S ALL CHANGED.

I MEAN, THEY, THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY CAN AND WHAT THEY CAN'T DO AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

AS FAR AS THE PARKING ON, ON THE FOUR ACRES IS CONCERNED, IT'S PRETTY MUCH TAKEN CARE OF.

THERE WERE TIMES THAT THEY WOULD, THEY WERE HAVING A BIG PARTY, THEY'D PARK PEOPLE OUT OF THE GRASS ON 10 38.

WELL, SO THEY DON'T EVEN, THEY DON'T, DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE EITHER.

UM, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR, YOUR QUESTION.

UH, I DON'T THINK THAT THE PARK, THE TWO ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THINGS AND NO, BUT YOU GET, BUT YOU GOT A PROBLEM IN ONE AREA THAT, IN MY MIND I THOUGHT THIS OTHER PIECE OF YOUR PROPERTY WAS GONNA HELP SOLVE THAT, BUT NOW IF WITH THIS PROJECT IT, IT DOESN'T SOLVE THAT ANYWAY.

NO, THEY'RE UNRELATED.

WE, WE ACTUALLY TALKED TO, UH, VERACRUZ AND SEE IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD A, A PARKING LOT OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER, AND THAT WOULD BE AN AWFUL WASTE TO THAT OF THAT PROPERTY.

BUT, UM, BUT IF THAT, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

UM, I GUESS, UM, CAN I SPEAK TO THE SITE PLAN IF ONE OF YOUR REPRESENTATIVES? UM, I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M LOOKING, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN PULL UP THE SITE PLAN, GET THERE EVENTUALLY.

OH, THAT, YEAH, THAT SITE.

WELL, THAT WORKS.

UM, I, I'M FINNA ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER SIM'S CONCERN, BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS, UM, THIS EAST SIDE DETENTION POND, UM, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE CAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REPL OR WHAT, BUT IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN PUT SOME PARKING THERE AND THEN A PERIMETER FENCE UP AGAINST THE BUILDING ON THAT SIDE? OR, OR DO YOU NEED THAT? IS THAT DETENTION POND GIVEN BY STAFF? I JUST WAS CURIOUS TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT, 'CAUSE I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S GONNA BE A MAJOR PROBLEM AND, UM, IT HONESTLY, BILL, IT'S NOT THE, UM, IT'S NOT VERACRUZ, IT'S BOTH VERACRUZ AND SOME OTHER MERCHANTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THAT AREA.

SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD HAVE THAT DETENTION POND, MAYBE HAVE SOME SHARED PARKING THERE, UH, ON THE EAST SIDE.

UM, I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'LL CALL THAT PANHANDLE THERE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BILL QUESTION OR YOUR QUESTION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THIS.

I DON'T WANT TO TELL YOU YES OR NO 'CAUSE IT'S NOT FULLY ENGINEERED YET.

WE KNOW HOW MUCH THE SIDE IS GOING TO, WOULD HAVE TO BE COVERED AND ROUGHLY HOW MUCH DETENTION THAT WOULD BE.

AND THAT'S WHAT THIS REFLECTS.

THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT A FULL CONSTRUCTION DRAWING.

A A FULLY DETAILED PLAN IS REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO YOU IF THIS CONCEPT PLAN GETS APPROVED.

AND IF THE DIRECTION IS TO TRY AND FIND SOME EXTRA PLACES WHERE WE CAN GET A FEW SHARED PARKING SPACES, WE WILL EXPLORE THAT FOR SURE.

UM, 'CAUSE IT'S, WE'RE NOT A HIGH TRAFFIC OR PARKING DEMAND USE, BUT WE GOTTA KEEP FACILITIES SECURE.

SO THAT'S THE BALANCE WE GOTTA STRIKE.

GOT IT.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I'LL, YEAH, I, YEAH, I, I, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, TO, TO DO THIS SITE KNOWING THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING A PROBLEM THERE ANYWAY WITH THE, WITH THE VACANT LOT THERE.

SO, UH, IT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY THERE.

UM, MADAM CITY MANAGER, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? YES, MAYOR.

YES, MAYOR.

OWNER'S ON THE OWNER'S INVOLVED WITH THE POST LOCATION.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE THAT THIS REQUEST IS ONLY FOR THE ZONING AND THIS THE APPLICANT WILL HAVE BE REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO PNC AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND, UM, THEY WILL ADDRESS SIGNAGE, UH, ON THE BUILDING AS WELL AS PROPERTY SIGNAGE AT THAT TIME.

YEAH, I THINK THE COUNCIL IS STRUGGLING PASSING THIS, UM, THIS ZONING IF WE CAN'T ADDRESS A PROBLEM THAT WE ARE HAVING ON THE, ON EXISTING SITE.

SO THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S REALLY MORE OF MY CONCERN.

UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, THERE IS A PARKING ISSUE ON SITE ONE, UH, THE

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SO, UM, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S NOT FULLY ENGINEERED, BUT I JUST WANNA KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD, I MEAN, THERE'S A PROBLEM.

I JUST WANNA KNOW IF IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL SOLUTION BEFORE COUNCIL TAKE ACTION? SO, UM, DO YOU HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT OR, WE ARE HAPPY TO TRY.

I'M, I'M NOT FORCING YOU TO MAKE A COMMITMENT, BUT I JUST YEAH, WE HEAR YOU AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TRY AND BE A PART OF THE SOCIAL, THERE'S DEFINITELY SOME USES AROUND THAT COULD SHARE PARKING AND IT'S A, THERE'S A DISTINCTION BETWEEN CODE PARKING AND JUST OVERFLOW.

