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[1. Call meeting to order.]

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO EVERYBODY.

UH, THIS IS A DECEMBER 14TH, 2021.

I HAVE SEVEN OR ONE.

WE DO HAVE A FULL FORM OF COUNCIL, UH, PRESENT.

AND, UM, ALSO, UH, OPEN CARRY IS NOT PERMITTED WITHIN THIS COUNCIL CHAMBERS.

UH, IF YOU DO WANT TO SPEAK TO OUR ASSISTANCE FORM, PLEASE TURN IT INTO THE LADY OVER HERE TO MY RIGHT, YOUR LEFT BY SEVEN 15.

SO 15 IS THE DEADLINE.

AND ALSO IF YOU ARE WILLING TO, UH, TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC HEARING, UH, YOU DO NOT NEED TO FILL IN THE FORM, JUST WAIT TO YOUR, UH, CASE COME UP AND YOU CAN COME UP AND SPEAK.

SO WITH THAT OR THE FISH THEY CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

AND FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE INVOCATION GIVEN BY OUR POLICE CHIEF, UH, CHIEF ELRS.

IF YOU WILL PLEASE STAND AND FELLOW, THAT WILL BE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE FROM VICTORIA PREMERA, HEAVENLY FATHER.

THANK YOU FOR EVERY SEAT THAT HAS BEEN FILLED HERE TODAY FOR EACH MIND AND HEART, THAT FEELS THE PRESENCE OF THIS ROOM.

WE THANK YOU ONLY.

YOU TRULY KNOW WHERE WE ARE SETTING OUT TO ACCOMPLISH TODAY.

WE HAVE AN IDEA, A VISION.

WE HAVE TALENTS, ABILITIES, AND TIME TO WORK.

HOWEVER, ONLY YOU CAN SEE IN PERFECT DETAIL, THE END OF EVERY BEGINNING, WHERE ALL YOUR CHILDREN AND YOU LOVE US IN A WAY WE CAN HARDLY FATHOM HELP US TO SEE PAST THE ISSUES THAT DIVIDE US AND SEE ONE ANOTHER WITH EYES FREE OF HATE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR AMAZING POWER AND WORK IN OUR LIVES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GOODNESS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR BLESSINGS OVER US.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT LOVE AND CARE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR MERCY.

AND GRACE BLESS THIS MEETING TODAY.

ALL THOSE PRESENTS AS WELL AS EACH AND EVERY PERSON WE ENCOUNTER AFTERWARD IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN.

THANK YOU.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

LET'S VICTORIA.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[a. Pinning of Chaplain team.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A PRESENTATION, UH, UH, CHAPMAN TEAM, UH, TIKI DORIS, THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL FOR EVERYONE.

THAT'S IN THE ROOM.

AND THE CEDAR HILL HAS HAD A CHAPLAINCY PROGRAM FOR THE CITY FOR, FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

AND WHEN I, UH, TOOK OVER AS THE CHIEF, ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO WAS TO GET A GOOD POLICY IN PLACE FOR THE CHAPLAINS, AND THEN ALSO, UH, TO GET THEM SOME UNIFORMS AND A BADGE TO HELP THEM MAKE, MAKE THEM FEEL MORE AS PART OF THE TEAM.

AND ALTHOUGH THEY DO FALL UNDER THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY DO WORK FOR THE WHOLE CITY.

AND, UH, SO TODAY WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM THEIR BADGES AND, UH, UH, HAVE THEIR OATH OF OFFICE.

AND THANK YOU MAYOR FOR BEING HERE WITH ME.

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IF EVERYBODY WOULD JUST RAISE THEIR RIGHT HANDS AND REPEAT AFTER ME, I STATE YOUR NAME, RODMAN FRAZIER, VICTOR JACKSON, OR LIAR.

I DO BELIEVE IN DECLARE DECLARE THAT I HAVE BEEN CALLED TO SERVE GOD AND THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL AND THE CITY BY MINISTRY, TO THE MEN AND WOMEN AND WOMEN OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, THE CITY OF CEDAR AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS.

I VOW TO CARRY OUT, CARRY OUT MY DUTIES AS THE CHAPLAIN, MY DUTIES AS A CHAPLAIN, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY WITHOUT PREJUDICE, WITHOUT PREJUDICE AS TO RELIGION AS RELIGION OR IDEOLOGY.

I WILL ENDEAVOR TO MINISTER MINISTER WITH RESPECT WITH HONOR AND INTEGRITY, AND I WILL UPHOLD THE LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE STATE OF TEXAS AND THE SANCTITY OF MY OFFICE, MY OFFICE.

SO HELPED ME GET THIS IS GET A PICTURE REAL QUICK.

THE MAYOR.

YEAH, EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU, CHIEF.

AND THANK YOU FOR SWEARING IN OUR CHAPLAINS, A MAYOR PRO TEM, CAN YOU READ THE NEXT SIDE?

[b. Present a Proclamation to recognize Newman International Academy Football Team for winning the 2021 Texas Christian Athletic League Championship.]

AND THIS ITEM IS PRESENT A PROCLAMATION TO RECOGNIZE NORMAN INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY FOOTBALL TEAM FOR WINNING THE 2 20 21, 2021, TEXAS CHRISTIAN ATHLETIC LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP.

IS ANYONE HERE FROM NEWMAN? COME ON, CHAMPIONS.

THAT'S A COOL FOOTBALL COME STAND OVER HERE.

YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, GROWING UP, YOU KNOW, IN MY BACKYARD HERE IN CEDAR HERE, I COMPETED AT A PRETTY HIGH LEVEL.

UM, BUT, UH, I'VE NEVER MADE IT TO STATE.

I THINK I MADE IT LIKE TWO GAMES BEFORE STATE.

I AIN'T EVER TOLD YOU THAT.

UM, BUT, UM, I THINK IT'S PRETTY SPECIAL HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE KNOWS THE INDEPENDENT SCHOOL DISTRICT, A CITY HERE, LONGHORNS, THEY TEND TO GO PRETTY DEEP, UH, IN THE PLAYOFFS EVERY YEAR, BUT I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT AND RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, NEWMAN ACADEMY.

UH, THEY, UM, RIGHT HERE IN OUR BACKYARD, BEEN SERVING, BEEN, BEEN DOING THINGS HIGH ON A SCHOLASTIC LEVEL.

UH, BUT I THINK IT'S A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT, UH, TO BE RECOGNIZED AND COMPETE ON A SORT OF STATE LEVEL, AS YOU ALL KNOW THE, OUR CHAMPIONS, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WHAT IT TAKES TO BE A CHAMPION, RIGHT? THERE'S SO MUCH INTANGIBLES THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT.

UH, YOU GOTTA, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO STUDY THE GAME PLAN, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA PRACTICE, YOU GOTTA HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE AND SOMEBODY GOES

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OUT AND INVOLVED ALONG WITH THEM.

SO I WANTED THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT TO OUR CITY COUNCIL TODAY IN ORDER TO BE RECOGNIZED.

SO, UH, COACH, YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE ME TODAY.

OKAY.

I DO HAVE A PROCLAMATION FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR.

IF YOU DON'T MIND TO, AND ME BEING THIS, THIS IS YOUR MOMENT.

THE MISSING OF NOMINEE NATIONAL ACADEMY IS TO TRAIN AND EDUCATE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WITH WISDOM, STATURE, AND FAVOR TO GIVE STUDENTS OPPORTUNITY, TO BECOME WHOLE INDIVIDUALS, READY TO SERVE THE WORLD BY HELPING THEM REACH THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL AND TO PROVIDE IN PARTNERSHIPS WITH PARENTS AND COMMUNITY, A WELL ROUNDED EDUCATION WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF AMERICAN HERITAGE AND MERMAN NATIONAL ACADEMY IS DEDICATED TO RAISING GENERATIONS OF WELL-ROUNDED INDIVIDUALS WHO WILL REALIZE THEIR WORTH AND PURPOSE TO FIND THEIR INTEREST AND GIFTING, DEVELOP THEIR SKILLS, REACH THEIR HIGHEST POTENTIAL, AND MEET THE DEMANDS OF THIS NATION.

AND WE'RE ABOUT RECEIVING PERSONALIZED EDUCATION EXPERIENCE IN DISCIPLINE, NURTURING THE CHARACTERISTIC AND CARING AND CHARACTER BUILDING ENVIRONMENTAL FACILITATE FACILITATED THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN FACULTY, STUDENTS, PARENTS, AND COMMUNITY AND NEWMAN NATIONAL ACADEMY, UH, IS CEDAR HERE STARTED ITS VARSITY FOOTBALL PROGRAM.

IN 2017.

THE FOOTBALL TEAM WON HIS FIRST ATYPIA SHIPMENT, 2019, TEXAS CHRISTIAN ATHLETIC FELLOWSHIP.

AND IN SECOND STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN 2021, THE TEXAS, UH, CHRISTIAN FNA, THE NEXT YEAR THEY WERE JOINED THE UNIVERSITY NS SCHOLASTIC LEAGUE UI MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.

WELL IT'S A JOHNSON COACH.

FORMALLY THE OFFICE OF COORDINATOR WAS PROMOTED TO INTERIM HEAD COACH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON AND LET THE SCHOOL TO ITS SECOND CHAMPIONSHIP.

