* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:06] GOOD EVENING [1. Call the meeting to order.] EVERYONE. TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2024. THIS IS THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING FOR THE BRIEFING SESSION. I DO HAVE A FULL QUORUM OF CITY COUNCILS PRESENT. I WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT OPEN CARRY IS NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THESE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. UH, I WANNA OFFICIALLY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. IT IS 6:00 PM AND THE [2. City Manager Reports: City Council Calendar/Upcoming Events City Operations Conduct a briefing to discuss items for the 7:00 p.m. regular meeting] NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CITY MANAGER REPORT. GOOD EVENING, CITY MANAGER, VALEZ. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. IT'S AN HONOR AND A PLEASURE TO BE HERE THIS EVENING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. UM, I HAVE LOTS AND LOTS TO GO OVER, SO I'LL BE REALLY QUICK. AND WE HAVE TWO, REALLY THREE REALLY GOOD BRIEFINGS, SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME. FIRST THING, BEFORE I GET INTO THE CALENDAR, I DO WANNA SHOW THAT AT YOUR, UM, PLACES THERE'S A MEMO FOR ME. JUST WANTED TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT. PLEASE READ IT AND LET ME KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. UM, ALSO, UH, I'LL GO OVER THE, UM, THE CALENDAR REALLY QUICK. AND I'M NOT GONNA GO OVER EVERY AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'LL GO OVER SPECIFIC ONES THAT WE WANT TO AT LEAST MENTION. AND THEN IF THERE, THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, I'LL MENTION SOME MORE. UM, AS YOU KNOW AND WHAT'S NOT ON HERE, UM, EARLY VOTING STARTS OCTOBER 21ST. IT'S STILL A WAYS OFF, BUT WE ARE PREPARING FOR THAT AT THE EE SIMS RECREATION CENTER WITH DALLAS COUNTY. AND THAT'S OCTOBER 21ST THROUGH NOVEMBER 1ST. UM, ALSO ON THIS SATURDAY, WE HAVE THE BEST SOUTHWEST EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS FAIR AT THE ALLEN SIMS RECREATION CENTER FROM NINE TO 12:30 PM AND THEN NEXT TUESDAY, WE HAVE A SPECIAL CALLED CITY COUNCIL MEETING, SEPTEMBER 17TH AT 6:00 PM IN ADMINISTRATION CONFERENCE ROOM. AND THEN NEXT THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH, WE HAVE THE TWO BIG EVENTS, NORTH TEXAS COMMISSION'S ANNUAL MEETING, WHICH IS IN ARLINGTON. I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN SEVERAL RSVPS FOR THAT. BUT IF WE HAVE DO NOT HAVE YOU DOWN, PLEASE LET US KNOW IF YOU WANNA GO TO THAT LUNCHEON AND WE'LL GET YOU RSVP'D. AND THEN THAT EVENING FROM SIX TO 8:00 PM UH, TML REGION 13, THIS IS A BIG EVENT IN WHICH ALL, ALL THE CITIES COME TOGETHER. IT'S AT DALLAS COLLEGE, CEDAR VALLEY CAMPUS. WE ALSO HAVE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS RSVP FOR THAT. BUT IF YOU ARE NOT, IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON THAT, PLEASE GO WITH, GO TO BELINDA AND SHE'LL GET YOU MORE INFORMATION. NEXT SATURDAY, WE HAVE OUR BEST, FIRST, BEST SOUTHWEST HISPANIC HERITAGE FESTIVAL FROM SIX TO 9:30 PM IN, IN GRIMES PARK IN DESOTO. AND, UM, TO SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT, I'D LIKE TO ASK OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, SEAN RAY, TO COME FORWARD AND GIVE YOU GUYS KIND OF A RUNDOWN OF WHAT WILL HAPPEN AT THAT EVENT. THANK YOU, MA'AM. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR COUNCIL. GREAT TO SEE ALL OF YOU THIS EVENING. UH, AS MELISSA SAID THAT, UH, WE'LL BE HAVING OUR FIRST BEST SOUTHWEST HISPANIC HERITAGE EVENT, UM, AT GRIMES PARK, LOCATED AT 5 0 1 WEST WINTERGREEN. JUST A QUICK RUN OF SHOW, THE GATES WILL OPEN AT FIVE. UM, OUR COUNTERPARTS IN DESOTO, UM, SUGGEST FOR OUR VIPS THAT THEY ARRIVE BETWEEN FIVE 30 AND SIX TO, UH, HELP BEAT THE TRAFFIC. UM, AND THEN, UH, THEY'LL START THE EVERYTHING AT FIVE 50, FOLLOWED BY PRAYER. AND THEN AT SIX O'CLOCK THE VIP DINNER WILL BE SERVED. UM, THEY'LL HAVE SEVERAL BANDS AND FROM SIX TO 7 25. BUT AT 7 25 IS REALLY WHEN WE NEED OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND OUR MISS HISPANIC HERITAGE HONOREES TO BE AT THE STAGE AND READY, UM, IN YOUR PACKETS THAT, UH, SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO YOU TODAY. AND THANKS TO SHAUNA FOR GOING TO SOTO TODAY AND HELP STUFF THESE AND GET THESE READY FOR YOU. UM, YOU'LL HAVE AN ENVELOPE, UH, AND THAT HAS A COUPLE OF THINGS IN THEM. AND THESE ARE PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER. ONE IS YOUR VIP PASS. THIS GETS YOU INTO THE VIP PARKING, ONTO THE VIP SHUTTLE, INTO THE VIP 10 AND ALL THAT FUN STUFF. AND THEN FOR YOUR PLUS ONE, THERE'S ONE WRISTBAND. SO JUST HAVE THEM, UH, AND THEY'LL HAVE THE SAME ACCESS AND AVAILABILITY TO ALL OF THE VIP EVENTS, UH, THAT GO ON. UM, THE SOTO HAS DONE A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER, UH, OUTSTANDING LINEUP. UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FIRST OF MANY GREAT BEST SOUTHWEST, UH, HISPANIC HERITAGE. UH, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THOSE NOW. OR IF YOU WANNA CATCH ME IN BETWEEN SESSIONS, UH, I'LL BE HERE FOR THAT AS WELL. SO, ALRIGHT, THANK Y'ALL. READY UPDATE. THANK YOU SEAN RAY. UM, ON THE 21ST, I WILL ACTUALLY BE AT THE INTERNATIONAL CITY MANAGER ASSOCIATION CONFERENCE, HOWEVER, BO CHASITY AND ALLISON WILL BE HERE. AND, UM, AND MARIE AND SHAWN RAY WILL BE AT THE EVENT. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT TO ME, BUT I WON'T BE PRESENT. ALRIGHT, JUST KIND OF MOVING ALONG TO THE SECOND PAGE, UM, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH, AND I'M SKIPPING OVER SOME THINGS. UM, THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 26TH FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN CITY COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR, UM, UH, AND CHAMBER HAS ASKED FOR [00:05:01] A SPECIAL NIGHT OUT AT HILLSIDE SOCIAL, THE NEW RESTAURANT. AND THIS WILL GIVE YOU A CHANCE IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO DO THE RIBBON CUTTING. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AND, UM, YOUR PLUS ONE A CHANCE TO COME AND VISIT AND, UH, TASTE SOME OF THEIR APPETIZERS AND THINGS. OF COURSE, THAT'S AT HILLSIDE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTER. AND THEN ON THURSDAY, OCTOBER 1ST IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST NIGHTS IN CEDAR HILL, OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT FROM FIVE 30 TO 8:00 PM WE HAVE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS ALREADY SIGNED UP. THE MEET POINT IS IN THE POLICE BRIEFING ROOM. AND, UH, WE WILL HAVE ESCORTS OVER TO THAT BRIEFING ROOM. UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT EVENING, UM, WE WILL PAIR YOU WITH THE POLICE OFFICER AND IT'LL JUST BE AN AWESOME EVENT. BRING YOUR APPETITE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 9TH, FURTHER ON DOWN THE PAGE FROM SIX TO 7:00 PM CEDAR HILL, ISD IS DOING THEIR HOMECOMING PARADE AGAIN, UM, AT THE HIGH SCHOOL. AND IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO JOIN US LAST YEAR, IT WAS A LOT OF FUN. UH, WE ALL WORE RED IN SUPPORT OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO JOIN US, PLEASE LET US KNOW AND WE'LL GET YOU INVOLVED IN THAT. UM, WEDNESDAYS OCTOBER 9TH TO FRIDAY, OCTOBER 11TH IS THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN HOUSTON, TEXAS. I THINK WE HAVE SEVERAL OF Y'ALL REGISTERED AND, UM, HOTEL ROOMS ALREADY. UM, SET, SET UP FOR THE COUNCIL AND STAFF. AND THEN FRIDAY, OCTOBER 11TH IS, UH, OLD SETTLERS REUNION. I ALWAYS CALL IT OUT OF MEMORY BEANS AND CORNBREAD EVENT AT 5:30 PM HOPEFULLY BINGO. BINGO. AND BEANS AND CORNBREAD. UH, IT'S A HUGE TRADITION OF CEDAR HILL AND IT'S A LOT OF FUN. SO COME AND JOIN US ON THAT FRIDAY. AND THEN THE NEXT DAY, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 12TH, 9:00 AM TO 6:00 PM IS COUNTRY DAY ON THE HILL, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, WE PLAN TO HAVE A DOWNTOWN STREETS OPEN HOUSE AT SOCIAL CHICA IN DOWNTOWN. WE'RE TRYING TO MIX IT UP WITH A DIFFERENT ESTABLISHMENT. UM, THAT IS FROM FIVE TO 6:30 PM AND THEN FRIDAY, OCTOBER 18TH FROM SIX 30 TO EIGHT 30, WE HAVE THE CHAMBER AWARDS GALA. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY, WE DO HAVE TWO TABLES FOR THAT. UM, YOU AND YOUR PLUS ONE IF YOU'RE INTERESTED. SO PLEASE LET BELINDA OR JENNIFER PARISH KNOW IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING TO THAT. AND WE'LL GET YOU REGISTERED ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26TH FROM EIGHT TO ONE. THE FOURTH ANNUAL VETERANS RESOURCE FAIR, UM, THAT IS REALLY A, THEY DO THIS ANNUALLY AND IT'S REALLY GREAT, UH, GREAT DAY TO, TO JOIN THE VETERANS. IT'S HERE AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED FOR THE RECREATION CENTER, BUT, UH, BECAUSE VOTING IS GONNA BE A VOTING LOCATION, IT'LL BE A LITTLE TOO BUSY ALL IN ONE LOCATION. SO IT'S HERE AT THE GOVERNMENT CENTER. AND THEN THAT SAME EVENING FROM SIX TO NINE IS SCARE ON THE SQUARE. ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS WHERE WE GET TO DRESS UP. AND IF THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN DRESSING UP, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE CAN COORDINATE AS SOMETHING THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 7TH, SIX TO 8:00 PM UH, WE DO HAVE OUR MUNICIPAL DEBT WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR THAT EVENING. THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE THURSDAY. AND WE MOVE THAT AROUND TO ACCOMMODATE A FEW OF THE COUNCIL PERSONS SCHEDULES. BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY COULD BE THERE IN ADVANCE OF OUR COUNCIL RETREAT LATER THAT MONTH. I DIDN'T GO OVER EVERYTHING ON THE AGENDA, BUT I'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE AT IT IN TWO WEEKS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, UM, COUNCIL CALENDAR BEFORE I GO THROUGH THE AGENDA? NOT, I'LL GO WAIT. I, I HAVE DO HAVE SOMETHING. UM, SO ON, ON SC ON THE SQUARE, WHO, WHO DO I CONTACT TO GET MY SPACE? I NEED MY SPACE DOWN THERE. I GOTTA GET THE BUS DOWN THERE WITH ALL THE, THE, THE, THE, UH, SMOKE MACHINES AND EVERYTHING. AND SO WHO, WHO, WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? IT'S THE LIBRARY THAT IS. IT'D BE THE LIBRARY, YES. SO, UM, IF I NEED TO HAVE THEM CONTACT YOU FOR SCARE ON THE SQUARE, I CAN HAVE THEM DO THAT. SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS A SPACE DOWN THERE TO GIVE OUT CANDY, THEY NEED TO CONTACT THE LIBRARY. YES. OKAY. YES. AND THEN THE FIRST SATURDAY IN NOVEMBER, WHICH IS NOVEMBER 2ND, WILL BE THE LAKE RIDGE CHARITABLE GOLF TOURNAMENT. SO I'D LIKE TO GET THAT ADDED TO OUR CALENDAR, PLEASE. WE WILL ADD THAT TO OUR COUNCIL CALENDAR. THANK YOU FOR THAT. ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE CALENDAR? OKAY, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA REALLY QUICKLY 'CAUSE UM, WE HAVE TWO GREAT PAR PRESENT, THREE GREAT PRESENTATIONS. THE FIRST BRIEFING IS ON, UH, COLLEGE ADJUSTMENT OPTION FROM T TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEMS. AND TRACY EZMAN, OUR DIRECTOR OF HR, WILL GIVE THAT PRESENTATION. WE DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT, BUT SHE'S GOT MORE THAN ENOUGH INFORMATION IN HER BRAIN. AND, UM, SHE'LL, SHE'LL GIVE THAT. AND THEN THERE'S AN ASSOCIATED ITEM ON THE COUNCIL AGENDA AS WELL. AND THEN WE HAVE TWO BRIEFINGS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES MANAGER, TIA BREWER, ONE ON THE BRIEFING OF LET'S CONNECT COMMUNITY FORUMS. AND MY ONE-ON-ONES WITH, UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MANY OF YOU MENTIONED THE FACT THAT YOU WANTED TO RECONNECT WITH THE COMMUNITY. [00:10:01] AND WE HAVE A, UM, AN OPTION FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THIS EVENING TO DIRECT US TO START SCHEDULING THESE MEETINGS WITH THOSE APPROPRIATE ZONES. AND THEN GET, MAKE ALL THE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THAT. SO WE REALLY WANT YOUR FEEDBACK FROM THAT SO THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT, IMPLEMENT YOUR FEEDBACK INTO THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE ALL THOSE ARRANGEMENTS. AND THEN LASTLY, WE HAVE A BRIEFING ON WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT AND ASSOCIATED RATES FOR CITIZENS. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT FOR, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS NOW ON A POTENTIAL CONTRACT EXTENSION. AND, UH, LOOKING FORWARD TO YOU, UM, GETTING YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT. MOVING ON TO THE AGENDA, WE HAVE INVOCATION BY PASTOR PRESTON WEAVER, FIRST UNITED METHODIST CHURCH OF CEDAR HILL, AND THEN WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS. FIRST IS THE WEEK OF SEPTEMBER 17TH THROUGH 23RD AS CONSTITUTION WEEK IN CEDAR HILL. AND THEN ANOTHER PROCLAMATION DESIGNATED THE MONTH OF SEPTEMBER, 2024 AS CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH. AND THEN THE THIRD PRESENTATION DESIGNATED SEPTEMBER 15TH THROUGH OCTOBER 15TH AS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH IN CEDAR HILL. AND I THINK WE HAVE OUR HISPANIC HERITAGE, UM, HONOREE, FRANCESCA ALVARADO, WHO IS GONNA ACCEPT THAT PROCLAMATION. UH, AS YOU RECALL FROM THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAD SEVERAL PUBLIC HEARINGS ON, I BELIEVE SEPTEMBER 5TH REGARDING THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. AND WE LEFT THOSE PUBLIC HEARINGS OPEN. SO THEY WILL REMAIN OPEN UNTIL YOU, UNTIL THE MAYOR CLOSE 'EM THIS EVENING. THAT'S WHAT ALL OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS ARE WITH, WITH REGARD TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER ONE THROUGH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, DISTRICT NUMBER FIVE. UM, ALL OF THOSE WHO SPOKE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING, WE'VE CAPTURED THEIR INFORMATION AND, UM, WE'RE ASKING THAT ANYBODY WHO HASN'T SPOKEN IN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SPEAK TONIGHT, UM, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE OPEN FOR THEM, YOU'LL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND ADOPT EACH ORDINANCE. MARIE, UM, HOPE, HOPE YOU SAVED YOUR VOICE FOR IT. 'CAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF ORDINANCES THEN. BUDGET AND TAX MATTERS. WE CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING ON FISCAL YEAR 24 25, PROPOSED TAX RATE OF 63 6 4 5 5 CENTS PER HUNDRED DOLLARS VALUATION. THAT IS A 1 CENT DECREASE IN THE TAX RATE TO PROVIDE FOR ALL OF THE SERVICES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL TO COLLUDE TO INCLUDE POLICE, FIRE CODE ENFORCEMENT, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, LIBRARY PARKS AND REC, AND ALL THE OTHER AMAZING SERVICES THAT WE PROVIDE. THE SECOND ITEM IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTION OF, UH, ORDINANCE, WHICH APPROVES AND ADOPTS THE BUDGET ASSOCIATED STARTING OCTOBER 1ST, 2024, AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025. AND THEN THE NEXT ORDINANCE IS ESTABLISHING THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 CIP PLAN. ITEM D IS ADOPTION OF, UH, AN ORDINANCE LEVYING THE I AVALOR TAXES FOR THE TAX YEAR 2024 AT A RATE OF 63 CENTS PER $100 VALUATION. THEN ITEM E IS CONSIDERED ADOPTION OF AN ORDINANCE WHICH RATIFIES THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE INCREASE IN THE FISCAL YEAR 24 25 AS A RESULT OF THE CITY RECEIVING MORE REVENUE FROM PROPERTY TAXES THAN IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR. THESE ARE ALL REQUIRED, UM, THROUGH THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET. AND THEN THE LAST ITEM IS AN ORDINANCE SETTING THE WATER AND WASTEWATER RATES TO BE CHARGED TO RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS IN THE CITY. AND, UM, ON AVERAGE, BASED ON YOUR USAGE, IT'S BETWEEN THREE AND $5 INCREASE PER MONTH. I WON'T GO THROUGH PERCENTAGE AGENDA ITEMS UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. THERE'S A LOT ON THERE. I THINK I RECEIVED INPUT FROM ONE COUNCIL MEMBER THAT YOU WANTED ITEM PERCENTAGE AGENDA TO ITEM NUMBER C PULLED CC. AND THEN WE HAVE A CLOSED SESSION, UH, TO DELIBERATE ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA? ALRIGHT, DOESN, LOOK LIKE THERE'S ANY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CITY MANAGER REPORT. NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA [3. Briefing on cost of living adjustment (COLA) option for Texas Municipal Retirement Systems (TMRS). ] IS BRIEFING ON COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENTS OPTION FOR TEXAS MUNICIPAL RETIREMENT SYSTEMS TMRS. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO TELL YOU ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAVE THE CITY OVER $200,000 A YEAR. SO LAST YEAR, HOUSE BILL 24 64 PASSED AND IT ALLOWED TMRS TO GIVE US A DIFFERENT WAY TO CALCULATE THE COLA. CURRENTLY WE'RE CALCULATING IT BY GOING, LOOKING BACK TO THE RETIREES DATE OF RETIREMENT, WHICH COULD GO BACK 28 YEARS. AND THIS OPTION GIVES US A CHANCE TO ONLY LOOK BACK 12 MONTHS. AND DOING THAT IS LESS EXPENSIVE FOR CITIES. IT ALSO GIVES US BETTER CONTROL OVER OUR LONG-TERM LIABILITY. AND THEN IT HAS ALL RETIREES GETTING THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF COLA INCREASE. AND REMEMBER, COLA IS THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT. IT'S BASED ON THE CONSUMER PRICE INDEX. AND IT IS SOMETHING [00:15:01] THAT RETIREES GET ONCE A YEAR AND IT INCREASES THEIR MONTHLY INCOME PERMANENTLY. SO THIS NO RETIREES MONTHLY PREMIUM OR INCOME WILL BE REDUCED WITH THIS OPTION. AND SELECTING THIS OPTION WOULD LOWER OUR TMRS RATE FROM 1660 TO 1590, WHICH SAVES US OVER $211,000 A YEAR AT A MINIMAL IMPACT TO RETIREES. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THOSE WHO RETIRED IN 2023, THEY WOULDN'T SEE AN IMPACT AT ALL. THEY'VE NEVER EVEN SEEN A COLA ADJUSTMENT. THOSE WHO RETIRED IN 22 WOULD SEE AT MOST A $4 A MONTH IMPACT. AND OUR LONGEST RETIREE RETIRED BACK 28 YEARS AGO, AND THAT PERSON WOULD SEE $8 AND 75 CENTS LESS A MONTH IF COUNSEL CHOOSES TO ADOPT THIS ORDINANCE. IT DOES REQUIRE AN ORDINANCE TO MAKE THE CHANGE AND THE CHANGE WOULD GO INTO EFFECT JANUARY 1ST OF 25. SO I THANK YOU AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE. ALRIGHT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNSEL? YES. UH, THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEE A REDUCTION, IT'S JUST THAT THEIR INCREASE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AS LARGE AS AS BEFORE. THAT'S EXACTLY IT. THERE WON'T BE ANY REDUCTION IN THERE IN THERE. NO. NOW THEY'LL STILL SEE A COLA, THEY'LL STILL SEE AN INCREASE AND THEY WON'T, THEY DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S CALCULATED ANYWAY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. IT'S A VERY COMPLEX CALCULATION. BUT THIS, UM, HOUSE BILL GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT IN A SIMPLER, LESS EXPENSIVE WAY. ALRIGHT, SOUNDS GOOD. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR COUNSEL? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU TRACY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, NEXT ITEM ON [4. Briefing on Let's Connect Community Forums. ] THE AGENDA IS BRIEFING ON LET'S CONNECT COMMUNITY FORUMS. GOOD EVENING TO YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE TONIGHT. UM, TONIGHT I'M GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU THE LET'S TALK, UH, SERIES OR COMMUNITY FORUMS, WHATEVER WE END UP CALLING IT. SO, UH, THE, LET'S TALK, UH, OR I'M SORRY, LET'S CONNECT SERIES ALIGNS WITH THE CITY'S, UH, MISSION STATEMENT TO DELIVER THE HIGHEST QUALITY, UH, SERVICES TO OUR CITIZENS AND CUSTOMERS, ALONG WITH OUR C COMMUNITY VALUES. THE SERIES ALSO ALIGNS WITH EACH PREMIER CHARACTERISTIC. SO PER, UH, CITY COUNCIL'S DIRECTION, UH, WE'RE GOING TO BE HOSTING A LET'S CONNECT SERIES, UM, THIS FALL TO ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO COME AND LEARN MORE ABOUT OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY AND HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE WITH CITY COUNCIL STAFF AND OTHER NEIGHBORS. UH, WE'VE DONE THESE IN THE PAST. THEY WERE FORMERLY KNOWN AS TOWN HALL MEETINGS AND THEY WERE VERY WELL ATTENDED BACK THEN AND VERY PURPOSEFUL. SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME MORE OF THOSE. UM, EACH SESSION WILL INCLUDE A PRESENTATION FOLLOWED BY BREAKOUT STATIONS, AND THESE ARE THE MAJOR DISCUSSION POINTS THAT EACH, UH, SESSION WILL INCLUDE. AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO IN ADD TO THAT, WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO ADD THAT TO THE LIST. AFTER THE PRESENTATIONS WHEN WE GO INTO THE BREAKOUT STATIONS, THERE WILL BE THREE BREAKOUT STATIONS. THIS IS KIND OF HOW I'VE BEEN ENVISIONING THE LAYOUT OF THE ROOM. ONE BIG AREA WITH LIKE A PRESENTATION SITTING AREA WITH THREE DIFFERENT STATIONS. UH, EACH STATION WOULD HAVE TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, TWO CITY STAFF OR DIRECTORS. AND, UH, SOME CONVERSATION POINTS. AND HERE ARE THE CURRENT ZONES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE OPTIONS. THERE'S, UH, THREE ZONES OR FOUR ZONES. UM, THE DATES ARE, UM, PROVIDED AND UM, EACH SESSION WILL START AT SIX AND HOPEFULLY END AROUND SEVEN 30. UH, LOCATIONS ARE TO BE DETERMINED. UM, BUT WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT. UM, AND OUR COMMUNICATION PLAN IS WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM TO MAKE SURE THIS IS COMMUNICATED THROUGH ALL OF OUR CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE. UM, AND BASICALLY THAT IS ABOUT IT. UH, AT THIS TIME I'M OPEN TO ANY AND ALL FEEDBACK. ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL ? OH, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OH, I THOUGHT SOMEBODY, NOPE. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, SO I, I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH, UH, CITY MANAGER AND I WANTED THE OTHER COUNCIL TO KNOW, OR THE, TO BE AWARE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I SHARED WITH THE CITY MANAGER. UH, THE EVERYONE THAT'S IN PART OF THE CITY KNOWS THAT TWO THIRDS OF OUR BUDGET IS DEDICATED TO PUBLIC SAFETY. AND, UH, HISTORICALLY OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS ARE GOING UP AND THE STATE HAS PLACED CONSTRAINTS ON OUR REVENUE AT 3.5%. BUT I BELIEVE OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COSTS, IF I'M NOT WRONG STATEMENT, ARE GOING UP DOUBLE OR TRIPLE THAT, IF THAT. AND SO I WANTED US TO, WITH PUBLIC SAFETY [00:20:01] BEING SUCH A BIG PORTION OF OUR BUDGET, ALMOST TWO THIRDS, I I JUST WANTED US TO MAKE SURE THAT IN OUR PRESENTATION WE COVER THE, THE FACT THAT WE'VE GOT CONSTRAINTS, BUT THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMPONENT IS, IS FAR EXCEEDING THE REVENUE CAPS THAT THE STATE PUTS ON US. AND THAT NECE NECESSITATES A NEED FOR US TO GROW THE BUDGET AS FAR AS NEW COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OR NEW NEW DEVELOPMENT, THAT JUST DRIVES US TO NEED ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO COVER THAT. 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA COVER THAT FROM EXISTING RESOURCES. ANYWAY, THOSE, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M BEING CLEAR ON MY THOUGHTS. YES. UH, COUNCIL MEMBER . THANK YOU TIA. MM-HMM. . UM, I, FIRST OF ALL LOVE THE, THE THOUGHT AND IDEA OF THESE, UH, CONNECTIONS. UH, I'M NOT SURE HOW FAR WE'VE GOTTEN INTO IT AND THIS IS MY, UH, TYPE A SPEAKING, SO FORGIVE ME. UM, I KNOW THAT IN THE PAST IF THEY WERE REFERRED TO MORE AS TOWN HALLS, UM, LET'S CONNECT. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HOWEVER WE PUT THIS OUT, THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS IS NOT JUST A, YOU KNOW, A CASUAL KIND OF THING AND THAT THE TRUE INTENT OF IT 'CAUSE LESS CONNECT SEEMS KIND OF, YEAH. WE'RE JUST GONNA GET TOGETHER AND JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE A FELLOWSHIP. MM-HMM. . AND I'M HOPING THAT THIS WILL BE A BIT DEEPER THAN THAT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT'S THE INTENT. SO FOR SURE. JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, IT'S CLEAR THAT THESE ARE IMPORTANT. UM, I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT THERE IS A, HOPEFULLY THAT WE HAVE A DISCUSSION THAT THE FOURTH ONE, UM, IS ADDED. I SEE HOW IT WAS DIVIDED AND, UM, MM-HMM. , I AM, DEPENDING ON IF WE HAVE THREE OR FOUR, I'M EITHER GOING TO MISS ONE OR TWO BECAUSE OF VACATION. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THIS TO BE, UM, RECORDED, UM, MORE SO THAN BY HANDWRITTEN NOTES. SOMETHING THAT I COULD, UM, GO BACK AND, AND WATCH. OKAY. UM, AND THEN I THINK THAT THE LAST THING IS SOMEWHAT ALONG THE LINES OF, OF, UH, MAYOR PRO TEM. UM, THE, THE PUBLIC SAFETY IS CER IS, UH, CERTAINLY ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL THINGS, BUT I FEEL LIKE, UM, THE CITIZENS DON'T FEEL IT UNTIL THEY NEED IT. UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE, UM, INCLUSION OF WATER AND WASTEWATER, UM, AND HOW THAT PROCESS GOES, UM, AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE CITIZENS. SO WHEN THEY SEE AN INCREASE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW IT CAME ABOUT. AND THAT THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE CITY MAKING MONEY, IT'S ABOUT OUR US COVERING OUR COSTS. EXACTLY. SO, UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S IT FOR ME. MM-HMM. . OKAY. WELL, I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOW I, I CONCUR WITH, UH, OUR OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR PRO TEM. UH, AND I, I CAN RECALL BACK WHEN WE USED TO HAVE SOME OF THESE THAT WE DID CALL TOWN HALL, AND I THINK THEY WERE WELL RECEIVED BACK THEN. SO I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECONNECT BACK OUT THERE FOR THIS. UNFORTUNATELY, I'M GONNA BE MISSING THE OCTOBER 29TH ONE, SO YOU'LL KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. MM-HMM. . OKAY. SOMETHING I'VE HAD PLANNED FOR A YEAR AND A HALF , SO MM-HMM. . UM, BUT OUTSIDE OF THAT, NOW I'M ALL FOR THIS PROCESS AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WILL, WILL RECEIVE IT. SO, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MCCURDY? YES. THANK YOU. MR. GRAHAM. NOW DO, IS THE PRESENTATION, IS IT SOMETHING THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE PUT TOGETHER AND COMPILED? OR ARE YOU JUST KIND OF, OF TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT STILL AS TO WHAT, WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE AT EACH, EACH ONE OF THE SESSIONS? WE KNOW, UH, OUR DISCUSSION POINTS, UM, THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT IT HAS NOT BEEN CREATED YET TO MY KNOWLEDGE. UM, BUT, UH, SO WE'RE OPEN TO ANY SUGGESTIONS ON THAT. SO, I MEAN, HERE, HERE'S MY THOUGHTS. MM-HMM. IS THAT, UM, I THINK COUNCILMAN NAZI HAD A GREAT IDEA AND THAT, AND THAT WE SHOULD RECORD EACH OF THESE SESSIONS. MM-HMM. , UM, AND, AND UPLOAD THEM TO, TO THE CITY WEBSITE. I THINK PROBABLY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET DOWN TO IS TO, TO HAVE ANY MEANINGFUL DISCUSSION ABOUT ANY OF THESE TOPICS. 'CAUSE THEY'RE ALL BIG TOPICS AND THERE'S A LOT OF MATERIAL TO COVER. UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M THINKING ABOUT THAT AS FAR AS YOU, YOU'RE ALMOST GONNA HAVE TO HAVE EACH SESSION BE ABOUT ONE TOPIC. MM-HMM. . UM, AND THEN, SO THAT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO ATTEND ALL FOUR OH, THEY, THEY, IS, IS THAT YOUR INTENT? YES. SORRY, I TOTALLY FORGOT TO MENTION THAT. . SO IT, THE, THE ZONES ARE NOT NECESSARILY FOR, UM, THEY'RE JUST TO BA BASICALLY CAPTURE ALL AREAS OF CEDAR HILL. UM, ANY RESIDENT CAN ATTEND ANY ZONE, UM, ANY SESSION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE MUL, ALL OF 'EM IF THEY WOULD PREFER EVEN. UM, BUT, UH, IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO CAPTURE THE DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE CITY. [00:25:01] SO. OKAY. SO DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE TOPICS ARE GONNA BE FOR EACH OF THE FOUR SESSIONS? YES. RIGHT HERE, THESE MAJOR DISCUSSION POINTS IS WHAT WE'VE NAILED DOWN SO FAR. OKAY. SO THESE AREN'T, WE'RE NOT GONNA TRY TO COVER EVERY ONE OF THESE IN EVERY SESSION. MAY I CLARIFY? PLEASE? UM, JUST, JUST QUICKLY, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND LEMME CLARIFY THAT THESE ARE MEETINGS FOR THE COUNCIL. SO WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO ORGANIZE IS WHAT WE WILL DO. MM-HMM. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE, THESE ARE BASED ON WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST, AND WE HAVE COVERED EVERY ONE OF THESE TOPICS IN EVERY ONE OF THE MEETINGS. AND SO WE WILL PUT TOGETHER THE PRESENTATION AT YOUR DIRECTION ON WHAT YOU WANNA COVER. BUT THE SAME PRESENTATION WILL BE FOR EVERY ONE OF THE MEETINGS THAT IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY PROPOSED. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I KNOW IT'S A LOT OF CONTENT, BUT THAT IS THE REASON FOR THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS. IF YOU GO BACK, THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS WILL GO INTO MORE DETAIL ON THESE TOPICS. BUT THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL, UH, WILL GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION OVERALL BIG PICTURE. AND THEN IN THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS YOU WILL TALK MORE DETAIL AND WE'LL GIVE YOU THE TALKING POINTS NECESSARY TO HELP FACILITATE A GOOD CONVERSATION. OKAY. I MEAN, 'CAUSE I'M, I'M THINKING, TO ME, YOU COULD HAVE PROBABLY ALMOST ONE ENTIRE MEETING JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY AND, AND THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND WHY WE'VE DONE THEM AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE COMMUNITY. YOU COULD HAVE ONE WHOLE MEETING JUST TALKING ABOUT WATER AND, AND WASTE TREATMENT AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED AND WHY RATES HAVE GONE UP AND THE THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING THERE. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAD A, UH, A CONVERSATION ON, ON MONDAY, UM, YESTERDAY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, IT FEELS LIKE IT'S, I'M HALFWAY THROUGH THE WEEK ALREADY, BUT IT'S ONLY TUESDAY. UH, BUT SO YESTERDAY, YOU KNOW, I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ABOUT TOUCHING ON THE CEDAR HILL NEXT, BUT, YOU KNOW, TALKING ABOUT WHY GROWTH IS IMPORTANT AND THE FACT THAT IF WE DON'T HAVE GROWTH WHERE WE ARE AT IN THE CITY, THAT IT'S GONNA MEAN THAT IN THE NEXT 10 YEARS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A VOTE IN THE CITY REFERENDUM ON DO WE WANT TO CUT SERVICES OR DO WE WANNA INCREASE THE TAX RATE? BECAUSE IF WE DON'T HAVE GROWTH, THOSE ARE GONNA BE YOUR TWO CHOICES. AND SO I THINK MAYBE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT CONVERSATION TO HAVE WITH CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY AS THEY, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THOSE THAT SEEM TO BE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE OPPOSED TO THE IDEA OF GROWTH, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL AND MM-HMM. , UH, THAT, THAT, THAT IS DIRECTLY TIED TO OUR ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE SERVICES THAT THEY UTILIZE TODAY. FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE GROWTH MM-HMM. , UM, IN, IN ORDER TO DO THAT. SO ANYWAY, THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN GLOVER. THANK YOU. UM, I ALSO CONCUR WITH THE, THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. I JUST HAVE ONE CAVEAT. I'M NOT ALWAYS A COUNCILMAN. AND WHEN I GO TO MEETINGS AND I'M A PARTICIPANT, ONE THING THAT FRESH ME FRUSTRATES ME IS NOT BEING HEARD. SO I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO A VITAL COMPONENT THAT WE HEAR AND LISTEN, PART OF US BEING LEADERS IS ABSORBING INFORMATION AND LISTENING AND ALSO GIVING OUR CITIZENS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD. SO IT SOUNDS, IT FEELS A LOT OF OUTWARD INFORMATION, WHICH I THINK IS VITAL. BUT THERE HAS TO BE A COMPONENT WHERE WE'RE WE, MOUTH ARE CLOSED, HANDS ARE IN THE LAPSE, AND WE'RE LISTENING. SO I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE BREAKOUT SESSION OR IF THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT THE CITIZENS ARE SAYING. I WANT TO HEAR THEIR OPINIONS. I WANT TO HEAR WHAT'S MM-HMM. , I WANNA HEAR FROM THEM. YES. THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BREAKOUT SESSIONS. UM, WE MAY EVEN HAVE, UM, A LINK FOR THEM TO GO TO IF THEY CAN'T STAY FOR BREAKOUT SESSIONS, MAYBE THEY CAN SUBMIT QUESTIONS TO A SPECIFIC EMAIL ADDRESS AND WE CAN ADDRESS 'EM LATER. SO, UM, IT, IT, WE'LL MAKE SURE TO CAPTURE ALL OF THAT. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. , UM, UH, COUNCILOR HAYDEN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? YEAH, JUST, I JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE WHAT, WHAT SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS BROUGHT UP, THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT A SPECIFIC ZONE AND YOU'RE REDOING THINGS. TO ME, IT NEEDS TO BE REALLY ARTICULATED TO KNOW THAT, HEY, WE HAVE THESE THREE PRESENTATIONS COMING UP AND, AND WE ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO ATTEND AT LEAST ONE OF THEM. MM-HMM. , UH, AND, UH, AND NOT JUST BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IN ZONE ONE OR ZONE TWO. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE NEED TO AT LEAST LET THEM UNDERSTAND THAT. AND YOU SAID THAT IN THE BEGINNING, BUT I THINK IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE EMPHASIZED THAT, HEY, WE'RE SETTING THESE, THESE MEETINGS UP AND, UH, WE'RE GIVING, WE'RE GIVING 'EM THREE TIMES, SO WE WANT TO, EVERYBODY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND ONE OF 'EM. SO YES. I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, YOU'RE PRETTY POPULAR. I THINK YOU GOT MORE PEOPLE WANT TO TALK TO YOU, UH, PRO. YES. UHHUH . THANK YOU MAYOR. UH, FOLLOW UP WITH SOMETHING. [00:30:01] COUNCIL MEMBER GLOVER MENTIONED ABOUT BEING HEARD. I, I REMEMBER ONE TIME WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO GIVE US IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK WITH LITTLE CLICKERS. THERE WOULD BE A QUESTION THAT WAS POSED TO THEM AND CITIZENS COULD IMMEDIATELY OR RESPOND, YOU KNOW, TO ONE OF THE, SO I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS BEING PLANNED, BUT THAT, THAT GIVES THE CITIZENS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR IMMEDIATE FEEDBACK AND IMMEDIATE, UH, INPUT TO US. AND SO, IF, I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, SET UP, BUT WE HAD THOSE LITTLE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED. UH, THEY, WE HAD CLICKERS IN THE PAST. THERE'S TECHNOLOGY THAT WE DON'T NEED THE CLICKERS FOR YOU. ALL YOU NEED IS YOUR CELL PHONE. PHONE. SO ABSOLUTELY, WE CAN ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. WHAT WE CAN DO IS PUT THE, THOSE DRAFTED QUESTIONS TOGETHER FOR YOU BECAUSE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE QUESTIONS WE'RE ASKING ARE WHAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO HEAR, AND THAT, UM, YOU CAN GIVE US YOUR FEEDBACK ON THEM AND THEN YOU'D HAVE HARD DATA COMING BACK FROM THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. MM-HMM. . AND, UM, LASTLY WE'LL HEAR FROM COUNCILOR MALONE. OKAY. UM, THANK YOU MAYOR. I APPRECIATE, UM, SOCIAL MEDIA, . ARE THERE ANY OTHER AVENUES BESIDES THESE THREE AND HOW WE KNOW THAT THE CITIZENS