AND I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERFLOW.

AND I THINK BETWEEN THE PARKING AT THE HOTELS, THE MAY OR MAY NOT BE FULL, THE FUNERAL HOME, IF IT'S NOT FULL, WHAT WE WOULD BE ADDING HERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR THE EXISTING RESTAURANT TENANTS TO ENTER INTO THOSE KIND OF OVERFLOW ARRANGEMENTS IN THE FUTURE.

SOUNDS GOOD.

UH, FINAL COMMENTS AND COUNCIL, LET'S TAKE ACTION.

COUNCILWOMAN AZI.

YEAH, MAYOR, I JUST WANT JUST PROBABLY JUST TO, UM, FIRM UP MY, MY POINT ABOUT THE HEIGHT.

IT'S, IT'S REALLY A STICKING POINT FOR ME.

UM, AND I UNDERSTAND, AND TO SOME POINT AGREE WITH SOME OF THE STATEMENTS.

HOWEVER, UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD A STORAGE FACILITY ON 67 AND, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

I FEEL LIKE HAVING HOTELS WITH THIS HEIGHT SAYS ONE THING, BUT HAVING VISIBLE STORAGE SAYS SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE.

AND SO JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN CONSIDERING THAT AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

NO, I, I TOTALLY GET IT.

UM, YEAH, IT JUST, HONESTLY, IT'S A INFILL SITE.

UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE FRONTAGE AS, AS YOU MENTIONED BEFORE.

UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS JUST A, YOU KNOW, THE BEST USE, I DON'T KNOW, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLOSE.

THAT'S, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

UM, YOU KNOW, COUNSEL, WE KIND OF DELIBERATED WENT ROUND AND ROUND ABOUT IT.

UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE FEELING, WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.

, DON'T LOOK AT ME, I'M LOOKING FOR Y'ALL TO TAKE ACTION.

COUNCILOR MCCURDY, WOULD YOU, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANNA ADD? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE VOICED A NUMBER OF MY CONCERNS IN THE PAST ABOUT SELF-STORAGE AS A, AS A BUSINESS PRACTICE IN GENERAL.

AND ALSO MAKE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND VOICED MY CONCERN THAT THE ONLY PLACE I REALLY FELT THAT SELF-STORAGE WAS APPROPRIATE IS IN AN INDUSTRIAL AREA BECAUSE OF THE SHARED STORAGE ARRAIGNMENTS AND, AND THE UNREGULATED NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.

THERE'S NO WAY OF KNOWING WHAT SOMEBODY IS STORED IN A, IN ONE OF THE FACILITIES.

UM, I ALSO UNDER, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE DIFFICULT NATURE OF THIS, OF THE INFILL AND, AND THE AWKWARD LOCATION OF THIS PROPERTY.

UM, BUT THERE, THERE'S, TO ME, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S STILL SO MANY A, A LOT OF UNKNOWNS ABOUT THE, THE PARKING ARRANGEMENTS, THE, THE, THE LIGHTING AND THE SIGNAGE, THE, THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, UH, THE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AS WELL AS HOW THE APPEARANCE FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HIGHWAY.

AND SO AT, AT THIS TIME, I, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY WITH, WITH STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT WE DENY CASE NUMBER PD 7 5 0 2 0 2 5 SECOND.

WE DO HAVE A MOTION FOR DENIAL COUNSEL.

UH, AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND COUNCILMAN MALONE.

UH, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, DO A VOTE? OKAY.

UM, AND, AND ALLOW ME TO ADD, UM, THERE WAS SOME, SOME, SOME STUDIES ABOUT, UM, STORAGE UNITS, UH, AROUND THE RADIUS.

HOW MANY CLIMATE STORAGE IS WITHIN, IS WITHIN THAT FIVE MILE RADIUS? DO YOU HAVE THAT, THAT DATA? I MEANT TO ASK EARLIER.

I'M SORRY.

SO I DON'T HAVE THE DATA FOR THAT ON HAND, BUT GENERALLY, CLIMATE CONTROL STORAGE WAS NOT REALLY STARTED TO BE DEVELOPED UNTIL ABOUT 2010.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE STORAGE IN THE, THE THREE TO FIVE MILE RADIUS WAS PRE 1990.

SO I CAN ABSOLUTELY, YOU KNOW, GET THAT DATA FOR YOU, BUT I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT IT'S A VERY LOW AMOUNT OF, UH, EXISTING CLIMATE CONTROL STORAGE.

ALRIGHT, PERFECT.

CAN I ASK, CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? YEAH, YEAH.

WELL, JUST, JUST A COMMENT.

I GUESS JUST TO ASK ONE QUESTION NEXT CAME UP BEFORE ABOUT, I THINK THE, UH, MAYOR PORTO WAS ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIABILITY, BUT DID I READ SOMEWHERE THAT 90% OF THEM IN THIS AREA ARE, I MEAN THE, THE ONES THAT IT'S LIKE A 90% OCCUPANCY RATE.

I MEAN THAT'S, THAT SAYS THERE, TO ME, THERE WAS A NEED, A DEMAND.

I THOUGHT DEMAND FOR IT.

THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO KNOW.

I THOUGHT I READ SOMETHING LIKE THERE'S 90% OCCUPANCIES, WHICH INDICATES THERE IS A DEMAND FOR IT.