AND THE FOOTBALL TEAM WAS LED BY AN OFFENSE THAT AVERAGE 41 POINTS, A GAME WHO RUN DAVE CAMPBELL'S, TEXAS FOOTBALL TEAM OF THE WEEK, A WAR WHEN THE WEEK IN WEEK TWO OF THE SEASON FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY AND JUNIOR QUARTERBACK, JOSHUA RICO.

WHEREAS THE TEAM FIRST BUILT FOR A TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYER OF THE WEEK AND THE NORMAN INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY SITTING HERE, FOOTBALL TEAM WON.

IT WON THE TEXAS CHRISTIAN ATHLETICALLY STATE CHAMPIONSHIP ON NOVEMBER 20TH, 2021 IN PLANO, TEXAS AGAINST TRINITY CHRISTIAN.

BUT THE FINAL SCORE OF 2017 AND TURNING GRAY WAS THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER OF THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IS A NEW DAY.

HE'S NOT, HE'S CURRENTLY PLAYING IN A BASKETBALL GAME.

NO.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

WELL, OKAY.

LET'S SEE.

IS HE GOING TO GET 30 POINTS TONIGHT? OKAY.

SO, UH, TURNING GRAY WAS THE MOST VALUABLE PLAYER ON THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME.

GREY IS A JUNIOR WIDE RECEIVER RUNNING BACK DEFENSIVE BACK AND APPARENTLY POINT GUARD AND CENTER.

UH, HE FINISHED THE GAME WITH 13 CARRIES 118 YARDS, TWO TOUCHDOWNS, AND TWO POINT CONVERSION RUSHING, RECEIVING.

HE HAD TWO CATCHES FOR 58 YARDS AND DEFENSIVELY.

HE HAD SEVEN TACKLES, THREE PASS, BREAKUPS MATH, THEREFORE STEPHEN MASON, MAYOR, THE CITY OF CEDAR HERE DO HEREBY HONOR.

THE MOMENT IN NATIONAL ACADEMY, SENIOR AND HIS FOOTBALL TEAM, BUT WARRIORS FOR WINNING THE 20 21, 20 20 21 TC CHAMPIONSHIP.

I RECOGNIZE THE HARD WORK AND COMMITMENT OF THE FOOTBALL TEAM.

AND I COMPLIMENT THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION, TEACHERS AND STUDENTS FOR THE FOLLOWING, THEIR MODEL, BUILDING THE WHOLE PERSON FOR THE WHOLE WORLD BY RAISING WARRIORS OF WISDOM, STATURE AND FAVOR.

I HAVE HERE ONTO SET MY HAND AT COST AND SEAR OF THE CITY OF CITY HERE AT TEXAS TO BE A FIXED ON THIS DAY, 14TH DAY OF DECEMBER, 2021.

CONGRATULATIONS CAN YOU GET US WELL BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR MOMENT.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY? SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, FIRST, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU MAYOR AND THE CITY AS WELL FOR US OUT, RECOGNIZING US NOT ONLY WAS THIS A GREATER COST THAN THAT FOR OUR FOOTBALL TEAM, BUT OUR SCHOOL IN GENERAL, ANYBODY THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL,

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ESPECIALLY CHAMPIONSHIPS KNOWS THAT THE GIVING OF A GAME BALL IS SOMETHING SPECIAL.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE PLAYERS GOT TOGETHER AND DECIDED TO DO.

WE DECIDED THAT WE WERE GOING TO PRESENT THE GAME BALL FROM THE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP TO THE MAYOR AND THE CITY AS A THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR SUPPORT.

WHERE'S THAT PHOTOGRAPHER.

I GOT TO GET THIS TO WHERE YOU AT? ANAHEIM.

YOU STILL HERE.

OH, YOU GOT IT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, VICTORIA.

ALRIGHT.

CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF TO EVERYBODY? UM, HI, I'M VICTORIA ROMERO.

I'M PART OF THE MAYOR'S TEEN COUNCIL AND I ATTEND NEW MEN INTERNATIONAL ACADEMY TO CEDAR HILL.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

AND I AM THE HEAD MANAGER OF OUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIP FOOTBALL TEAM.

MY NAME IS RICARDO ROMERO.

I'M ALSO PART OF THE MYRCENE COUNCIL.

I AM THE CENTER FOR OUR SCHOOL AND UM, OH YEAH, OUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIP FOR BOTH SEEN MY NAME IS JOSHUA RAYCO AND I'M IN THERE.

AND I'M THE QUARTERBACK AT NEMA JUNIOR QUARTERBACK.

TAKE BACK.

THANK YOU AGAIN, COATS.

CONGRATULATIONS.

CAN YOU GET I GOT A ONE AND TWO YEAR OLD AT HOME.

WELL, CAUSE SOMEONE TELLING ME HOW TO KEEP A FOOTBALL AWAY FROM MY GIRLS.

ALL RIGHT.

[a. Case No. PD-388-2021 – Conduct a public hearing and consider an application for a change in zoning from “LR” (Local Retail District) to “PD” (Planned Development District) for single-family attached dwelling units on approximately 14.23 acres generally located between South Joe Wilson Road and South Waterford Oaks Drive, south of East Belt Line Road with the approximate address being 2005 South Joe Wilson Road. Applicant: Garrett Huffines, Huffines Communities. Property Owners: Shoelaces of Texas, LTD; New Life Fellowship of Las Colinas, Inc.; and New Life Covenant Church Las Colinas, Inc.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING CASE NUMBER PD 3 88, 20 21 COULD BE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

I CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE IN ZONING FROM LR LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO THE PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOUR CIVIL FAMILY ATTACHED DURING UNITS ON APPROXIMATELY 14 POINT 23 ACRES LOCATED BETWEEN SOUTH JOE WILSON ROAD IN SOUTH WATERFORD OAKS ROAD, SOUTH OF THE EASTBOUND MOUNTAIN ROAD WITH THE APPROXIMATE ADDRESS BEING 2005 SOUTH SERVICE AND ROAD APPLICANT, GARRETT HOFHEINZ HE'LL FIND HIS COMMUNITY PROPERTY OWNERS, SUITCASES OF FIXES, FTD NEW LIFE FELLOWSHIP OF LAS COLINAS INCORPORATED, AND MOON LIFE COVENANT CHURCH, LAS COLINAS INCORPORATED.

DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE WITH US TODAY? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORKS? GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL AND LIMES GARRETT ALPHONSE.

MY SISTER HALEY.

UH UM, WE DO HAVE A SHORT POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT TONIGHT.

UH, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING AND WORKING HARD, UH, WITH, WITH STAFF AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND P AND Z AND MAYOR.

I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A SITE VISIT OUT TO A SIMILAR DEVELOPMENT, UM, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE THIS EVENING TO, UH, UH, REQUEST A REZONING FROM LOCAL RETAIL TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT FOR A TOWNHOME COMMUNITY.

UM, AND AGAIN, THE TONIGHT IS REALLY THE CULMINATION OF SEVERAL MONTHS OF HARD WORK BY STAFF AND EVERYONE.

UM, SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MY SISTER.

THANKS.

SO ON THIS FIRST SLIDE ON THIS FIRST SLIDE WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS THE TRACK.

SO IT'S RIGHT SOUTH OF THAT WALMART.

UM, ONE THING I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE IT IT'S THREE SEPARATE LANDOWNERS.

SO IT'S KIND OF UNIQUE IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT TO FIND A TRACK THAT WE CAN GET THREE CONTIGUOUS LANDOWNERS AND PUT ONE PROJECT ON TOP OF THAT IN GENERAL, YOU COULD HAVE THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS BY THREE DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS ON THREE DIFFERENT TIMELINES, WHICH COULD REALLY IMPACT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

POTENTIALLY WE WOULD ARGUE MAYBE LESS FAVORABLE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE DIFFERENT TIMELINES, DIFFERENT CONSTRUCTION CREWS, DIFFERENT GOALS.

WE ARE ABLE TO PROVIDE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE PROPOSING ONE SINGLE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS ALL THREE TRACKS.

WE HAVE GOTTEN ALL THREE LANDOWNERS TO AGREE.

UM, AND TH THAT DEVELOPMENT IS CHANGING FROM THAT RETAIL, WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS A HEAVIER, MORE DENSE USE OF, THEY CAN GO UP TO SIX STORIES TO THE TOWNHOMES.

ZONING IS A PD TOWNHOMES ZONING, WHICH WOULD BE A RESIDENTIAL USE, WHICH WE WOULD ARGUE IS LESS INTENSE.

UM, ON THE TOP LEFT OF THE SLIDE YARDS, TYPICAL, UH, DENSITY FOR A TOWNHOME IS 14 UNITS PER ACRE.

WE'RE PRODUCING WE'RE PROPOSING ONLY NINE UNITS PER ACRE.

SO HAVE LESS DENSE

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THAN YOUR BASE ZONING.

WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING MINIMUM OF 20% OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY AN HOA.

UM, AND THAT IS, WE FEEL VERY UNIQUE FOR A TOWNHOME PRODUCT.

TOWNHOME PRODUCT TENDS TO BE VERY URBAN AND VERY DENSE, USUALLY TWO BUILDINGS RIGHT UP AGAINST AN ALLEY WITH NO YARDS, NO GREEN SPACE.

UH, WE, WE MET WITH STAFF.

I THINK IT'S GOOD TO GO BACK IN TIME.

AND WE STARTED MEETING IN THE SUMMER AND ASKED WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO STAFF.

WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THIS DNA OF CEDAR HILL? AND WE FOUND OUT VERY CLEARLY, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GREEN SPACE, OPEN SPACE IS IMPORTANT.

SO WE WERE TRYING TO REPURPOSE THE SITE OF HOW CAN WE INCORPORATE CEDAR HILL INTO THIS SITE.

UM, AND WE DID THAT WITH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY ENHANCING THAT OPEN SPACE REQUIREMENT, PRETTY, UM, SUBSTANTIALLY FOR A TOWNHOME PRODUCT.

TYPICALLY TOWNHOME PRODUCTS WILL HAVE A LOT LESS OPEN SPACE.

AND WE FOCUSED ON THAT, KNOWING THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT FOR CEDAR HEALTH.

UM, BUT BOTTOM LEFT OF THE SLIDE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE VALUE CREATION.

SO THIS HAS BEEN VACANT LAND FOR FOREVER.

IT'S BEEN SITTING HERE.

WE THINK THAT PROVIDING ONE COHESIVE USE IS GOING TO PROVIDE VALUE TO THE CITY.

UH, WE'RE BRINGING ROOFTOPS HERE, WHICH WE THINK IS A VERY COMPLIMENTARY, UM, COMPLIMENTARY USE FOR RETAIL TO START COMING.

THE MORE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE, THE BOARD LIKELY RETAIL DEVELOPMENT WILL COME.

I THINK RIGHT AFTER US IS THE COFFEE SHOP.

THAT'LL BE GOING KIND OF CATTY CORNER TO THIS SITE.

AND THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF RETAIL AND RESIDENTIAL MOVING TOGETHER, KIND OF FILLING IN THIS INTRO LAND THAT'S THERE.

UM, SO THAT COMPLIMENTARY ACCESS, UH, THE BOTTOM, RIGHT, WE WANT TO TOUCH ON EACH WAY.

SO THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC FOR TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT, SPECIFICALLY TOWNHOMES SHARE ROOFS AND THEY SHARE WALLS AND THEY SHARE FRONT FACADE.

SO WITHOUT A THIRD PARTY PROFESSIONAL HOA, IT CAN BE A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC.

WE DID MEET WITH COUNCILMAN GLOVER AND MCCURDY, AND HE MENTIONED HE'S HAD PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH ROOF ISSUES BACK WHEN HE LIVED IN A TOWN HOME.

SO THE THIRD, THE THIRD PARTY HOA WOULD MANAGE THIS PROFESSIONALLY AND THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE A REAL BUDGET.

THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

UM, THE ROOFS FRONT FACADE AND SLABS ARE ALL GOING TO BE INSURED UNDER THAT HOA PROGRAM.

SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, THERE'S AN INSURANCE POLICY IN PLACE WITH, YOU KNOW, FUNDS BEING ALLOCATED TOWARDS THAT.

IN ADDITION TO THOSE, LIKE WHAT WE CALL STICKS OUT, UM, INSURANCE POLICIES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL A FRONT YARDS MAINTAINED THAT WOULD BE IRRIGATION.

THAT'S MARINE, THAT'S LANDSCAPING AND LAND, THE OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD ALL ENCOMPASS THAT HOA, UM, KIND OF UMBRELLA.

AND THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR EITHER MAYBE A LOCK AND LEAVE LIFESTYLE EMPTY-NESTERS OR FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, SOMEONE WHO WANTS THAT A LITTLE BIT LESS MAINTENANCE, UM, OR LESS RESPONSIBILITY OF A HOME, BUT STILL HAVING IT LOOK VERY PROFESSIONAL AND VERY, UM, WHAT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST ATTRACTIVE AND ATTRACTIVE DRIVE UP CURB APPEAL.

SO THAT'S SLIDE ONE, SLIDE TWO.

UM, TELL HIM PRODUCTS ARE VERY UNIQUE.

IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT UNLIKE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, WHERE YOU HAVE A 50 FOOT LOT, AND YOU CAN HAVE 15 DIFFERENT BUILDERS COME PUT SOMETHING THERE.

TOWNHOMES ARE NOT THAT WAY.

THEY'RE BUILT VERY SPECIFIC EITHER FRONT ENTRY, REAR ENTRY, 23 FEET, 24 FEET.

SO WE'VE HAD TO IDENTIFY A BUILDER SINCE THIS SUMMER.

AND WE'VE SHOWED THIS SITE TO MULTIPLE BUILDERS SAYING LIKE, WHO IS ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ON A SITE BECAUSE THEY'RE SO UNIQUE.

SO ASHTON WOODS STARLIGHT IS THE GROUP THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH SINCE THE SUMMER SITE PLANNING, THEY PRODUCE A GARRETT, WE'LL GO INTO MORE DETAIL, BUT A 26 FOOT WIDE FRONT ENTRY PRODUCT, TWO PRO GARAGE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT LATER, BUT THAT IS KIND OF LIKE THE UNIQUENESS OF ASHTON WOODS AND STARLIGHT AND ANY TOWNHOME BUILDER.

YOU PICK, YOU KIND OF HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THEM FROM THE BEGINNING, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T, THERE IS NO OTHER BUILDER THAT CAN COME IN AND TAKE SOMEONE ELSE'S PLANS.

IT'S ONE BUILDER, ONE FROM THE BEGINNING.

UM, SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CITY STAFF AND OUR BUILDER ASHTON WOODS.

I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THEM.

ASHTON WOODS IS ALL OVER THE SOUTHWEST.

THEY'RE THE SECOND LARGEST PRIVATE BUILDER IN THE COUNTRY RIGHT NOW.

THEY WERE STARTED IN 1989 IN DALLAS.

UM, STARLIGHT HOMES IS UNDER THE ASHTON WOODS UMBRELLA.

THEY'RE ONE OF THE FASTEST GROWING HOME BUILDERS IN DFW.

AND THEIR FOCUS IS PRIMARILY ON A FIRST-TIME HOME BUYER, A QUALITY PRODUCT AT A REASONABLE PRICE, WHICH REALLY FITS WHAT THIS PROJECT IS.

SO STARLIGHT IS GOING TO BE THE, UM, THE BUILDER HERE NEXT I'LL BE PASSING IT OFF TO GARRETT TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE SITE PLAN IN MORE DETAIL.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

SO HERE'S OUR, UH, CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

UM, HALEY KIND OF TOUCHED ON THE NATURE OF THE TOWNHOMES, WHERE WE'RE WORKING, UH, YOU KNOW, COINCIDE, UH, WORKING WITH A BUILDER AND WORKING WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THIS PD, UH, WORKS FOR, FOR EVERYONE.

UM, ONE FEW THINGS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT HERE IS ALL THE, THE GREEN AREA.

UM, THE, UH, WE HAVE OVER 20% OPEN SPACE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE ALSO IN THE PD, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR HALF AN ACRE OF THAT IS GOING TO BE AMENITIZE WITH A DOG PARKS OR PLAYGROUNDS.

UM, SO IF WE WERE TO USE A THREE TO ONE OPEN SPACE, CREDIT'S REALLY MORE LIKE A 30% OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE.

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IN ADDITION, A LOT OF ALL OF THIS OPEN SPACES BEEN DESIGNED IN A, IN A WAY WHERE IT'S VERY USABLE AND PRACTICAL.

IT'S NOT JUST HALF AN ACRE OR TWO ACRES DOWN IN A CORNER BY A FLOODPLAIN IT'S SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY WHERE A MAJORITY OF THE UNITS BACK UP FACE OR FRONT, THE OPEN SPACE.

AND WE HAVE TRAILS AND TREES GOING THROUGHOUT THAT OPEN SPACE.

ALSO WHAT'S UNIQUE WITH THESE FRONT ENTRY.

TOWNHOMES IS EVERY SINGLE LOT WILL HAVE ITS OWN PRIVATE BACKYARD.

UM, WE FIND THAT, UH, THE MARKET AND THE POTENTIAL BUYERS LOVE THAT WEATHER.

UH, TYPICALLY THEY'RE COMING FROM, UH, AN APARTMENT OF A SMALL DOG OR SMALL CHILDREN THAT PRIVATE BACKYARD REALLY, UH, IS A GREAT SELLING POINT AND A VERY UNIQUE FEATURE FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, IN THE BACKYARDS HERE ALSO 50% LARGER THAN WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO FOR THIS TYPE OF TOWNHOME PRODUCT.

UM, A FEW OTHER THINGS I'D LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT IS WE DO HAVE ENHANCED LANDSCAPING ALONG JOE WILSON AND WATERFORD OAKS.

YOU CAN SEE THAT DETAIL IS BLOWN UP IN THE, IN THE MIDDLE HERE.

UM, AND, UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH, UH, WE HAVE WORKED WITH THE NEIGHBORS TO OUR SOUTH, WHICH IS THE, UH, WINDSOR WINDSOR PARK PID.

AND THEY HAVE MENTIONED THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING ALONG WATERFORD OAKS, AND WE'VE SHOWN THEM OUR LANDSCAPE PLANS.

AND THEY REALLY LIKE HOW, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDS TO THEIR, UH, THEIR PID PLANS.

UM, ALSO WE KNOW PARKING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE CITY AND, AND AS A KIND OF A HOT TOPIC.

UM, SO WE HAVE, UH, TAKEN THAT FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATED, UH, PLENTY OF PARKING INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE OVER 50 OFF STREET PROGRAM, PARKING STALLS FOR VISITORS.

ALSO, WE WERE REQUIRING TWO CAR GARAGES.