CEDAR HILL RECEIVING THIS OR WE DON'T GET THE WAY CONTRACT COMING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? MM-HMM. , UH, YES. UH, WE WILL, UH, PUT OUT A REGISTRATION LINK SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST TRY TO CAPTURE SOME NUMBERS AND INFORMATION BEFOREHAND. UM, THIS IS ALL STILL VERY IN THE EARLY STAGES, SO, AND I'M SURE THERE IS WAY MORE AVENUES OF COMMUNICATION THAN THESE THREE LISTED HERE. UM, BUT I KNOW THAT ALLISON WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO. . SO, UM, TIA, I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS. MM-HMM. . UM, I THINK ONE, UM, IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN, UM, FRAME, AND I'M GONNA USE THE WORD MARKETING, BUT IS THERE A WAY WE CAN FRAME THE MARKETING TO SAY THAT THESE ARE SERIES, INSTEAD OF SAYING, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT SEEM AS IF WE ARE IN YOUR GENERAL AREA, THIS IS REALLY FOR YOU. IF, IF IT'S A SERIES OF FOUR MEETINGS, MAYBE PEOPLE COULD UNDERSTAND THAT, HEY, UH, EACH, EACH MEETING WOULD BE DIFFERENT. IS THAT, SO YOU WOULD LIKE EACH MEETING TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT? UH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT. I WAS HEARING THAT EACH MEETING WILL BE DIFFERENT. IT'S NOT GONNA BE REALLY JUST GEARED TOWARDS THE GENERAL AREA. AM I HEARING SOMETHING DIFFERENT? UM, SO EACH ONE WILL JUST KIND OF TAKE PLACE IN A DIFFERENT AREA. OH, OKAY. OH, I'M SORRY. SAME TOPICS, DIFFERENT AREA, SAME TOPICS. A DIFFERENT AREA. MM-HMM, . OH, OKAY. MAYBE I, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD. I THOUGHT IT WAS DIFFERENT TOPICS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO SAME TOPICS, DIFFERENT AREA. OKAY. THEN THAT, THEN THAT'S FINE. I, I, I WANTED TO MAKE IT SEEM AS IF, UH, WHENEVER WE SEND OUT THE INFORMATION THAT, UH, THE SAME INFORMATION WILL BE GIVEN TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. MM-HMM. AS IT RELATES TO THE, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT, UH, VIDEOTAPING IT. UH, I GUESS MY CHALLENGE, OR THE CHALLENGE WOULD BE IF WE GO TO BREAKOUT SESSIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WON'T BE CAPTURED WITHIN THE VIDEO. SO I JUST DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, UH, UH, PART OF HAVING, UM, CITY STAFF, UH, THERE AT LEAST ONE PERSON AT EACH STATION WILL BE TAKING NOTES. OKAY. SO IF WE NEED TO FOLLOW UP ON ANY ITEMS, WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. THAT'D BE GREAT. MM-HMM. . AND THEN I GUESS FOR COUNCIL, WHO HASN'T BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK, UH, TO THE SLIDE WHERE THE STATIONS ARE? YES. HERE. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT EACH STATION WOULD NOT BE THE SAME TOPICS. PROBABLY NOT. OKAY. UH, THAT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD DEFEAT SOME PURPOSES, BUT, UM, BUT YES, THERE WOULD PROBABLY BE DIFFERENT TOPICS AT DIFFERENT STATIONS, CHAIRS, DISPLAYS, UM, PAMPHLETS, THINGS LIKE THAT. YES. THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING. I THINK IT WOULD COVER MORE GROUND IF WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE ATTRACTION OF WHATEVER MM-HMM. , UH, THE CITIZENS CAN BE ABLE TO GO TO AND THEN ASK QUESTIONS. AND THEN OF COURSE THEY CAN ROTATE, OBVIOUSLY. UH, AND IT, IT, IT WOULD BE MORE INTERACTIVE, I GUESS. MM-HMM. , SO SOUNDS LIKE, SOUNDS LIKE THE TALKING POINT CONVERSATION, UH, WILL BE, UH, WILL BE, WILL BE MET. UM, I GUESS, I GUESS, OH, AND THE LAST THING IS, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE TRYING TO START RIGHT AT SIX. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT ON THE, UH, ON, OKAY. WELL, , ACCORDING TO THIS, IT SAYS START RIGHT AT SIX. IT'S ALL RELATIVE. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN PUT LIKE, DOORS OPEN AT FIVE 30 OR SOMETHING SO PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY COULD COME OR EARLY. SO, AND I THINK THAT'S ALL MY COMMENTS. OKAY, GREAT. YOU GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THOSE SUGGESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. PUT 'EM INTO PLACE. SO I GUESS YOU'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE, SO YOU ARE WAITING ON ME. SO LET ME, MAY I GET CLARIFICATION? OH, JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE? YES, MA'AM, GO AHEAD. UM, UH, YOU'RE WANTING TO DO THE FOUR ZONES? CORRECT. UH, AND YOU WE'RE OKAY WITH THE EXACT SAME PRESENTATION FOR ALL FOUR ZONES. AND IF YOU, IN THE EVENT YOU WANT MORE THAN THREE BREAKOUT SESSIONS, WE CAN HAVE AS MANY AS SIX TO SEVEN, AS MANY AS WE HAVE OF YOU, THEY'RE [00:35:01] PRESENT. SO, UM, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE BREAKOUT SESSIONS, WE CAN DO THAT. THAT SOUNDS GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, AND AS FAR AS THE TOPICS, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, NAIL THAT DOWN LATER. YEAH. WE'LL SEND OUT AN EMAIL SPECIFICALLY DRAWING OUT MORE DETAIL, AND THEN YOU CAN GIVE US FEEDBACK ON THAT. SOUNDS GREAT. ALL RIGHT, COUNSEL. WE HAVE SAME PAGE ALMOST. ALL RIGHT, TIME. ALL RIGHT. NEXT ITEM [5. Briefing on Waste Management Contract. ] ON THE AGENDA IS BRIEFING ON WASTE MANAGEMENT CONTRACT, TIA. WELL, IT'S ME AGAIN. UH, GOOD EVENING. UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON THE SOLID WASTE CONTRACT. OUR CURRENT SOLID WASTE CONTRACTOR, WASTE MANAGEMENT HAS DONE A FINE JOB IN THEIR MAJOR ROLE OF SUPPORTING OUR VISION, MISSION, AND VALUES WITH THEIR SERVICES THAT TOUCH ALL BUSINESSES AND HOUSEHOLDS IN CEDAR HILL. THE CITY'S PARTNERSHIP WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT ALIGNS WITH EACH PREMIER CHARACTERISTIC. AND THE PURPOSE OF TONIGHT'S MEETING IS TO REVIEW CURRENT RESIDENTIAL RATES AND SERVICES, RECAP OUR CURRENT THREE YEAR TERM AGREEMENT REVIEW OUR FIVE YEAR REVIEW OF FIVE YEAR TERM EXTENSION PROPOSAL, INTRODUCE RATE TO CITIZEN, INCREASE OPTIONS, AND OBTAIN COUNCIL DIRECTION. OUR CURRENT, UH, TRASH SERVICES ARE ONE, ONE TIME WEEKLY TRASH AND RECYCLING COLLECTION. IT INCLUDES 2 96 GALLON CARTS, UH, ONETIME MONTHLY BRUSH AND BULK COLLECTION, A QUARTERLY ACCESS TO THE LANDFILL, AND OUR NEWEST ON-CALL PREMIER SERVICE AT YOUR DOOR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE COLLECTION. AND THESE ARE OUR CURRENT RATES TO CITIZENS. UM, WE CONTINUE TO PROVIDE A LOWER RATE FOR OUR SENIORS, WHICH IS 65 YEARS PLUS. AND SO THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE SHOWS, UH, THAT OUR BEST SOUTHWEST CITIES RATES, UH, RATES TO CITY VERSUS THEIR RATES TO CITIZENS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE SOME CITY SURCHARGES, UH, TO CITIZENS THAT RANGE ANYWHERE FROM $6 TO $13. CURRENTLY ARE SURCHARGES, $3 AND 2 CENTS FOR NON-SENIOR SERVICE. AND NOW I WOULD LIKE TO RECAP SOME OF OUR BIG WINS OF OUR CURRENT THREE YEAR CONTRACT. THE FIRST ONE BEING OUR FIXED 3.5% CPI. WITH, UH, WITH THIS, WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MITIGATE ANNUAL INCREASES AT AN AVERAGE OF 62 CENTS PER YEAR, UH, FOR GOD SENIORS AND 48 CENTS PER YEAR TO SENIORS WITHOUT THE FIXED CPI RATE. UH, THIS IS BASICALLY SHOWING WHERE WE COULD BE AT THIS TIME. UH, WE COULD HAVE DEFINITELY INCURRED LARGER COSTS THROUGHOUT THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT INSTEAD HAVING THE FIXED RATE, WE'VE ACTUALLY SAVED RESIDENTS $57 AND 17 CENTS OVER THE PAST THREE YEARS. THAT IS FOR THE NON-SENIOR RATE. AND ALSO, UH, BECAUSE WASTE MANAGEMENT BELIEVES IN GROWTH, THEY GENEROUSLY INCREASE THEIR COMMUNITY, UH, AND THEIR COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM 7,000 TO $10,000. UM, THIS LAST, UH, BACK IN 2021, AND THIS GOES FOR THE GREEN AWARDS, THE, UH, EARTH DAY SPONSORSHIP AND THE, UM, SCHOLARSHIPS FOR OUR STUDENTS. ALSO, IN 2021, WE IMPLEMENTED A CUSTOMER SERVICE OUTREACH TOOL, UH, THAT, THAT ALLOWS TEXT MESSAGES AND PUSH NOTIFICATIONS TO BE SENT TO RESIDENTS REGARDING THEIR WASTE SERVICES. THE ANNUAL SUBSCRIPTION FOR THIS TOOL IS 15,000, WHICH IS REIMBURSED BY WASTE MANAGEMENT. THIS TOOL HAS PROVEN TO BE A HUGE SUCCESS FOR BOTH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, OUR RESIDENTS. IN JANUARY, 2022, THE AT YOUR DOOR HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE SPECIAL COLLECTION, UH, WAS IMPLEMENTED AND IT REPLACED OUR QUARTERLY HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE EVENTS. UH, THIS, THIS PROGRAM MAKES PARTICIPATION EASY AND CONVENIENT. UH, BASICALLY RESIDENTS CONTACT WASTE MANAGEMENT, THEY RECEIVE A KIT IN THE MAIL, THEY FILL THEIR BAGS WITH THEIR WASTES, UM, THEN THEY SCHEDULE A TIME AND IT'S PICKED UP RIGHT AT THEIR HOME. ALL OF THIS FOR JUST A DOLLAR 45 PER MONTH. ALSO, UH, SINCE THIS PREMIER SERVICE BEGAN, UH, IT HAS DEFINITELY TAKEN CEDAR HILL'S LOVE FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION TO THE NEXT LEVEL, AS WELL AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THE AT YOUR DOOR TEAM HAS PARTICIPATED IN STORY TIME AND OTHER CITY EVENTS SUCH AS THE BLOCK PARTY AND BIG MACHINES EXPO. UH, WE ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO HAVE ONE OF THE DRIVERS COME AND READ TO THE KIDS ONE DAY AT THE LIBRARY. IT WAS VERY SPECIAL. UM, SO THAT, AND, AND ALSO ON THIS SLIDE, IT SHOWS A COUPLE OF SURVEY COMMENTS THAT I'VE RECEIVED, UM, OVER THIS TIME PERIOD THAT BASICALLY PROVES THAT YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB BY IMPLEMENTING [00:40:01] THIS SERVICE. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT, COUNSEL. AND JUST AS A SUMMARY, THESE ARE THE POINT, KEY POINTS FOR OUR CURRENT CONTRACT THAT EXPIRES ON JANUARY 30TH, 2025. AND NOW, UM, AFTER SOME STRONG BUT RESPECTFUL NEGOTIATING BETWEEN, UH, YOUR CITY MANAGER, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND I, WE HAVE BROUGHT THE PROPOSAL DOWN QUITE A BIT FROM 17%. UM, AND I FEEL THAT THE NEW PROPOSAL IS GOING TO BE FAIR AND JUSTIFIED, BUT I WILL LET RYAN EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT. PERFECT. UH, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. UM, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. IT, IT'S ALWAYS AN HONOR TO COME AND SPEAK BEFORE YOU GUYS, AND CERTAINLY, UM, OUR PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN WASTE MANAGEMENT AND THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL IS, IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE VALUE HIGHLY SINCE 2005. UM, SO THIS SLIDE HERE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THE RESULT OF WHAT TIA AND, AND MELISSA BOTH ALLUDED TO, WHICH IS A LOT OF CONVERSATION AND A LOT OF NEGOTIATION. UM, AND REALLY, UM, TIA HIGHLIGHTED THE BENEFITS OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS TO THE CITY, WHICH IS THAT THREE AND A HALF PERCENT FIXED RATE ADJUSTMENT, UH, ON AN ANNUALIZED BASIS. AND THAT REALLY HAS BEEN BECOME KIND OF THE HINDRANCE OR, UM, KIND OF THE, THE CHALLENGE WITH WASTE MANAGEMENT HERE. WE ALL KNOW THE WORD INFLATION. WE, WE ALL UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS. AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD VERY CANDID CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, HEY, THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A NEED TO LOOK AT THE CONTRACT WHEN IT COMES, COMES DUE TO TERM. AND SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A TWO YEAR EXTENSION ON THE TABLE, UM, THAT IS SET TO EXPIRE, I GUESS THE CURRENT TERM SET TO EXPIRE AT THE END OF JANUARY. UM, AND IT WAS, IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE CONTRACT THAT IT WOULD BE A MUTUAL EXTENSION FOR BOTH PARTIES. AND SO I APPROACHED MELISSA, UM, EARLY ON THIS YEAR AND, AND, AND SAID, YOU KNOW, HEY, I, AND AS MUCH AS I'D LOVE TO CONTINUE THE PARTNERSHIP, WE CAN'T DO IT UNDER ITS CURRENT FORM. THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT FIXED IS REALLY KIND OF THE SORE THUMB ON THE TABLE. EVERYTHING ELSE FROM A SERVICE STANDPOINT, UM, THE DONATIONS, ALL, ALL THE THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE GREAT. WE JUST REALLY ARE CONCERNED WITH THE THREE POINT HALF PERCENT FIXED. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS. WE, WE, WE SHOWED, UM, WE DID A LOT OF, A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE SHARING. WE LOOKED AT CPI DATA, UM, AND WHAT'S KIND OF BEEN TRENDING IN THE INDUSTRY IN THE GARBAGE AND TRASH INDEX THAT'S PUT OUT BY THE BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS. UM, WE'VE LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, DFW RATE STUDIES, UM, NOT JUST BY THE CITY'S SURROUNDING CEDAR HILL, BUT ALL ACROSS THE METROPLEX. UM, AND SO WHAT WE DECIDED, UM, IS, IS THIS PROPOSAL HERE. AND SO, UM, WITH THE CURRENT CONTRACT, UH, THERE'S A THREE AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE THAT'S DUE ON OCTOBER 1ST. AND SO WHEN I CAME TO MELISSA AND THE CITY AND, AND PROPOSED THREE DIFFERENT OPTIONS OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE MAYBE, UM, CONSIDERED FOR FUTURE EXTENSION, UM, IT ALSO INCLUDED A RATE ADJUSTMENT ON FEBRUARY 1ST, WHICH IS WHEN THE NEW TERM WOULD GO INTO EFFECT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAD LOOKED AT, UH, TIA HAD ALLUDED TO KIND OF THAT 17% NUMBER WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BLEND IN THE OCTOBER INCREASE, THE FEBRUARY INCREASE IN COMING BACK AROUND TO OCTOBER. AND SO WHAT WE LANDED ON IS WASTE MANAGEMENT. UM, WE ARE GOING TO WITHHOLD THE 3.5%. WE ARE GONNA DISMISS THAT COME OCTOBER 1ST IN EXCHANGE FOR A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION, UH, ON FEBRUARY 1ST, THERE WOULD BE A ONE TIME 10% ADJUSTMENT ACROSS THE BOARD. UH, AND THEN EACH YEAR THEREAFTER, WE WOULD JUST INCREASE RATES BY A FIXED 5%. NOW, THE BENEFIT OF THAT IS WE'RE ABLE TO SET ORDINANCES, WE'RE ABLE TO SET THE RATES AND LEAVE THEM BE FOR FIVE YEARS. UM, BUT THAT, UH, I THINK TIA IS GONNA GO INTO THE NUMBERS HERE IN JUST A MINUTE, WHAT THAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE. BUT, UH, THAT 10% NUMBER WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IS, IS RIGHT WITHIN MARKET STANDARDS. IT ACTUALLY PUTS YOU BELOW SEVERAL OTHER COMPARABLE CITIES, ESPECIALLY WITH THE AMOUNT OF SERVICE THAT YOU'RE GETTING, RIGHT? THE, THE ONCE A WEEK TRASH, THE ONCE A WEEK RECYCLE, THE 10 YARDS OF BULK SERVICE, UM, THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE SERVICE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I THINK THERE'S ONE MORE SLIDE. OH, SORRY. HIT THE BUTTON. PERFECT. UM, AND THEN WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT CEDAR HILL HAS ALWAYS PROMOTED IS COMMUNICATION. AND YOU GUYS, UM, WITH THE FOCUS ON THE RESIDENTS, UM, HAVE REALLY FLOURISHED WITH THIS NEW PROGRAM AND THIS AND THIS TOOL, THE COST OF THOSE OF THIS APPLICATION HAS GONE UP. AND SO AS A RESULT, WE ARE UPPING OUR, UM, REIMBURSEMENT BACK TO THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CONTINUE TO GET THE PARTICIPATION THAT WE NEED TO KEEP UP WITH HEALTHY COMMUNICATIONS. [00:45:01] AND I'M GONNA TURN IT BACK OVER TO TIA WHO'S GONNA TALK THROUGH, UH, THE RATES. YES. NOW, AT THIS TIME, I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, PRESENT A COUPLE OF RATE TO CITIZEN OPTIONS. UH, THIS FIRST ONE IS OPTION ONE. SO THERE'S NO CHANGES TO CURRENT RESIDENTIAL SERVICES. UH, THIS, THIS ONE IS SIMPLY A PASS THROUGH. UH, IT'S OUR CURRENT RATE MODEL. ANYTIME WE'VE EXPERIENCED AN AN INCREASE, WE JUST SIMPLY PASS THAT INCREASE OVER TO THE RESIDENT. SO, AND THIS IS WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. UH, SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED? OPTION TWO IS BASICALLY OPTION ONE PLUS AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT. SO, UH, IN COMPARISON, UH, THIS OPTION TWO COULD BASICALLY JUST FOR THE YEAR 2025 ONLY THERE WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL INCREASE ON TOP OF THE CPI, UH, INCREASE. AND THIS WOULD GENERATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO THE BEAUTIFICATION FUND IN THE AMOUNT OF APPROXIMATELY $257,000. AND THAT WOULD BE GO TOWARDS ENHANCED AESTHETICS THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. UM, AND OPTION TWO WOULD ALSO, UH, JUST BRING THAT SURCHARGE FROM $3 AND 32 CENTS WITH OPTION ONE TO $4 AND 32 CENTS WITH OPTION TWO. AND JUST AS A SIDE BY SIDE, UH, THIS IS THE SAME COMPARISON OF WHERE WE ARE FROM TODAY'S, TODAY'S CURRENT RATE WITH OPTION ONE VERSUS OPTION TWO. SO AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, SMALL SLIGHT DIFFERENCE THAT CAN MAKE A HUGE CHANGE IN OUR COMMUNITY AND GIVE US THAT EXTRA, UM, UH, CONTINGENCY TO OFFSET FUNDS IN THE EVENT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO INCREASE TRASH AND MOWING SERVICES OR, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE AN INCLEMENT WEATHER THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, HELP CITIZENS OUT WITH THINGS LIKE THAT. UM, AND, AND EVEN AT $4 AND 32 CENTS SURCHARGE, THAT IS STILL MUCH LOWER THAN OUR, UH, SURROUNDING CITIES. AND AS A SENIOR RATE, HERE'S THE COMPARISON FOR THAT. THERE IS A SLIGHT DIFFERENCE AGAIN. UM, CURRENTLY OUR SENIORS RECEIVE A $4 AND 12 CENT DISCOUNT FROM THE NON SENIOR RATE. AND WITH OPTION TWO, THE SENIORS WOULD BE ACTUALLY GETTING A DISCOUNT OF $4 AND 53 CENTS. AND SO THAT IS WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. SO NOW YOU HAVE SEEN WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE ARE AND WHERE WE COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, AND WHICH MEANS I'M SEEKING DIRECTION ON THE FOLLOWING ITEMS, A FIVE-YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION, AND A SELECTION OF WHICH OPTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. UH, AND WITH REGARDS TO RATES TO CITIZENS AND SPECIFICALLY THE ADDITIONAL, UH, THE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WOULD GO TOWARDS, UH, INCREASED HIGHWAY 67 TRASH AND MOWING FREQUENCY ENHANCED, UH, INTERSECTIONS AT MAJOR THROWAWAYS AND ANY OTHER BEAUTIFICATION IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE MAY SEE FIT. UM, IF ALL IS OKAY, THEN, UH, THE WASTE MANAGEMENT APPROVAL AND ORDINANCE WILL BE ON THE, UH, CITY COUNCIL AGENDA FOR OCTOBER 22ND. ALRIGHT. UM, FOR MR. FRAZIER, UM, YOU KNOW, I RECALL THAT THERE WAS A TIME WHERE YOUR PREDECESSOR, STEVE KELLER, USED TO COME AND, AND TELL US THAT HE GOES EVERYWHERE AND TELL EVERYBODY HOW WONDERFUL CEDAR HILL IS AND HOW IT'S HIS FAVORITE CITY. AND I AIN'T REALLY FEELING THAT LOVE FROM YOU, . I, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST COME UP HERE AND SAY, WE'VE BEEN HERE WITH CEDAR HILL FOR A WHILE, BUT STEVE KELLY USED TO LET US FEEL SO LOVED, SO WARM. SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS I'M CONSIDERING THIS . UM, BUT, UH, SERIOUSLY, I I, I DO WANT TO, UM, TAKE A MOMENT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I DON'T KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT THERE WAS SOME, UH, HEAVY WIND, I THINK, I DON'T KNOW, 50, 60 MILE AN HOUR WIND THAT CAME THROUGH OUR CITY, CEDAR HILL, WE KNOWN FOR TREES, UH, BUT YOU GUYS CAME SWIFTLY AND, AND, AND GOT IT PICKED UP. UH, SO I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK A WHILE FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE. BUT HERE IN CEDAR HILL, UH, YOUR TEAM CAME AND, AND, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, TRIED TO PICK IT UP EX EXPEDITIOUSLY. SO I APPRECIATE THAT. UM, AND THEN ALSO, I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, BUT THERE'S A, A COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, LAPSE. YOU HAD TO FIGURE OUT THIS NEW WAY OF TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE, UH, WITH OUR CITIZENS. AND I HAVE SEEN THAT THAT HAS MADE SOME MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS. SO IT, IT APPEARS THAT EVERY TIME WE ASK YOU TO DO SOMETHING, IT MIGHT FEEL LIKE IT'S A MOUNTAIN OF A, OF A REQUEST, BUT YOU GUYS ALWAYS SEEM TO, UH, TO, TO MEET THOSE, UM, THOSE, THOSE DEMANDS, LIKE I'M GONNA CALL IT DEMANDS . I TRY TO MEET THOSE DEMANDS IN ORDER FOR OUR CITIZENS. SO, YOU KNOW, OVERALL I THINK THE SATISFACTION CITYWIDE IS, IS, UH, IS A PLUS. BUT, UH, I JUST WANNA TELL YOU, THANK YOU [00:50:01] FOR YOUR SERVICE. SO IN THAT, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, BUT GO AHEAD. YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE KIND WORDS, THE, THE ADMIRATION IS THERE. BELIEVE ME, , UH, STEVE FOR SEVERAL YEARS HAS TRIED TO GET ME TO WEAR THE COWBOY HAT, AND I JUST, I CAN'T DO IT. I CAN'T DO IT. SO, UM, STEVE WILL APPRECIATE THIS. HE'LL, I'LL HE'LL GET A KICK OUT OF THAT, BUT I, MAYBE I NEED TO BE MORE CHARISMATIC. I, YOU KNOW, I JUST TRY TO KEEP IT PROFESSIONAL UP HERE, I GUESS. BUT YES, YOU, YOU KNOW, THE LOVES THERE. THANK YOU. I HOPE I WAS JUST TEASING YOU. SO LET'S BEGIN WITH CUSTOMER HAYDEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOW, I, I FEEL THAT LOVE RYAN AND, AND, AND I THINK WE, WE DO BECAUSE OF HOW YOU'VE RESPONDED AND, AND WHAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE, THE MAYOR HAD SAID ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES THAT WE HAD WITH THE, WITH THE HIGH WINDS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, WASTE MANAGE HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR US. AND SO, UH, I'M, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE, THE NEGOTIATED CONTRACT, NUMBER ONE AND THE EXTENSION. BUT I ALSO WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT I WAS REALLY EXCITED ABOUT OPTION TWO BECAUSE WE'VE HAD OVER THE YEARS, MULTIPLE TIMES IN DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WANTING TO KEEP CEDAR HILL BEAUTIFUL. AND THAT'S PART OF OUR, OUR, UH, SAYING TO BE A PREMIER CITY. AND, AND BECAUSE OF SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WASTE MANAGEMENT, EXCUSE ME, HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WE WERE ABLE TO START SOME OF THE MOWING AND STUFF ON 67, BUT, EXCUSE ME. BUT I THINK AT THIS POINT NOW, THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT OF BIGGER EFFORT WITH REGARDS TO CLEANING THE, THE, OUR CITY LOOKING AT THE 67 AND THE MOWING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. SO, SO THIS IS A, I THINK A REAL, UH, PRUDENT PLAN PUT TOGETHER BY CITY MANAGER AND, AND, UH, AND WASTE MANAGEMENT TO TRY TO HELP US WITH THAT AND TO, AND TO, UH, TO HAVE ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO HELP CLEAN THE CITY. SO, SO I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT OPTION. I LOVE NUMBER TWO, AND I THINK THE CITIZENS WILL BENEFIT GREATLY FROM IT. SO, ALL RIGHT. COUNCILOR MCCURDY, CODY. SO I, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. I'VE GOT, UH, ONE, RYAN, I GOT ONE, ONE FOR YOU, AND I GOT A, A COUPLE FOR, FOR TIA AS WELL. UM, SO DOES WASTE MANAGEMENT, DO YOU GUYS CHARGE US A DIFFERENT RATE FOR SENIORS THAN WHAT YOU CHARGE US FOR REGULAR CUSTOMERS? YES. CORRECT. OKAY. AND SO THE, I GUESS THEY GO THROUGH TO OUR STAFF TO, TO GET, DO THE VERIFICATION THAT THEY'RE A SENIOR AND ENTITLED TO YES. TO THE SENIOR RATE. YES. OUR, OUR STAFF DOES. OKAY. AND, AND SO I, I NOTICED WE HAVE A PREMIUM TODAY THAT, THAT, THAT WE RECEIVE ABOVE WHAT WASTE MANAGEMENT CHARGES US PER, PER HOUSEHOLD. WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THAT? WHERE DO THOSE FUNDS GO TODAY? UM, CURRENTLY, UH, IN THE BEAUTIFICATION FUND, UH, THAT CAN GO TOWARDS, UH, UM, THINGS MELISSA CAN BETTER EXPLAIN, I'M SURE. YES. SO, UM, WE'VE USED THOSE FUNDS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. EVERY MONUMENT ENTRY MONUMENT, UM, THE PARKS, UM, ENTRY MONUMENTS AT ALL THE PARKS, REMEMBER THE DESIGN WE PUT TOGETHER, ALL OF THOSE WERE PAID FOR THROUGH THE LANDSCAPE BEAUTIFICATION FUND, BUT CURRENTLY IT PAYS FOR ADDITIONAL MOWINGS. YOU KNOW, TXDOT ONLY DOES TWICE A YEAR MOWINGS ON HIGHWAY 67, RIGHT? AND SO, BECAUSE IT'S A DANGEROUS JOB OFF OF HIGHWAY 67, WE HIRE