UM, AND WE HAVE SAID IT EXPLICITLY IN THE PD THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THAT NO ON-STREET PARKING IS ALLOWED AND WE WILL BE INSTALLING NO PARKING SIGNS ON THE STREETS.

UH, HERE, YOU CAN SEE OUR PERIMETER SCREENING.

THIS IS OUR, UH, SCREENING EXHIBIT.

SO, UH, WE, THE ENTIRE PERIMETER OF THIS PROPERTY, WE ARE GOING TO BE, UH, SCREENING.

AND AGAIN, THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, THREE DIFFERENT OWNERS WERE ABLE TO COME HERE WITH ONE COHESIVE, UH, LOOK AND FEEL.

AND, UM, ALSO ALL THIS SCREENING IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA PROFESSIONAL HOA COMPANY.

SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE IF THERE'S MAINTENANCE OR STAINING ISSUES, UH, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE PIECEMEAL TOGETHER.

IT'S GOING TO BE A WELL-KEPT UP.

UH, WE ALSO ARE SCREENING THE ENTIRE, UH, SOUTH OF OUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS, UH, TO OUR NEIGHBORS WHERE WE BACK UP TO AN ALLEY.

UM, SO WE WILL, WE'VE DONE THAT AND WE'LL TOUCH ON THIS LATER.

WE'VE DONE THAT TO, UH, IMPACT THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IN THAT ALLEY IS AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.

UH, THESE NEXT TWO SIDES OF THIS SLIDE AND THE NEXT ONE, WE JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE A MORE VISUAL KIND OF STREETSCAPE VIEW OF WHAT, UH, THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT WILL LOOK LIKE.

THE BUILDINGS HERE ARE NOT REALLY INDICATIVE OF, OF WHAT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

THEY'RE KIND OF JUST PLACEHOLDERS, BUT, UH, IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE, THE OPEN SPACE, THE TRUES AND ALL THE STREET TREES WE'RE PROVIDING.

ALSO, WE WILL BE PROVIDING UPGRADED GARAGE DOORS, UH, WHICH HALEY WILL TOUCH ON WHERE WITH THE STREET TREES AND THE UPGRADED GARAGE DOORS.

WE REALLY ARE ABLE TO CREATE AN ENHANCED STREET VIEW AND CURB APPEAL NEXT.

UM, SO HERE, THIS IS FROM WATERFORD OAKS, LOOKING INTERNAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

YOU CAN SEE THE OPEN SPACE ON THE RIGHT WITH THE TRAIL MEANDERING THROUGH AND THE ROD IRON FENCING THAT BACKS UP TO THE OPEN SPACE.

YOU ALSO CAN SEE THE PROGRAM PARKING CELLS OFF THE STREET.

UM, AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT BACK OVER TO HAILEY.

THANKS, GARRETT.

SO NOW WE'LL SEE THE PROPOSED GARAGE DOOR DESIGNS.

THIS WAS IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION THAT KATHERINE HELPED PREPARE.

UM, WE, WE HAVE A GROUP.

SO ORIGINALLY WE HAD BASE GARAGE DOORS, WHICH YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH.

IT'S GOING TO BE THAT KIND OF BLOCK.

LOOK, THERE'S NO WINDOWS, THERE'S NO DECORATIVE FEATURES.

AND WITH HOW IMPORTANT THAT FRONT FACADE WAS, WE WORKED WITH THE CITY AND THE BUILDER.

HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THIS, THIS LOOK, IT'S NOT NOT DOING IT FOR US.

WE NEED TO, WE MAY NEED TO MAKE IT BETTER.

SO THE CITY HAS PROPOSED ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE IN THE PD THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT WOOD, GRAIN TEXTURE, SOME DECORATIVE FEATURES, UM, THE WINDOWS.

AND WE WORKED WITH THE BUILDER OF SAYING, YOU KNOW, CAN WE PROVIDE THIS? WE THINK IT IS IMPORTANT.

IT'S AN ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE THAT WERE REALLY ENHANCED THAT DRIVE UP CURB APPEAL RATHER THAN SEEING A BUNCH OF BLOCK GARAGES.

YOU'RE GONNA SEE DECORATIVE KIND OF WHAT WE WOULD CALL ARCHITECTURALLY ENHANCED GARAGES.

SO THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN INCLUDED.

AND THIS IS THE EXHIBIT.

UM, THE STUDY PROVIDED THAT WE INCLUDED IN OUR PRESENTATION AS WELL, MOVING TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE, ELEVATION AT THE TOP.

YOU'LL SEE IT'S A WATER COLOR.

AND AT THE BOTTOM, IT'S A RENDERING.

SO THOSE GARAGE DOORS ARE NOT INDICATIVE OF WHAT WOULD BE THERE.

IT'D BE THAT ENHANCED STORE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, THE MOST UNITS THAT ARE IN A ROW AT THIS, AT THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS SIX UNITS.

SO MAXIMUM OF SIX FOR OUR

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DEVELOPMENT, THE CITY HAS INCLUDED LANGUAGE IN THE PD, SIMILAR TO THE GARAGE LANGUAGE THAT LIMITS ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES, PAINT, COLOR, REPETITION, MONOTONY RULES.

SO WHAT YOU MIGHT THINK OF WHEN YOU THINK OF A TOWNHOME IS THE SAME PRODUCT OVER AND OVER RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER.

SO WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE CITY'S HELP WITH THIS PD LANGUAGE, WE'RE LIMITING THAT THAT WERE REPETITIVE, IDENTICAL COOKIE CUTTERS, THAT BY ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE FOR ARCHITECTURAL DEVIATIONS OR NOT DEVIATIONS, BUT DIFFERENT FEATURES, UH, DIFFERENT PAINT, COLOR REQUIREMENTS, DIFFERENT FRONT FACADES, YOU CAN'T REPEAT THE SAME BUILDING GROUPING NEXT TO EACH OTHER ACROSS THE STREET.

SO IT REALLY WILL HELP THAT SAME STREET APPEAL, UH, MOVING ON TO THE SIDE.

SO THIS IS AT 200 FOOT RADIUS, UH, NOTIFICATION FOR REZONING.

UH, WE'LL GO BACK.

SO SINCE THIS SUMMER, THE SAME TIME WE STARTED ENGAGING THE CITY.

WE STARTED ENGAGING OUR NEIGHBORS TO THE SOUTH.

THAT'S THE WINDSOR PARK PIT.

UH, THAT'S GONNA BE THAT BLUE OR THE PURPLE LIGHT RATHER.

UM, THE PURPLE ALL ALONG THAT SOUTHERN IT'S GOING TO BE A PUBLIC ALLEY.

THAT'S THE SEPARATOR BETWEEN OUR TRACK OF LAND AND THE NEIGHBORS.

SO BACK IN JULY, THEY TOLD US, YOU KNOW, WE LIKED THE IDEA OF GETTING RID OF RETAIL AND PUTTING RESIDENTIAL.

WE DON'T NECESSARILY LOVE THE IDEA OF SHARING AN ALLEY.

HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO LIMIT ALLEY ACCESS? SO WE WENT BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND WE HAD ORIGINALLY FRONT AND REAR ENTRY.

AND WE SAID, OKAY, WELL, IF WE MAKE EVERYTHING FRONT ENTRY, MEANING INTERIOR ACCESS WITH NO VEHICLE ACCESS TO THE ALLEY, WE WOULD APPEAL, YOU KNOW, HELP THE NEIGHBORS ON THAT PAIN POINT.

LIKE WE WOULD ELIMINATE VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

UM, SO WE WENT BACK TO THEM IN OCTOBER, SAID, HERE'S OUR NEW PLANS.

WE WILL NOT BE USING THE ALLEY FOR VEHICLE ACCESS AT ALL.

UM, WE'LL ACTUALLY BE PUTTING A FENCE.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES MAYBE WAS CRIME AND ACCESS POINTS.

SO WE'LL BE PUTTING A FENCE ALL ALONG THAT SOUTHERN THAT SOUTHERN BORDER.

UM, SO WE, WE TALKED TO THEM AND THEN WE PRESENTED ON PNC ON THE SEVENTH, UH, AT THE SEVENTH, SOME THINGS WERE BROUGHT UP REGARDING GATES AND GATE ACCESS.

AND HOW ARE THESE NEIGHBORS OR OUR HOMES ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER WOULD IMPACT THEIR, THEIR ALLEYWAY.

SO WE WENT AHEAD AND PRE CREATED AN ADDITIONAL EXHIBIT.

WE'VE BEEN EMAILING THEM OVER THE LAST SEVEN DAYS, AND I THINK WE'VE RESOLVED IT WITH THE PAID, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IN CASE ANYONE HEARS IS AN UNFAMILIAR WASN'T ON THE EMAIL CHAIN.

WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PROVIDE AND ELABORATE ON THAT ALLIE FOLLOW-UP ACCESS.

DEREK'S GOING TO TOUCH ON THIS SLIDE HERE AND WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE THAT REAR ACCESS AND HOW WE WERE ABLE TO MITIGATE AND REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF ACCESS ON THAT ALLEYWAY FOR, TO HELP WITH THE NEIGHBORS.

SO I'M JUST GONNA QUICKLY, YES.

KIND OF EXPLAIN THE NATURE OF THESE FRONT ENTRY TOWNHOMES.

UM, WITH THESE FRONT ENTRY TOWNHOMES WE'VE LEARNED, AND THE BUILDER HAS LEARNED THAT THERE'S STILL NEEDS TO BE MAINTENANCE AND ACCESS IN THE PRIVATE BACKYARDS.

AGAIN, ALL OF THESE HOMES WILL HAVE A PRIVATE BACKYARD AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.

SO WE'VE WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT TYPICALLY PEOPLE STORE THEIR, FOR EXAMPLE, THEIR LAWNMOWER AND THEIR GARAGE, WHICH IS IN FRONT.

SO WHAT A INTERIOR UNIT, ONE OF THESE, UH, HOMEOWNERS WOULD DO IS THEY WOULD GET THEIR LAWN EQUIPMENT FROM THEIR FRONT GARAGE, GO AROUND TO THE BACK.

AND THEY WOULD, UH, WALK AROUND THE BUILDING AND OPEN UP THROUGH A PEDESTRIAN GATE SO THEY CAN GET THEIR EQUIPMENT THROUGH TO THEIR BACKYARD.

UM, AND IT WAS GOING TO TOUCH ON THIS IN A SECOND, BUT WE ALSO TO DO THAT, THAT PERSON IS NOT WALKING ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THEY'RE WALKING ON THE HOA PROPERTY.

THAT IS COMMON AREA, UH, FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

SO WE'VE PROVIDED COMMON AREAS IN THE SIDE YARDS, AS WELL AS IN THE REAR.

SO EACH RESIDENT WILL BE ACCESSING THEIR BACKYARD SOLELY BY WALKING ON HOA PROPERTY.

THEY WILL NOT BE ENTERING THE ALLEY.

SO MOVING ON TO SLIDE 12, WE, WE TRIED OUR BEST TO DISPLAY THIS.

SO ON THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THERE'S A LIGHTER GREEN THAT'S THAT PRIVATE BACKYARD THAT EVERY RESIDENT IS REALLY WANTING.

IT'S REALLY POPULAR IN THE MARKET TODAY.

AND THE YELLOW IS THE GATES.

THAT'S A PEDESTRIAN GATE ONCE AGAIN, NOT A VEHICLE GATE.

UM, AND WHAT WE DID WITH, AFTER THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PYD MEMBERS ON THE SEVENTH, WE SAID, OKAY, WE WENT BACK TO THE BUILDER.

HOW CAN WE REDUCE IMPACT? WE HAVE NOW MOVED EVERY CORNER, LOT GATE TO INTERIOR.

SO IT WILL NO LONGER BE ON THAT ALLEY ACCESS ON GARRETT SLIDE.

IF YOU GO BACK ONE, ALL OF THE ORANGE HERE, HIGHLIGHTED WITH THE COUNT, THOSE ARE GOING TO BE THE GATES THAT NEED TO BE ON THAT ALLEY.

THE HOA LAND ACTUALLY IT'S HOA LAND.

UM, SO IT ORIGINALLY WAS ABOUT 47 DOORS POTENTIALLY ON THAT ALLEY.

WE'VE REDUCED THAT TO 25, WHEREVER POSSIBLE.

WE'RE GOING TO DO AN INTERIOR GATE AND INTERIOR FACING LESS ALLEY.

AND THEN ON THE GO FORWARD, YOU CAN SEE HERE THOSE, THOSE YELLOW GATES KIND OF IN THE INTERIOR UNITS WITH THOSE SIDE GATES DISPLAYED.

NOW, ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP FROM THE PYD MEMBERS IN OUR EXCHANGE OF EMAIL IS, IS THAT GREEN SPACE WHERE THOSE TWO SIDE GATES ARE, IS THAT OPEN OR IS THAT GOING TO BE GATED FOR SAFETY? AND I COULDN'T FIT A THIRD DOOR HERE WITHOUT LOOKING REALLY MESSY, BUT THAT THERE IS A DOOR THERE WILL BE A GATE.

SO THAT WHOLE BORDER WILL BE

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GATED.

UM, THAT WOULD BE AN HOA OWNED GATE.

SO THE HRA WOULD OWN THAT GATE.

AND YOU WALK OUT OF THE HOA GATE INTO YOUR PRIVATE BACKYARD.

UM, ON THE BOTTOM SIDE, IT'S IMPORTANT HERE.

WE REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF THE FIVE FOOT BUFFER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING ON OUR PRIVATE LAND.

UM, THE RESIDENTS HAVE SAID THAT THEY APPRECIATE THAT BECAUSE IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH VERY NARROW ALLEYS, WHEN YOU BUILD RIGHT UP TO THAT ALLEY LINE, YOU HAVE THE RISK OF PEOPLE BACKING UP AND HITTING YOUR FENCE.

AND ALSO IT'S NOT PLEASANT TO DRIVE THROUGH WHEN THERE'S SOMEONE'S TRASH CAN LEFT OUT, YOU HAVE THIS TUNNEL CLAUSTROPHOBIC FIELD.

SO WE, IN ORDER TO IMPACT THE ALLEYS AND THE NEIGHBOR, THE LEAST, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE FIVE OF OUR LAND AND PUT OUR FENCE OUT THERE, GIVING US A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER SPACE, WHICH ALLOWS RESIDENTS TO WALK IN THE ALLEY AREA, BUT NOT ON THAT PUBLIC ALLEY ALSO ALLOWS THE CARS TO NOT FEEL LIKE THEY'RE SUPER CLOSED IN, AND IT WOULD ADDITIONALLY REDUCE ANY DAMAGES TO FENCES AND OR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND THAT'S IT.

WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR ANY FEEDBACK.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

UM, I'D HAVE TO GO AHEAD AND GO WITH A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND BEGIN THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A CASE NUMBER EIGHT EIGHT, 2021, UH, FOR MISSION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST FOR A CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 8 20 21.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? OREGON'S I SEE SOMEONE'S COMING UP.

IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

AND ALSO, UM, YOU'LL HAVE FIVE MINUTES AND WHEN FIVE MINUTES COME, YOU WILL BE MUTED.

THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO MAY SOON CITY COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS KELVIN ANNA WALKER.

I LIVE AT EIGHT 13 APPLEWOOD DRIVE, CEDAR HILL, TEXAS.

I AM THE SECRETARY OF THE CEDAR MILL WILTON PARK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT.

WHEN YOU STAND IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REZONING OF 2005 SOUTH JOE WILSON VOTE FROM LOCAL RETAIL TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, WILLIAM HAD ZONE CALLS AND MEMBERS EMAILS WITH THE HUFFINES PROJECT DIRECTORS.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY INFORMATIVE ABOUT WHAT WE CAN EXPECT AND HAS ADDRESSED EVERY CONTINUUM WE PRESENTED TO THEM.

THEIR RESPONSE PLANS HAVE BEEN VERY OUTSTANDING.

MOST OF THE EMAILS WE RECEIVED A RESPONSE WITHIN AN HOUR, WE ARE PLEASED TO SEE, WELL, I SAW SOMEBODY THAT, UM, THERE WERE BEING NO ALLEY ACCESS.

SO I GUESS I'M KIND OF CONFUSED ON THAT BECAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN WE SAID NO ALLEY ACCESS, I THOUGHT THERE WOULD BE NO GATES.

SO WE THERE'S THE MISUNDERSTANDING ON THAT PART.

UM, WE APPRECIATE, WE DO APPRECIATE THE EXTRA SPACE THAT THEY'RE GIVING US, UH, TO WRAP THEM ON THE ALLEYWAY AND APPEARED BOARD IS WORKING ON PROJECTS THAT WE WILL, UM, MOVE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO PREMIERE STATUS.

AND WE BELIEVE THAT HEALTH PLAN PROJECTS WILL HELP US TO DO THAT.

SO IT'S HELPED TIME PRACTICE.

WE'LL BE INSTALLING A NEW STYLE, STREETLIGHTS TREES AROUND LANDSCAPING ON WIDE FOR THE HOAX.

WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE A TREMENDOUS HELP TO OUR PROJECT.

WE WOULD LIKE TO BE KEPT UPDATED ON WHERE THE LIGHTS AND TREES WILL BE PLACED.

SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT IN OUR PLANS AS WELL.

AGAIN, THE WINDSOR PARK PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT STANDS IN AGREEMENT WITH THE REZONING OF 2005 SOUTH DALE WILL SOON GO FROM LOCAL RETAIL DISTRICT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

YES.

WALKER, I'M SORRY.

DID YOU SAY YOUR ALLEY INQUIRY WAS ADDRESSED? DID YOU SEND YOUR, UH, ALLIE INQUIRY WAS ADDRESSED? YOU SAID HE WAS MISUNDERSTANDING.

IT'S BEEN, UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH AND THAT THEY TRY TO EXPLAIN TO US HOW THEY WERE GOING TO DO IT VERSUS STARTED.

I WOULD REMIND HER WHERE THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE ANY GATES FIRST.

IT WAS JUST THE FENCE.

THEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WILL BE GATES FOR EVERY APART, UM, UNIT.

THEN THEY REDUCED IT TO THE SEVEN NUMBER, A LOWER NUMBER OF GATES.

SO, AND THEN ALSO THERE'S A GREEN SPACE IN THERE.

BUT, UM, I THINK, UM, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY'RE SAYING NOW THAT THERE'S NO ACCESS TO THE ALLEY FROM THAT GREEN SPACE.

SO CAUSE THEY GO INTO THE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS, UM, WHY THEY HAVE TO HAVE, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE NEED TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR, THEIR BACKYARDS, BUT I CAN'T SEE WHO I BID THE GATES, BUT PEOPLE HAVE TO COME OUTSIDE OF THE GATES.