CONTRACTORS TO DO THAT WORK. AND THOSE ARE DONE MONTHLY IN THE HEAVIER SEASON, BUT WE ALSO DO ADDITIONAL LITTER CLEANUPS EVERY OTHER WEEK AND WITH THESE FUNDS. OKAY. AND, AND I KNOW THAT, AND, AND MAYBE THIS MIGHT SOUND A LITTLE PETTY AND I, 'CAUSE I I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WASTE, YOU KNOW, THE PORTION OF, OF THE BILLS THAT, THAT OUR CITIZENS GET IS NOT, YOU KNOW, IS NOT A HUGE PART. BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING MORE AND MORE FROM PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE BEING, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY'RE BEING SQUEEZED BEYOND THEIR ABILITY TO PAY FOR THINGS. AND, AND I'M, I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH THEM EATING ANOTHER 10% INCREASE IN, IN YEAR ONE ON THIS DEAL. AND THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADDING ANOTHER PERCENTAGE ON TOP OF THAT SO THAT WE CAN, AND, AND I UNDERSTAND WE WANT, WE HAVE BEAUTIFICATION WE WANNA PAY FOR IN THE CITY. UM, BUT I'M ACTUALLY THINKING, YOU KNOW, OPTION THREE SHOULD BE WE REDUCE SOME OF THE, THE PREMIUM THAT WE CHARGE IN THE FIRST YEAR ON THAT BILL. AND I REALIZE THAT MAY MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO CUT SOME SERVICES, BUT WE'RE SQUEEZING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE WATER IS GOING UP, WASTE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT IS GOING UP EXPONENTIALLY. UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COST TO PROVIDE PUBLIC SAFETY IS GOING UP EVERY YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, ANYBODY THAT'S BEEN AT THE GROCERY STORE LATELY KNOWS, YOU KNOW, A CARTON OF EGGS AIN'T 99 CENTS ANYMORE. AND SO IT, IT, AT SOME POINT WE'VE, WE'VE GOT TO, TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE, WHERE ARE WE GONNA GIVE SOME RELIEF TO, TO OUR TAXPAYERS AS WELL? SO I, I, I WOULD SAY OPTION, THERE [00:55:01] SHOULD BE AN OPTION THREE HERE, WHICH IS MAYBE FOR YEAR ONE, ESPECIALLY IF WE'RE SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU GUYS ARE BEHIND THE EIGHT BALL ON, ON YOUR RATES, MAYBE IN YEAR ONE, WE, WE SHOULDN'T, NOT ONLY SHOULD WE NOT ADD AN ADDITIONAL PREMIUM ON THERE, MAYBE WE SHOULD SEE IF WE CAN'T HELP RE MAYBE REDUCE OUR PREMIUM A LITTLE BIT TO KIND OF STABILIZE THAT RATE A LOT MORE. AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUALLY, IT'S NOT A LOT OF MONEY, BUT ALL THESE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONLY $5 A MONTH. IT, IT'S ONLY $3 A MONTH. IT, IT, IT STARTS ADDING UP. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I I THINK WE HAVE JUST AS MUCH RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE BEING JUDICIOUS WITH, WITH, WITH PEOPLE'S MONEY AS WE DO, AS THE SERVICES THAT WE, WE PROVIDE. AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST VERY CONSCIENTIOUS ABOUT HOW OUR CITIZENS ARE BEING SQUEEZED, UM, FINANCIALLY AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION AS WE, AS WE'RE SETTING RATES. THANK YOU. MCCURDY. COUNCILWOMAN AZI. THANK YOU. MY, UH, MY COMMENTS WERE ACTUALLY SIMILAR TO THOSE OF, UH, COUNCILMAN, UH, MCCURDY. UM, UNLIKE OUR MAYOR RYAN, I DON'T NEED TO FEEL THE WARM FUZZIES , BUT I DO WANNA, UH, TRY TO UNDERSTAND, UH, THIS BETTER. AND SO I'M GLAD THAT WE HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. 'CAUSE I DO WANNA DO, UM, A, A DEEP DIVE, NOT, NOT THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE STAFF'S WORK, BUT JUST TO, JUST TO BETTER UNDERSTAND IT UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, UH, THE COMPARISONS OF THE OTHER CITIES, UM, SINCE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT WORK. THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. UM, AND THEN, UM, I HAD TO NOTE, UM, THE, THE INCREASE TO THE, TO THE, THE SENIORS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, YOU KNOW, TOTAL INCREASE OVER THE FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, INCREMENTALLY IT MAY NOT SEEM LIKE MUCH, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A HUGE INCREASE. AND I KNOW THAT IN MY, YOU KNOW, MY FORMAL LIFE OF FORMER LIFE OF CONTRACTS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I WOULD EVER, UM, ACCEPT. AND ESPECIALLY THAT FIRST BIG JUMP. AND I UNDERSTAND WE'RE DOING A LITTLE BIT OF A CATCH UP, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BLENDED RATE AND NOT SO MUCH OF A HUGE JUMP. UM, AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMAN GLOVER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, A QUESTION IN A COMMENT. HOW LONG HAVE WE BEEN TOGETHER? CONTINUOUSLY WASTE MANAGEMENT IN THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL. 19 YEARS. 19 YEARS. MM-HMM. . SO THIS WILL TAKE US ALMOST TO 2024, ALMOST 25 MM-HMM. . UM, SUNDAY MORNING. I WAS SURPRISED TO WAKE UP AND SEE THAT DAK PRESCOTT SIGNED A VERY LUCRATIVE CONTRACT, $60 MILLION FOR OVER FOUR YEARS. IF HE HAD JUST MAINTAINED HIS EXISTING, HIS PREVIOUS PERFORMANCE, HE WOULD'VE BEEN A FREE AGENT AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND AVAILABLE TO PLAY FOR ANY OTHER TEAM. SO IT'S VERY CONCEIVABLE THAT HE WOULD'VE MADE MORE THAN WHAT HE'S MAKING NOW. I VALUE US GETTING TO THE END OF OUR CONTRACT AND BEING A FREE AGENT AND SEEING WHAT THE MARKET PLAYS. I TRUST OUR CITY STAFF. I'VE HEARD OF THE, THE COST OF THAT IT TAKES TO DO WHAT THIS PROCESS FROM THE R RF QS AND CHANGING TRASH BINS. I STILL THINK THAT I STILL HAVE AN SBC GLOBAL EMAIL. IT WASN'T UNTIL I WAS OUT OF CONTRACT WITH AT AND T THAT I SAW RATE RELIEF SWITCHING BACK BEFORE, BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN SPECTRUM FOR TWO YEARS. AND AT AND T PART OF ME THINKS THAT THERE'S SOME WAY FOR US TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF RATE RELIEF OR A BETTER OPPORTUNITY WHEN WE ARE A FREE AGENT AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO HEAR FROM ANY OF THE OTHER, UM, WASTE MANAGEMENT PROVIDERS. SO I, I, I ALSO ECHO THE CONCERN IF I'M ON THE FIXED INCOME AND IT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS THIS MONTH, JUST ROUND FIGURES, 2030, IT'S $130. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT AN AGGREGATE OF A 30% INCREASE OVER THAT PERIOD OF TIME. AND I UNDERSTAND COSTS HAVE GONE UP, UM, FROM WITH EVERY INDUSTRY. I, I JUST THINK THERE'S A VALUE TO SEEING WHAT THE MARKET CAN BEAR. AND IF THIS IS THE BEST CONTRACT, THEN THIS IS THE BEST CONTRACT. BUT IF ANOTHER CONTRACT IS ONLY 20% OVER THE NEXT, ANOTHER PROVIDER IS 20% OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, AND THEN FIVE YEARS FROM THERE, WE SWITCH TO ANOTHER PROVIDER THAT GOES 20 WHEN THE MARKET IS DOING 30, THEN THAT WILL KEEP MONEY FOR, THAT WILL HELP DEFRAY THE COST OF OUR CITIZENS. SO THAT'S JUST MY OBSERVATION IN COMMON. IT'S NOT ABOUT THE SERVICE. YOU'VE DONE EXCELLENT JOBS WITHIN OUR CITY AS, AS THE MAYOR HAS MENTIONED WITH, UM, ANY CATASTROPHE. YOU'VE BEEN THERE [01:00:01] AND WE, WE, SO WE APPRECIATE THAT AS A CITY. BUT FINANCIALLY, I'M THINKING WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE? THAT'S JUST MY, MY 2 CENTS. OKAY. PRO TIM SIMS. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO I GOT TWO UNDERRATED QUESTIONS. UH, ONE, GOING BACK TO THIS HOUSEHOLD ACTIONS RAISED IN THE FEE, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY OF OUR HOUSEHOLDS HAVE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF THIS? BECAUSE THERE'S A FEE THAT'S BEING CHARGED TO EVERYBODY, CORRECT? MM-HMM. . UM, YES. HOW MANY ARE ACTUALLY USING IT? A LOT. I, I IT TIME TO TRY TO USE IT AND I WAS ENCOURAGED TO WAIT AND COMPILE ALL MY STUFF TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK I GOT WAS, WELL, AGAIN, WATCHING GREG GET IT ALL TOGETHER, UH, INSTEAD OF DOING A LITTLE BIT NOW AND A LITTLE BIT LATER. SO THAT'S, THAT WAS A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT, SO I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW MUCH THAT'S BEING UTILIZED. UM, I DO HAVE THE, UH, THERE'S ABOUT 80 STOPS PER MONTH. AN AVERAGE OF 80 STOPS IN CEDAR HILL PER MONTH. SO 80 CUSTOMERS PER MONTH. PER MONTH. HOW MANY CUSTOMERS? UM, AROUND 15,000. 300 ISH. YEAH. SO 80 OUT 15,000. IT'S JUST A SMALL PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE THAT ARE BENEFITING FROM SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY'S, THAT'S SOMETHING, IT SEEMS LIKE AGENCIES LIKE A LOT, BUT WE GOT 15,000 CUSTOMERS, 15,000 PAYING FOR THE 80. THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I HAVE CHEW ON FOR SOME REASON. THAT, AND THEN, UM, SO MY PERCEPTION IS THE LAST CONTRACT YOU CAME UP SHUT AND WE HAD A CPI NOT RENTED. AND THE ACTUAL COSTS WERE ABOVE THAT. AND MY, I I'M TRYING TO BE SENSITIVE ON HOW, BUT YOU AGREE THAT, AND NOW I'M SEEING YOU TRYING TO RECOVER WHAT YOU LOST AS A BUSINESS. SOMETIMES THE BUSINESSES MAKE AGREEMENTS TO, UH, WE'RE GONNA SAVE THIS PRODUCT OR THE SERVICE FOR THIS. IF IT COMES UP SHARP, IT MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT UNCOMFORTABLE THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO THE NEXT COVER BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DO SO WELL ON LAST CONTRACT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M PICKING UP HERE. TELL ME THIS LONG. UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WE LOOK AT CPI, RIGHT? THE GARBAGE AND TRASH INDEX, UM, THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WE'VE, WHEN WE LOOK BACK AT THOSE PERCENTAGES, THOSE ARE COSTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY INCURRED OUR BUSINESS OVER THE LAST 12 MONTHS. AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU'RE RIGHT. WE, WE FELL SHORT ON THE LAST NEGOTIATION. AND, AND AGAIN, CREDIT TO, TO CEDAR HILL, IT, IT WAS A, IT WAS A GOOD DEAL. UM, NOBODY KNEW AT THE TIME WHAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN WITH INFLATION. AND WE ALL KNOW THE STORY THERE. I DON'T NEED TO GO INTO CONTEXT, BUT WHEN, WHEN OUR CONTRACTS COME TO TERM, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT'S KIND OF OUR ONE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO RIGHT SIZE OUR POSITION. AND WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT RATE IS WHAT, WHAT WE CONSIDER A BEST VALUE FOR CEDAR HILL, RIGHT? IF THAT ALLOWS US TO CONTINUE TO DO THE RIGHT WORK IN YOUR CITY MAINTENANCE, OUR TRUCKS EMPLOY OUR FOLKS. UM, WE BELIEVE WE HAVE THE BEST DRIVERS IN THE INDUSTRY. UH, WE PAY THEM A VERY COMPETITIVE WAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP A CONSISTENT, YOU KNOW, GUYS ON THE TRUCKS. AND SO THERE'S ALL THOSE THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY. ABSOLUTELY. WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE UP FOR LOST TIME TO SOME DEGREE. NOT SO MUCH THAT WE'RE GONNA GO RECUR, RE RECOUP ALL OF OUR COSTS. THOSE COSTS ARE, ARE GONE. THAT'S WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE BECAUSE YOU'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP AND RECOVER SOME LOST . I MEAN, BUT I'M JUST FEELING LIKE THAT'S A DECISION THAT WAS MADE AND, YOU KNOW, YEAH. BUT WE'RE, WE CAN'T RECOUP THOSE COSTS. THOSE COSTS ARE GONE. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS ESTABLISH A NEW BASELINE TO SAY, THIS IS WHERE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE OPERATING ON A GO FORWARD BASIS. THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT, YOU KNOW, STATISTICALLY, THIS IS WHERE WE SHOULD BE BASED ON HOW THINGS HAVE TRENDED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS. AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S HOW WE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER. UM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS FOR A WHILE. WE'VE, WE'VE GONE BACK AND LOOKED AT SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE FOREGOING THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT THAT'S OWED TO US CONTRACTUALLY ON OCTOBER 1ST IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS. AND THIS IS WHAT WE FEEL IS LESS IMPACTFUL OVER, YOU KNOW, VERSUS MULTIPLE, UH, INCREASES OVER OVER A 12 MONTH PERIOD. SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE HOW WE CAME TO IT. WE FEEL LIKE THE 10% OUT OF THE GATE REESTABLISHES KIND OF, UH, A GOOD BASELINE THAT ALLOWS US TO OPERATE AND STAY HEALTHY SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO [01:05:01] GOOD WORK, PROVIDE GREAT SERVICE FOR THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, AND THEN THE 5% THEREAFTER IS WHAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH BASED ON, YOU KNOW, STATISTICALLY HOW THINGS HAVE BEEN TRENDING. SO I I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN. IT, IT IS, IT IS CERTAINLY A TALL TASK OR, OR A TALL ASK RATHER. UM, THE 3.5% OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, WE'VE, WE'VE LOST THAT. THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA GO RECOUP. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE CONCERNED RIGHT NOW ABOUT, HEY, HOW DO WE SET OURSELVES UP FOR SUCCESS TO CONTINUE THIS PARTNERSHIP AND, AND MAKE SURE IT'S A STRONG PARTNERSHIP, UH, NOT JUST IN YEAR ONE, BUT THROUGHOUT THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. THANK YOU PROTE. COUNCILMAN MALONE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST GOT TWO QUESTIONS, POSSIBLE OPTIONS. FIRST, UM, KIND OF AS MAYOR PROTE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD HARRIS AS WASTE PICK UP AT THE DOOR. UM, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NUMBERS OF HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY IN THE CITY AND HOW MANY PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AND, AND I MYSELF CANNOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT BECAUSE OF THE WAY MY HOUSE IS SITUATED. BUT, UM, IS THERE ANY OPTION OR WAY IF A CITIZEN DOES NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT, AND I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT THERE, THAT EVENTUALLY THEIR FEE CAN BE WAIVED IF IT, IF THEY WENT TWO OR THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING, THEY'VE NEVER UTILIZED THIS, ARE THEY ABLE TO NOT HAVE TO PAY THAT FEE? AND THEN ALSO, UM, THE SECOND QUESTION IS, AS WE GROW AS A CITY, IS THERE GONNA BE, ARE, ARE THERE ALREADY SOME TYPE OF DISCOUNT THAT'S IN THE, THE PROGRAM AS FAR AS LIKE THE MORE HOUSES WE GET, WE GET A DISCOUNT PER SE, SOME KIND OF WAY 'CAUSE WE HAVE MORE DENSITY IN THE CITY. UH, SO WE, WE HAVE NOT UNPACKED THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. I THINK THEY'RE GOOD QUESTIONS. UM, REGARDING THE RATES. SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE, UH, I GUESS PRICE THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE COST OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM IN THE CITY. AND SO THE, THE OPTION THAT WE CHOSE AT THE TIME WAS TO SPREAD IT OUT OVER ALL THE DIFFERENT RESIDENTS BECAUSE IT IS AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS, RIGHT? AND SO, UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, EACH MONTH YOU CAN USE IT UNLIMITED, UM, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A ONE-TIME COLLECTION OR, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TIMES A YEAR. YOU'VE GOT THOSE OPTIONS AS, AS A RESIDENT. CEDARVILLE ACTUALLY TAKES, UM, THEY, THEY'VE GOT REALLY STRONG PARTICIPATION RATES COMPARATIVE TO OTHER CITIES. YOU GUYS ACTUALLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE PROGRAM AND IT'S VERY BENEFICIAL. NOW, WHEN WE ROLLED THIS OUT, THIS WAS THREE YEARS AGO, THIS WAS REPLACING THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE DRIVES THAT THE CITY WAS DOING AND SOME OF THE COSTS THAT THE CITY WAS INCURRING. AND SO THERE'S A LIABILITY ASPECT AND THAT WE'RE KIND OF TAKING OVER THE COMPONENT OF THAT RUNNING THE ROUTES. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW IT'S PRICED OUT TODAY. WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD IF WE WANTED TO, TO LOOK AT THAT. RIGHT NOW. THERE'S NOT AN OPT-OUT OPTION. IT'S, IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL INCLUSIVE BECAUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF THE COST OF RUNNING THE PROGRAM ITSELF. UM, AS FAR AS THE PARTICIPATION PIECE, UM, WE CAN LOOK AT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY I HAVE NOT EXPLORED THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN SPEAK TO THAT VERY WELL HERE TONIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN GO, YOU KNOW, GET WITH THE TEAM ON AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON IF, IF, UH, THAT'S AN OPTION. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT, UH, IT'S A GREAT, GREAT SERVICE TO OUR CITIZENS. I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE BEST BOARD WHEN WE DID THAT. SO YEAH, I WAS JUST SAYING AS FAR AS CITIZENS, 'CAUSE THE NUMBER IS GREAT THAT DO NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT. IS THERE AN OPTION THAT WE CAN LOOK AT TO POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE OPT THEM OUT AFTER SO MANY YEARS OR SOMETHING? THANK YOU. YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. WELL, THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR THE DELIBERATION. UH, A FEW COMMENTS FROM ME AND, AND THEN WE'LL CLOSE IT OUT WITH OUR, UH, CITY MANAGER. UM, I GUESS I, I GUESS WITH ME, UM, THE HOUSEHOLD HAS IT, ITS WASTE. I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S FAIRLY STILL A NEW CONCEPT. SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS, BUT SEEING THAT 80 CUSTOMERS PER MONTH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE SAME CUSTOMERS OR YEAH, A A LITTLE MIX, BUT, UH, I, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE MARKETING, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE UTILIZED MORE, WHO KNOWS? BUT IT'S STILL NEW. SO, UH, MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE TIME AND MAYBE THAT MIGHT INCREASE. UM, YOU KNOW, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, THE TIMING, UM, OF, OF BEING A FREE AGENT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF BEEN POKING AROUND IN OTHER CITIES. UM, THEY'RE, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE USING, UM, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT USERS, PRO PROPRIETARY AND, UM, THE, UH, THEY, THEY'RE NOT USING THE NATURAL GAS THAT WE ASKED FOR , YOU KNOW, UH, SO WE ASKED FOR CLEANER AIR WITHIN OUR, WITHIN OUR VEHICLES. UM, THEY'D ALSO, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UH, MULTIPLE DAYS OF SERVICE. SO WE ASK THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME AND PICK UP ON ONE DAY SERVICE. UH, BUT WE ALSO HAVE BOTH TRASH AND, AND RECYCLE. SO, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT, AT TOGETHER AT THE WHOLE PACKAGE, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEARS IT'S BEEN AT THREE AND A HALF FIXED. UM, AND UH, YOU'RE ASKING TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, CEDAR HILL, I CAN'T CONTINUE TO KEEP DOING THAT ANYMORE AS WE COMING UP TO THIS RENEWAL. YOU KNOW, CAN WE DO THIS MUCH? UM, I'M [01:10:01] AFRAID IF WE GO OUT TO THE MARKET COUNSEL, AND I'VE REALLY HAVE BEEN CONTEMPLATING ABOUT THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT NUMBER IS NOT GONNA BE A 10% INCREASE. IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, I THINK IN ABOUT ANOTHER FIVE YEARS. THIS IS MY OPINION, WITHOUT REALLY LOOKING CLOSER TO THE DETAILS, UH, I THINK WE'LL BE IN BETTER POSITION TO BE, UH, LOOKING AT THOSE NUMBERS AS HOPE AS, AS FIVE YEARS WE'LL PROBABLY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLOSER TO OUR CITIZENS. BUT WITH THE TYPE OF SERVICE, WITH THE TYPE OF, UH, RESOURCES TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE HAVE RECEIVING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR COMPETITORS ARE USING. UH, THE SERVICE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SAY IS PROBABLY NOT AS, AS GREAT. AND THEY ARE BEING CHARGED. THE CITIZENS ARE BEING CHARGED A LOT MORE. SO I JUST KIND OF WANT YOU TO KIND OF JUST KEEP THAT, YOU KNOW, IN MIND. UM, MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE SOME DATA AS COUNCILWOMAN AZI ASKED, I THINK YOU DID PROVIDE SOME COMPARISONS. MM-HMM. . UM, BUT, UM, I THINK THE COMPARISONS YOU HAD IN HERE, I THINK YOU SAW SOMETHING IN HERE ABOUT CURB. LET ME GO BACK. THERE'S SOME, AN ALLEY, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RECYCLE, UM, THE RECYCLE BINS OR TRASH BINS. HOW MANY DAYS OF SERVICE. I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT INTO IT. I THINK STAFF DID A GOOD JOB OF KIND OF BEATING YOU DOWN. 'CAUSE I KNOW YOUR NUMBER WAS HIGHER. UH, BUT, UH, THANKS FOR THE NEGOTIATIONS AND THIS IS KIND OF THE MEDIAN THAT, THAT YOU CAME TO. UH, BUT I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW, COUNCIL KNOW, I KNOW YOU ASKED SOME GREAT QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE THE DELIBERATION. UH, BUT I'VE ACTUALLY CONSIDERED IT. UH, BUT I THINK IN FIVE YEARS WE'LL PROBABLY BE IN A BETTER POSITION TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT TO THE STREET. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. I KNOW WE ARE GONNA GET CONSENSUS, BUT, UH, CITY MANAGER, YOU HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS AND THEN WE'LL GO TO A COUNCIL MEETING. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A FEW NOTES ABOUT THE HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE JUST FOR A MINUTE. UM, THE REASON WHY WE DO HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE IS BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, THEN THAT WASTE, LIKE GREASE PAINT THINGS GO IN THE TRASH, UH, TRUCK AND THEN IT LEAKS ON OUR STREETS. AND EVERY RESIDENT HAS TO PAY FOR THAT CLEANUP REGARDLESS. AND SO BEFORE WE BEGAN THE HOUSEHOLD HATCH WASTE AT YOUR DOOR SERVICE, WE USED TO HAVE QUARTERLY EVENTS AND RESIDENTS USED TO HAVE TO PUT THEIR STUFF IN THEIR TRUNK AND BRING IT TO THE QUARTERLY EVENT. AND ON AVERAGE, I RECALL, A HUNDRED AND 120 PEOPLE PER QUARTER USED TO UTILIZE THAT SERVICE. THE CITY WAS CHARGED FOR THAT SERVICE AT $60 PER HOUSEHOLD. AND IT DIDN'T MATTER IF YOU BROUGHT ONE PAINT, A CAN, CAN OF PAINT OR 50 CANS OF PAINT. AND MOST PEOPLE ONLY BROUGHT MAYBE FIVE TO TEN FIVE CANS OF PAINT. AND SO THE SERVICE THAT THE COUNCIL INITIATED THREE YEARS AGO WAS REALLY BASED ON, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR CITIZENS TO UTILIZE THAT SERVICE AT THEIR DOOR AND PUT IT IN A BAG AND MAKE IT EASY TO DIVERT IT FROM THE STREETS THAT WE WOULD END UP HAVING TO CLEAN UP ANYWAYS AND COULD POTENTIALLY GO INTO OUR WATER SYSTEMS. AND THEN IT'S ULTIMATELY A HAZARD TO EVERYBODY. AND SO THAT'S REALLY THE BENEFIT. MOST CITIES PROVIDE THIS SERVICE EITHER QUARTERLY OR AT YOUR DOOR. MOST CITIES PROVIDE QUARTERLY. WE CAN LOOK AT THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THAT, BUT REGARDLESS, THE CITIZENS HAVE TO PAY FOR IT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. MM-HMM, THE OTHER THING THAT I WANNA MENTION IS THAT I KNOW THE 10% SEEMS HIGH, UM, BUT 10% ON THE BASE NUMBER IS REALLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT. IF YOU DO 10% ON $150, THAT'S $15, 10% ON THIS RAISE A DOLLAR 50 A MONTH. AND SO, UM, I DO, UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET SOME KIND OF COUNCIL, CITY COUNCIL DIRECTION ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD EITHER ON A, DO WE BEGIN NEGOTIATING A TWO YEAR EXTENSION TO THE CONTRACT OR WE GOOD WITH A FIVE YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION, BECAUSE THAT WILL INVOLVE BOTH UPDATING THE CONTRACT AND UPDATING THE ORDINANCE FOR THE RATES. MM-HMM. , BECAUSE THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT AGENDA ITEMS, AND THEN WE'LL PUT THAT BEFORE YOU FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR FINAL CONSIDERATION. UH, AS IT RELATES TO OPTION TWO, UH, OTHER THAN THE PRICE, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT, WAS THERE SOMETHING, UH, THAT WAS DIFFERENT WITH THE OPTION ONE THAT WE WOULD'VE BEEN GETTING? I, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE DIS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE, WHAT THE CONTRAST WAS BETWEEN ONE AND TWO. UH, TWO IS, UH, IS BASICALLY THE SAME AS ONE. IT, IT WOULD BE THE 10% CPI PLUS AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT, UM, TWO SERVICES, UH, THAT WOULD CREATE A MORE STRATEGIC AND SUSTAINABLE FUND FOR THE BEAUTIFICATION FUND. OH, GOTCHA. MM-HMM, . OKAY. ALRIGHT. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MENTION THAT ONE THING THAT WOULD SOLVE ONE OF OUR BIG ISSUES IS PEOPLE LITTERING IN CEDAR HILL. UNFORTUNATELY, HIGHWAY 67 IS LITTERED VERY HEAVILY, AND WE USE ALL A LOT OF THESE FUNDS, UM, SEVERAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF THESE FUNDS TO PAY FOR A LITTER CLEANUP, UM, ESPECIALLY ON HIGHWAY 67, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY, VERY DANGEROUS JOB TO GO OUT THERE AND CLEAN UP ALONG HIGHWAY 67. AND WE HIRE CONTRACTORS TO DO THAT. AND I, AND I DIDN'T MENTION THIS EARLIER, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOUR INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS THAT YOU DO EVERY YEAR. MM-HMM, . UM, I, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. SO, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, YOU AND STAFF HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND YOU HAVE RETAINED THAT. SO THANK YOU. UH, COUNSEL, WE ARE LOOKING FOR SOME TYPE OF DIRECTION. COUNCILOR HAYDEN. SO YES, MAYOR, JUST, UH, UM, I JUST WANT TO INDICATE THAT, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHAT, UH, MAYOR SAID EARLIER, I CONCUR. [01:15:01] UM, I THINK WHEN YOU GO OUT TO BID ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, YOU'RE GONNA END UP HAVING TO PAY A LOT MORE WHEN IT'S OVER. I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNSEL TO LOOK AT IT, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND A LOT OF THE STUFF YOU DIDN'T THINK ABOUT, BUT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK IT BACK AND SEE WHAT THE CPI WAS SINCE THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS THAT IT HAD AND HOW HIGH IT WAS COMPARED TO OUR THREE AND A HALF NOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO FORWARD. SO IF WE'RE, WE'RE FIXING IT AT 5% AT THIS POINT, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, I WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT, AND, AND I SAW IT IN THERE, HOW WE COMPARE TO OTHER CITIES. WE'RE STILL WAY BELOW MOST OF THE CITIES OUT THERE. WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE OUT THERE THAT I THINK SECOND TO NONE. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY WITH, WITH, UH, WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS OF WHAT WE DID THIS GOING FORWARD. AND I KNOW, AND I HAVE CONCERNS TO, UH, COUNCILMAN MCCURDY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NICKEL AND, AND DIME PEOPLE. BUT WHEN WE SIT THERE AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE PROVIDED IN THE WAY OF SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY, I THINK WE'RE DOING IT IN A VERY REASONABLE RATE. UH, AND SO I WANTED TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ARTICULATE THAT, JUST GO BACK OVER AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT THE CPI WAS COMPARED TO WHAT IT SHOULD, WHAT THEY GOOD SHOULD HAVE HAD. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA GO WITH THE 5% THIS WAY, BUT I STILL THINK WE'RE LOCKING IN AND, AND GONNA HAVE A GOOD RATE FOR THE CITIZENS. UM, I HAVE ONE OTHER POINT. UH, WELL I DID, I COVERED THAT. SO OVERALL, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M, I WAS HAPPY WITH, WITH THE OPTION TOO. UM, AND SO I JUST JUST WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT. I THINK, I CAN'T COMPARE IT TO, YOU KNOW, DAK PRESCOTT'S, UH, CONTRACT OVER THERE, BUT YEAH, HE WOULD'VE PROBABLY GOTTEN MORE HAD HE GONE OUT TO, BUT AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE SAFE WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT, SO THANK YOU. YEAH, . SO I, I'M NOT IN ANY WAY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH OUR SERVICE, BUT I THINK THIS IS A DISCUSSION FOR THE COUNCIL TO HAVE. WE'VE GOT TWO OPTIONS. DO WE, UH, IN INCREASE THE RATE, UH, AND, AND, AND KEEP AND MAINTAIN THE, MAINTAIN OR INCREASE THE SERVICES, THE OPTION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WOULD EVEN INCREASE THE SERVICES, OR DO WE CUT SERVICES? WE'VE GOT AN OPTION. MM-HMM, , THERE'S, THERE'S A COUPLE OPTIONS BEFORE THIS, UH, OF EITHER INCREASING SERVICES OR, UH, OR KEEPING THE RATE LOW AND, AND HAVING LESS SERVICES. SO THAT'S A DISCUSSION THAT I DON'T THINK THE COUNCIL HAS HAD. UH, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE AS FAR AS GOING FORWARD. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, COMPARISON SLIDE, UM, THAT YOU PROVIDED EARLIER? UH, FOR THE BEST SOUTHWEST CITIES? YEAH. THE BEST SOUTHWEST CITIES. OKAY. YEAH. AND, AND, AND AGAIN, SOME CITIES, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UM, LARGER, THEY CALL THAT A REGIONAL, A REGIONAL BIN FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PUT ADDITIONAL, I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE THAT. SO EVEN THOUGH THE NUMBERS ARE HERE, I MEAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SOTO RATE IS, YOU KNOW, ALMOST AT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SIX 30. UM, BUT I, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, EACH CITY STILL HAS DIFFERENT TYPE OF SERVICE. UH, I FELT LIKE THE THINGS THAT THE, THE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT HERE IS ACTUALLY CUSTOMIZ AND CATERED TO US. UH, IT WORKS FOR US AND WE STILL SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN, THAN, THAN THAN OUR OTHER CITIES. BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE TABLE. WE GO OUT TO THE MARKET, MAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE 30%, YOU KNOW, INCREASE. I MEAN, POTENTIALLY. I MEAN, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON BEING A FREE AGENT, I MEAN, IT'S RISKY OR YOU CAN KIND OF CONTROL, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR NARRATIVE, UH, BY CONTIN CONSIDERING DOING AN EXTENSION, AND AGAIN, THEY'RE PROPOSING FIVE YEARS, MAYBE WE WANNA DO A TWO YEAR EXTENSION AND THEN LOOK AT IT. I DON'T, IT'S UP TO YOU COUNCILOR, COUNCILOR MCCURDY. WELL, I MEAN, WHY COULDN'T WE JUST GET THIS, GET A BID FROM ONE OR TWO COMPETITORS JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE NATURE OF, OF WHAT WE'VE GOT IS, IS IT PO IS IT NOT POSSIBLE TO, TO GET SOMEBODY TO, IF YOU GO OUT, IF YOU, IF YOU ASK FOR A BID, IT WILL BE AT MARKET RATE. HE'S, HE'S NOT TRYING TO CATCH UP TO MARKET IT. THE CITIES THAT HE SERVICE IN OTHER CITIES, CEDAR HILL IS THE, IS IS THE LOWEST DISCOUNTED RATE. SO IF YOU TAKE TAKING THE CHANCE, IF YOU'RE GOING OUT AND, AND THEN YOU CAN'T, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T ASK FOR A, A, A REQUEST FOR BID AND SEE WHAT THE MARKET IS, AND THEY DON'T USE THEM EITHER. RIGHT. , SO, UM, SO ANYWAY, SO YOU CAN, YOU CAN SEE WHAT THAT, WHAT THE CURRENT CONTRACT IS, WHICH I THINK THIS IS THE NUMBER JUST PRESENTED WITH US TODAY. UM, CITY MANAGER. YES. SO IN THE EVENT THE CITY WANTS TO GO OUT TO BID, IT'LL TAKE A YEAR PROCESS AND WE'D HAVE TO OPEN UP TO ALL COMPETITORS, COUNCILWOMAN, AZI, UM, JU FROM, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UH, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THAT WE WE GO OUT OR NOT. UM, BUT FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH MOVING FORWARD, I'M VERY DATA DRIVEN. AND SO I, I CAN'T APPRECIATE LIKE ALL [01:20:01] THE EFFORTS, BUT LIKE, I NEED TO SEE THE DATA, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? I, I, I NEED TO SEE THE DATA AND ABSORB THE DATA. AND I, I DON'T THINK THAT IT HAS TO BE, UM, MAYOR PROTON MAKES A REALLY GOOD POINT. UH, I'M NOT TO THAT CONCLUSION QUITE THAT IT HAS TO BE EITHER OR, LIKE WE HAVE TO DECIDE THAT WE CAN GIVE ENOUGH THE SERVICES OR WE HAVE TO DECIDE ON THE COST. I STILL FEEL LIKE THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE AND DISCUSSED SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. SO IT'S NOT JUST SO BLACK AND WHITE, IT'S EITHER OR. HOWEVER, AFTER LOOKING THROUGH EVERYTHING, IF, IF IT'S JUST NOT THERE, IT'S JUST NOT THERE. BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET MYSELF TO THAT POINT FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN TONIGHT. SO FOR ME, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DATA AND I'M HAPPY TO PROVIDE SPECIFICS WHAT WOULD HELP ME TO GET THERE. FAIR ENOUGH. AND I GUESS YOU'LL FOLLOW WITH STAFF WHAT THAT IS TO YOU, YOU YOU'LL FOLLOW WITH STAFF. AGAIN, TO ME IT'S, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO COMPARE WITH THE OTHER CITIES BECAUSE WE CUSTOMIZE FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE ASK FOR. SO, UM, SO YES, THIS MAY NOT BE DETAILED ENOUGH FOR YOU, BUT RIGHT. AND I, UM, IF WE'RE, I WOULD LIKE COMPARE PREMIER TO PREMIER TO PREMIER. UM, AND SO THAT MAY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE COMPARISON CITIES THAT WE HAVE. NOTHING AGAINST THE CITIES GOTCHA. AS FAR AS THE SERVICES. GOT IT. UM, AND COUNCIL GLOVER, THEN COUNCIL, LET'S TRY TO MAKE DECISION. YES. UH, AND, AND THAT WAS MY QUESTION. IS THAT WHERE WE ARE TONIGHT, THAT WE'RE PICKING BETWEEN OPTION ONE AND OPTION TWO, AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. DO WE HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE A DECISION NEXT COUNCIL MEETING OR IF THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO TONIGHT? JUST FOR, I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION. SO DO WE WANT A TABLE FOR ONE MORE WEEK? AND WE'RE HERE AT YOUR DISCUSSION? I THINK, UM, FOR US, IF WE COULD HAVE AN IDEA OF, UM, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IN, IN COMPREHENSION, AND BECAUSE WE NEED TIME TO PUT TOGETHER WHATEVER DATA WE NEED AND WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND WE CAN HOST A SPECIAL WORKSHOP IF YOU'D LIKE, OR WE CAN HAVE ANOTHER BRIEFING. UM, WE'RE HERE AT YOUR DISCUSSION. OKAY. UH, SO I GUESS LET'S, UM, UH, I GUESS LET'S, AS OF RIGHT NOW, LET'S TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN PUSH IT BACK FOR ANOTHER WEEK. UM, AND, UH, I GUESS ME AND YOU WOULD TRY TO GET TOGETHER AND TRY TO FIND OUT WHAT THE DATA IS THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE COUNCIL. AND, UH, WE'LL TRY TO PROVIDE THAT. AND THEN IF IT TAKES THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH INFORMATION, WE NEED TO HAVE A WORKSHOP, THEN MAYBE WE'LL BRING YOU IN AND, AND TRY TO SEE IF YOU CAN TRY TO HELP US SEE HOW WE GOT WHERE WE ARE. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO AS OF NOW, HOPEFULLY WE'LL MAKE DECISIONS WITHIN THE WEEK. I KNOW YOUR CONTRACT EXPIRES PRETTY SOON, SO I, WE CAN'T HAVE A LAPSE IN, IN, IN THE CONTRACT, SO WE, SO COUNSEL, THE PRESSURE'S ON. ALL RIGHT. MM-HMM. . SO, UM, SO NO DIRECTION, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW, TONIGHT WILL COME AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DUE DILIGENCE AND WE'LL TRY TO GIVE DIRECTION HOPEFULLY BY NEXT WEEK. PERFECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO COUNSEL, UH, IF YOU'RE JUST WALKING IN, WE ARE STILL IN OUR BRIEFING SESSION, SO I'M GONNA ASK FOR AN ADJOURNMENT AND THEN I HAVE, UH, 7 23 AND WE'LL RECONVENE AT SEVEN 30. MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES. ALRIGHT, SO I DO HAVE A MOTION. I DO HAVE A SECOND. NONE TO BE A MOTION ON A FAVOR PAGE, RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. UH, WE ARE ADJOURNED AT 7 23. WE'LL RECONVENE AT SEVEN 30. THANK YOU, COUNSEL. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.