WHY CAN'T IT BE WHERE THEY CAN GO INSIDE? AND I THINK THEY'VE ADDRESSED THAT TOO.

THEY SAID THAT THAT WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT SOMEBODY ELSE WALK IT.

THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD WITH IT.

THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE WORKED WITH US VERY WELL.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU, MS. WALKER.

THANK YOU.

YOU DON'T WANT TO ASK PERMISSION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 88, 20 21.

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YOU DON'T ASK A QUESTION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO PD 3 88, 20 21, NOT SEE ANYONE APPROACH AND WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT PERSON AT THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNSEL.

UH, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THE ADVOCATE, SORRY, CUSTOMER REGARDING, YES.

I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, FOR THE TIME YOU TOOK TO, UH, TO SPEAK TO COUNCILMAN GLOVER, UH, AND MYSELF, UH, REALLY APPRECIATE THE, THE EFFORTS AND THE LENGTHS THAT YOU'VE GONE TO, UH, TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, AND, UH, I LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, HOPEFULLY SEEING YOUR PROJECT BREAK GROUND HERE IN CEDAR HILL CUSTOMER HAYDEN.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

MA'AM YES.

I THINK THE, UH, THE SPIRIT OF COOPERATION IS IT HAS BEEN REALLY OUTSTANDING AT THIS POINT, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, TO ME, WHEN A DEVELOPER COMES IN AND WANTS TO DO SOMETHING, BUT YET TAKES THE TIME TO BE ABLE TO VISIT WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WOULD BE BEST AND MAKE A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH.

I THINK THAT'S, UH, SAYS A LOT ABOUT, ABOUT THE BUILDER AND I LIKED THE PRODUCT.

UM, I HAD ONE QUESTION, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE GARAGE, THE WORST, UH, I NOTICED IN THE RENDERING THAT WE JUST, THEY ALL LOOK LIKE ONE GARAGE DOOR FOR, FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, TWO CARS TO FIT IN.

IS IT, ARE THEY GOING TO BE SEPARATE DOORS? ALL OF THEM GOING TO BE A SINGLE GARAGE DOORS.

I THINK THE PLANS ARE FOR ONE DOUBLE DOOR.

SO I THINK IT'S 18 FEET OR SO WIDE.

I'M NOT ACTUALLY.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT REALLY LOOKS GOOD, BUT FROM THE WINDOW ASPECT OF IT, AND THERE WAS SOME HAD, AND SOME DIDN'T IS THAT GOING TO BE THE CHOICE OF THE MOST TO BUY THE PROPERTY OR WHO DECIDES ON I'M A WINDOW GUY FROM MY GARAGE AND I THINK COUNSELING, AND GLOVER'S ALSO A WINDOW GUY WE LEARNED IN OUR MEETING WITH HIM.

UM, SO, UH, I BELIEVE THE PLANS ARE, THE BUILDER WILL BE PICKING THE GARAGE DOORS JUST WITH SUPPLY CHAIN.

IT'S NOT POSSIBLE WHEN SELLING HOMES IS GOING TO BE STAGGERED.

YOU CAN'T JUST LET EACH PERSON PICK AND HAVE NO GARAGE DOOR.

SO THE BUILDER WOULD BE PICKING, UM, THE GARAGE DOORS IN A DECORATIVE FASHION, I THINK WITH, UM, INPUT FROM INTERIOR, NOT NECESSARILY INTERIOR DECORATORS, BUT MAYBE LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTS TO MAKE SURE THAT MATCHES.

BUT I DO THINK THE PLAN IS FOR WINDOWS THAT'S LIGHT TO THE GARAGE.

YEAH.

I THINK THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GOING WITH IS SECURE IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGNERS TO DO THAT.

I THINK SOME OF THE RENDERING TO LOOK GOOD.

AND TO ME, AS YOU PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW ANY BUILDER, THAT IT REALLY ENHANCED THE PRODUCT.

SO, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE DOING THAT.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO CEDAR HILL COURSE.

THANK YOU.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

UM, I'M SORRY, MISS.

YOU MIGHT'VE JUST HANGING ON.

I GOT A COUPLE MORE, OF COURSE, UH, CAUSE, UH, GLOVER, THANK YOU.

I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SPIRIT OF COOPERATION AND MEETING WITH MYSELF AND COUNCILMAN MCCURDY.

UM, ONE THING THAT THAT DID EXPRESS THAT, UM, THE DESIGNS, THE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING MORE CONTEMPORARY, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING FOR, UM, A YOUNGER TARGETED AUDIENCE IN, I KNOW THESE ARE WHERE THE COLORS AND NOT NECESSARILY THE ACTUAL RENDERINGS, BUT I WAS ENVISIONED SOMETHING MORE CONTEMPORARY, SOMETHING LESS FARM, LIKE MY 1980 CONDO, SOMETHING MORE 2021 CONDO.

YES.

SO AS, AS YOU KNOW, THESE ARE JUST RENDERINGS AND WE HAVE, UM, SOME EXAMPLES WE CAN SEND OUT HOW MUCH RENDERINGS CAN DEVIATE, BUT THERE ARE PD REQUIREMENTS.

SO WE DON'T PLAN TO DEVIATE SUBSTANTIALLY FROM WHAT WE'VE PROPOSED.

UM, BUT THE GOOD NEWS IS THE BUILDER IS GOING TO DO WHAT SELLS AND WHAT'S POPULAR.

THEY'RE NOT JUST GOING TO BUILD SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN SAY.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY, WHAT IS THE CURRENT TREND? WHAT IS THE CURRENT, WHAT IS THE PEAK? WHAT DO THE PEOPLE WANT? AND THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD WHAT, UM, IS DESIRABLE.

AND, AND, UM, WHAT I WOULD SAY IS MARKETABLE AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

AND AS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY SAID, UH, IT'S ONE OF THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY COUNCIL IS STRENGTHENING NEIGHBORHOODS.

AND SO, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE NEIGHBORING AT WINDSOR PARK WAS IN SUPPORT.

AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DIDN'T HAVE AN ADVERSE IMPACT ON THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I HAVE A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

SO, UM, CAN YOU GIVE ME A SENSE OF THE PRICE POINTS OF THE NEIGHBOR? I MEAN, OF THESE PROJECTS, I MEAN, WE, WE'RE TARGETING AROUND 2 95 PRICE FIVE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AND SECONDLY, UM, I HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BUT IN THE, IN MATERIAL, I SAW TWO DIFFERENT THINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

YOU MENTIONED, UH, OPEN SPACE OF ABOUT 3.47 ACRES, BUT YOU WENT THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.

IT SAID 2.97.

SURE.

THERE WAS A DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE GREENSPACE ONE WAS ABOUT 20%.

ONE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

AND SO I'M SURE.

CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT FOR, SO WE'RE

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DOING A MINIMUM OF 20%.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE TWO AMENITIES THAT WE WILL BE DOING RIGHT NOW.

IT'S PROBABLY A DOG PARK AND A PLAYGROUND.

THOSE AMENITIES GET A THREE TO ONE CREDIT IN THE CEDAR HILL CODE.

WE'RE NOT INCLUDING THAT THREE TO ONE CREDIT.

WE'RE SAYING AT MINIMUM, REGARDLESS OF ANY AMENITY, WE'RE PROVIDING 20% OPEN SPACE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'LL BE APPLYING TO AMENITY AREAS WHICH ARE ABOUT HALF AN ACRE, WHICH IF YOU DO THE THREE TO ONE CREDIT ON THE HALF AN ACRE, WHICH WE'RE NOT ACCOUNTING FOR, THAT'S NOT GOING INTO OUR BASE 20%.

THAT WOULD BUMP US UP TO ALMOST 30% OF OPEN SPACE.

BUT THAT'S ABOUT THAT ONE ACRE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE 0.5 ACRE DELTA, MAYBE THAT'S GOING INTO THAT.

OKAY.

THAT'S UH, I JUST TURNED TO, SO, OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

UM, SO A COUPLE OF THINGS, THE, THE RENDERING THAT I SAW IN THE RENDERING THAT YOU PRESENTED TONIGHT, AS FAR AS THE LANDSCAPE AND THE TREES WERE QUITE DIFFERENT, UM, ONE WAS GAVE THE IMPRESSION OF THESE VERY, VERY, YOU KNOW, TALL, VIBRANT TREES.

AND THE OTHER ONE WERE ALMOST LOOKED LIKE SHRUBS.

SO JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT WAS, WHAT CHILDREN ARE YOU TALKING, UH, REFER REFERENCING? IS IT THIS, THIS, I THINK YOU'RE YOUR, IS THIS YOUR BROTHER? YEAH, I'M THE OLDER ONE.

OKAY.

SO THERE WAS A ROUNDING THAT HE PRESENTED.

YES.

THOSE GAVE ME THE IMPRESSION OF THESE BIG, BEAUTIFUL FALL TREES, BUT THEN WHAT WAS IN OUR PACKET, DIDN'T LOOK LIKE THAT IS IT I'M TRYING TO ANYWAY, I SPOKE TO THE BUILDING ELEVATION.

OH, THIS ONE IS, I'M ASSUMING THAT'S ONE.

OKAY.

AND THAT DIDN'T LOOK EXACTLY THE SAME THAT THEY DIDN'T LOOK AS VIBRANT AND ROBUST.

OKAY.

THE NOTICE ON THE BOTTOM, THERE ARE NO TREES ON THAT BOTTOM.

SO THE BOTTOM IS DEFINITELY NOT INDICATIVE.

IT WAS JUST A COMPUTER RENDERING, BUT GARRETT, YOU CAN SPEAK SHOWS.

A LOT OF THE BUILDING ELEVATION DOES NOT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE.

AND THAT'S JUST FOCUSING ON THE ACTUAL BUILDING.

UM, THE PEAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A REQUIREMENT OF A MINIMUM OF THREE INCH CALIPER TREES, UM, WHICH IS STANDARD IN THE INDUSTRY AND THE METROPLEX.

UM, AND THAT'S REALLY AT TIME OF INSTALL.

THAT'S ALL WE'RE ABLE TO FIT ON ON THESE SMALL LANDSCAPING AREAS.

UM, SO THEY THEY'LL, THEY WILL GROW UP.

THERE ARE FULL CANOPY SHADE TREES THAT WILL, THAT WILL GROW.

THEY, WON'T A SMALL ORNAMENTAL SHRUB TREES.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO ON THIS EXHIBIT, COUNCILMAN SIMS THAT THERE'S THOSE TWO IN THE MIDDLE ZOOM IN VIEW, THERE'S THE TWO SHADE PLUS ORNAMENTAL FOR THE, THIS IS ON THE ROADS.

SO ADDITIONAL TREE, UM, OVERHEAD VIEW HERE.

OKAY, GREAT.

AND I THINK MY LAST QUESTION WAS TO CLARIFY THIS.

SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU'RE HAVING A FENCE BETWEEN YOUR PROJECT AND WINDSOR PARK.

AND, UM, BUT I ALSO, SO THERE'S SEPARATION, BUT ON YOUR SIDE THERE WAS AN ALLEY.

SO THERE WHERE THE YELLOW LINE IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THIS SLIDE IS WHERE WE PLAN TO BUILD THAT FENCE AFTER THAT BUFFER SPACE.

SO THAT BUFFER SPACE, YOU SEE, I WROTE FIVE FOOT SPACE.

UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT WE'RE GIVING THAT KIND OF AS A MAKING THE ALLEY FIELD, BIGGER, MAKING US THAT THE RESIDENTS WOULD WALK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.

THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WALK ON THE CEMENT ALLEY, THE PUBLIC ALLEY.

SO THERE WOULD BE A FENCE ALL ALONG THAT YELLOW LINE.

AND THEN ON THE TOP MAP, YOU ALSO SEE ANOTHER YELLOW LINE THAT WOULD BE A FENCE.

UM, THE MINIMUM, I THINK IN THE PD IS SIX FEET.

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD TO EIGHT FEET BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS SAID BIGGER, THE BETTER THEY WANT IT TALLER.

SO WE'RE GOING TO DO AN EIGHT FOOT WIDE FENCE THERE.

UM, DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION? AND SO GO BACKYARD FENCE, OUR HOA SPACE AND THEN THE ALLEY.

OKAY.

AND SO THE FENCE IS, IS GOING TO BE THE BACKYARD FENCE AROUND TO BE A SEPARATE FENCE, CORRECT.

THERE'S ONE FENCE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND SO, UM, NOW I'M CLEAR NOW.

OKAY.

UM, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR MEETING WITH, UH, WITH THE RESIDENTS.

UM, I HAVE, UH, A COUPLE OF THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, I LIKE THE CUSTOM GARAGE DOOR.

UM, SO THANKS FOR THINKING ABOUT THAT.

UM, ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO THE MASONRY, UM, I LIKE, I LIKE WHAT I, LIKE WHEN YOU SAY, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PROPERTY NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER TO BE CONSISTENT.

WE DO WANT TO HAVE LITTLE, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANGE DIVERSITY RATHER.

UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO PUT WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE PD? SO, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDER COULD KIND OF KNOW THAT IT WAS A STIPULATION IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO ADD TO IT, OR,

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AND STAFF HAS REALLY GONE ABOVE AND BEYOND THIS AND TAKING THEIR OWN TIME, WHICH WE REALLY APPRECIATE TO CREATE A SPECIFIC EXHIBIT SHOWING WHICH COLOR PALETTES CAN NOT BE REPEATED AND WHERE, AND, YOU KNOW, ACROSS THE STREET, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THERE'S A WHOLE EXHIBIT GOING OVER, UH, REPETITIVE NATURE, VARIETY OF WHERE THE BUILDING AND I'M SUCKING MASONRY, BUT THAT'S ALSO FOR PAIN AS WELL.

OKAY.

UM, THE HRA, WELL, I GUESS BEFORE, BEFORE I BEGIN, UM, I, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE APPRECIATE THE NATURAL BEAUTY OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, UM, I LIKE THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE THAT AS PART OF YOUR CONCEPT.

UM, BUT I GUESS TELL YOU, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE OPEN SPACE THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED BY THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

AND IT IS GOING TO BE MANAGED BY THAT PROFESSIONAL HOA THIRD PARTY, UM, GROUPS.

SO THAT IS GREAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A DOG PARK, I DON'T KNOW WHO REALLY WANTS TO GO PICK UP A BUNCH OF DOG POOP.

SO THERE'LL BE MANAGED.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO THAT YOURSELF, BUT IN ADDITION TO INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTS MANAGING OR PICKING UP, THERE'S GOING TO BE A GROUP COMING IN.

UM, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU SEE ON THIS SITE PLAN HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALL THIS SPACE IN BETWEEN UNITS.

IT'LL BE BETTER FOR EVERYONE TO HAVE ONE GROUP COME IN AND DO IT ALL.

UM, IT'LL BE COHESIVE BETWEEN THE UNITS.

YOU'LL GET COST SAVINGS IF YOU DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME AND YOU'RE NOT PIECEMEALING.

UM, AND THERE WAS QUITE A BIT TO HANDLE.

SO IT'S GOOD FOR THAT.

THIRD-PARTY UM, CAN YOU GO TO THE ALLEY SLIDE AGAIN? SORRY, I'M SORRY.

BEFORE YOU GO TO THE EDDY SLIDE, GO BACK TO THE ONE MORE.

UM, SO I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA USE THE TERM CIVIL PLANS, BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE INTERSECTION HERE.

I MEAN, IS THAT BRICK PAVE OR WHAT, WHAT IS IT, UH, IN THE INTERSECTION? IS THAT REFERRING TO CROSSWALK? YEAH, I THINK THAT WAS JUST TO DEPICT, THERE'S A CROSSWALK THERE, BUT THAT'S NOT INDICATIVE OF WHAT WOULD BE THERE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE TO THE CITY ENGINEERING DETAILS OF, UH, THE STRIPING.

UM, UH, IT'S I DON'T THINK WE HAVE PLANS FOR AN ACTUAL BRICK AND CIRCUIT.

I ABOUT TO GET KUDOS.

I'M LIKE READY.

I MEAN, IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I GOT, I KINDA LIKED, I LIKED THE DISTINCTIVE, YOU KNOW, THE STICK OF CHARACTER.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KIND OF WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH STAFF ON IT.

I MEAN, YOU GET TWO POINTS FOR ME ON THAT.

UM, SO IF YOU GO BACK TO THE ALLEY PICK, PLEASE, THE FIRST ONE, NO, THE ONE WITH THE YELLOW LINE.

YES.

THIS, THIS BOTTOM PICK HERE.

UM, I CAN APPRECIATE THE BUFFER THAT YOU PROVIDING ON THAT.

UH, IF THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, A HOUSE, UH, ON THE, UH, ORIGINAL PROPERTY AND WINDS APART, UH, IF THEY TRYING TO BAG OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BUMP INTO TWO AND TWO OR TWO OFFENSE, SO I APPRECIATE THE BUFFER.

UM, HOWEVER, I DON'T KNOW IF I, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE IDEA OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, EACH RESIDENT HAVING A GATE, SO BASICALLY WINDSOR PARK CAN COME INTO THEIR PROPERTY, BUT AT ANY TIME THEY CAN GO INTO THEIR PROPERTY.

UM, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF I LIKED THE BUFFER GATE.

I MEAN, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT EACH, EACH RESIDENT'S GOING TO HAVE A GATE TO GO TO THEIR PROPERTY.

SO I'M NOT THAT GOOD AT EXPLAINING OR SHOWING IT AS WELL AS I COULD, BUT AT THE TOP OF THE SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE, THERE'S ONLY THREE GATES ON THAT BOTTOM YELLOW.

THOSE ARE THE ONLY THREE ON THAT SECTION BUILDING GROUPING THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY TO THAT ALLEY HOA BUFFER THE OTHER TWO.

DO YOU SEE HOW THEY'RE KIND OF INDENTED UPWARD? THOSE ARE GOING TO BE INTERNAL, MEANING THE WINDSOR PARK COMMUNITY WOULD NEVER SEE THAT GATE.

THAT GATE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

SO YOU'D ONLY ACCESS THAT FROM INSIDE OF THE COMMUNITY.

AND, AND WE UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE SAME CONCERN AS THE NEIGHBORS.

SO ON THIS SLIDE HERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT EVERYTHING NOT HIGHLIGHTED IS, IS NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT EXTERIOR GATE, ALLIE, ALLIGATOR.

IT'S GOING TO BE JUST THOSE ORANGE.

SO IT'S REDUCED TO ONLY 25 GATES AND THE ENTIRE, I DON'T KNOW HOW BIG I'M GOING TO GUESS.

MAYBE LIKE HALF A MILE ALLEY.

SO, YOU KNOW, 25 GATES.

UM, AND IS THERE, YOU KNOW, IT IS, IT IS ON, THERE ONLY WOULD HAVE TO ACCESS IT THROUGH THE HOA PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS MAINTAINED BY THE HRA.

THAT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A GATE IN THEIR BACKYARD.

INTERNAL, IS IT THE REST OF THE NON YELLOW ORANGE? YEAH.

I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE REST OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE NON SOUTHERN BORDER.

YES.

YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE A WOMAN FUZZY ABOUT THE GATE GOING THIS.

YOU CAN SEE THE ACCESS ON THE BACKYARD ON THAT PHOTO AS WELL FOR THE INTERIOR GATES.

EVERY BACKYARD IS GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR BACKYARD, THE PEDESTRIAN GATE, THE WE DO, I DON'T WANT TO OVER-COMPLICATE THINGS, BUT WE DO HAVE THE OPTION OF ELIMINATING THE GATES THAT DO OPEN UP TO THE ALLEY.

IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THAT BUFFER, WE CODE, MOVE THE FENCE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND HAVE THAT, UH, COMMON ACCESS AREA INTERNAL TO THE COMMUNITY.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT? YOU WANT THE SMALLER ALLEY IN THE FENCE OR THE

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FENCE RIGHT ON THAT, UH, PROPERTY LINE.

UM, THERE'S, THERE'S REALLY NO ALTERNATIVE.

IT'S, IT'S SORT OF THE NATURE OF, OF FRONT-ENTRY TOWN.

YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAY, MAYBE YOU MIGHT WANT TO PROVIDE A THREE-FOOT BUFFER.

I WOULD RATHER, YOU PROBABLY GIVE THEM MAYBE THREE MORE FEET INSTEAD OF THIS ACCESS TO THIS.

OKAY.

W WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT AND SEE IF WE CAN FIT THAT.

I THINK WE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT WORK IF WE SHRINK THESE, I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, GET A COUPLE OF MILES I'M STATEMENT.

YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY.

AND THE 1.2 IS, UM, THESE, THESE GATES WILL NOT BE TO THESE PRIVATE BACKYARDS WILL NOT BE NECESSARILY OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IF THEY'RE RIGHT.

EACH HOMEOWNER COULD PUT A LOCK ON THAT GATE.

SO NO ONE WALKING DOWN THE ALLEY CAN WALK INTO THEIR BACKYARD.

I LEARNED ABOUT WINDSOR PARK WALKING TO THEIR PROPERTY.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT THE HOMEOWNER WALKING INTO WINDSOR PARK, JACKSON, WINDSOR PARK.

THAT'S THE COMPROMISE I'M LOOKING FOR.

SURE, SURE.

UM, WELL I THINK ONE THING TO POINT OUT IS RIGHT NOW THAT THIS IS AN OPEN FIELD IN THAT BOTTOM PHOTO.

SO OUR, OUR THOUGHT IS RIGHT NOW, ANYONE CAN GO ON THIS FIELD AND ACCESS ANY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE WINDSOR PARK, ALLEYWAYS AND HOMES.

SO US BUILDING A FENCE FOR THAT ENTIRE, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THAT ALLEY WOULD ACTUALLY POTENTIALLY LIMIT ACCESS AND PROTECT WINDSOR PARK BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE PROVIDING AN ENTIRE BUFFER WITH ONLY 25 PERSONAL PRIVATE GATES VERSUS RIGHT NOW IT'S AN ENTIRE FIELD THAT I WOULD SAY COULD ATTRACT OR BE MORE OPEN AND MORE ACCESSIBLE TO ANYONE.

SO LET'S LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS.

OH, THERE WILL BE.

SO, SO HOW WILL THE HOA WORK WITH EVERY MANAGEMENT ON SITE OR THAT'D BE MORE OF A, IT WILL NOT BE ON-SITE MANAGEMENT.

NO.

OKAY.

UM, AND, AND WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO TALK MORE OFFLINE ABOUT IT, BUT I, I GET, I WANT TO, I WANT WINDSOR PARK TO HAVE A SENSE OF SECURITY THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPEDE ON OUR PROPERTY.

AND WE JUST GOT TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

IN REALITY, THERE ARE THESE, THE ACCESS TO THESE BACKYARD GATES IS GOING TO BE VERY MINIMAL, YOU KNOW, JUST WHENEVER SOMEONE NEEDS TO GO MOW THEIR LAWN.

YEAH.

WE FIRMLY BELIEVE SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO KEEP THEIR LAWNMOWER ON THEIR BACK PATIO AND THEY'LL NEVER GO AROUND CAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO WALK AROUND.

SO OF THE 25 GATES, MAYBE 60% ARE UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, SO I, IT MIGHT SOUND SCARY 25, BUT WE DO BELIEVE THAT'S A FAIRLY LOW NUMBER AND IT SHOULD, IT, THE WHOLE GOAL OF THE WHOLE DESIGN WAS TO IMPACT THEM THE LEAST, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THERE'S NO VEHICLE ACCESS, YOU KNOW, JUST PEDESTRIAN GATES AND MINIMAL AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE.

WE KEEP THE FIVE FOOT BUFFER FOR NOW, BUT I STILL HAVE MORE DISCUSSION OFFLINE BECAUSE, UM, AND ALSO, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU CAN DO THIS, BUT I MEAN, YOU CALL THIS HOME OWNER OCCUPIED.

UM, HOW, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KEEP FROM SUBLEASE? SURE.

WELL, IN THE PD THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, UH, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT LEGAL JARGON, BUT IT SAYS THESE ARE TO BE SOLD TO HOMEOWNERS.

THEY CAN'T BE SOLD TO, UH, INVESTMENT COMPANIES THAT BUY UP FIVE UNITS.

IN ADDITION, THE HOA DOCUMENTS WILL ALSO HAVE LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT AS WELL, MULTIPLE BEING A RENTER OR BEING A LANDOWNER AND HAVING MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.

ALL WE DO NOT, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

IT'S A DETRIMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND IT, IT CREATES ONGOING ISSUES WHERE AN INVESTMENT COMPANY OWNS THE PROPERTY THAT LIVES STATES AWAY AND THEY DON'T MAINTAIN IT.

THEY'RE NOT PAYING THEIR HOA DUES.

SO IT CAUSES ISSUES FOR US AS WELL.

WELL, I MEAN YOU, THAT THE CELL TO ME IS THIS IS HORRIBLE, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER OCCUPIED.

SO THAT'S GOING TO BE MY EXPECTATION, UM, AS IT RELATES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HALL, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, PRODUCT, UH, I REALLY LIKED THE DIVERSITY THAT YOU PROVIDING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

SO I CAN, I CAN RESPECT THAT.

UH, I LIKE THE ELEVATION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING AND, UH, OF COURSE I DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, TYPE OF MASONRY.

UH, I LOVE THE OPEN SPACE.

I LOVE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT DOG PARK, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AS WELL.

UH, SO, SO I LIKED THE APPROACH TO IT.

UM, JUST THAT ONE THING TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A SENSE OF SECURITY.

AND THEN I THINK WE GOT A SLAM DUNK.

SO, AND WE DO WANT TO THANK THAT WINDSOR PARK PAID FOR WORKING SO CLOSELY WITH US.

IT WAS A TWO-WAY STREET.

THEY WERE WILLING TO TAKE CALLS AND IT WAS ALWAYS AFTER WORK HOURS AND THEY WERE WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, JUMP ON FOR HOUR LONG ZOOM AT SIX 30 ON A FRIDAY, WHICH WAS VERY NICE TO HAVE THAT FEEDBACK.

YEAH.

AND, AND LET ME SAY FOR THE RECORD, UH, THERE WAS A PARK ESTABLISHED TO PA AND HOW THEY DID THAT.

THEY LITERALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND IT WAS AS A SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

UM, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT.

SO, UH, NOT SAYING THEY DON'T WANT TO BE NEIGHBORS, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR DEVELOPMENT, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, ALL THE WORK THAT THEY PUT IN, THEY WOULD HATE FOR THAT TO GO AWAY OVERNIGHT.

SO WE JUST TRYING TO PROTECT THAT.

OF COURSE.

THANK YOU GUYS SLOWLY.

THANK YOU.

AND

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WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERING OUR COMMUNITIES.

ALL RIGHT, COUNCIL, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THEM? IF NOT ON THE, IS UP MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, CASE NUMBER PD 3 8 8 2 0 2 1.

UM, WE ASKED HER FOR APPROVAL.

NOW THE GARAGE IS THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADD IS ALREADY THERE.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UH, SO YOU SAYING CONCURRENT WITH THE PLANS ON HIM RECOMMENDATION, IS THAT YOUR MOTION? YES.

WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR, BUT YOU HAVE A SECOND.

WE DO HAVE A SECOND CUSTOMER HAYDEN, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, IF NOT, ONLY FOR A FEW DAYS RIGHT HERE.

WELL UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU.

AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE, WITH THE COMMUNITY AND WORKING WITH STAFF.

ALSO, LET ME SAY FOR THE RECORD, UM, WE, WE ARE GOING THROUGH A, UM, A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT'S DUE TO BE ADOPTED IN ABOUT MAYBE 30 DAYS, THE FACT THAT YOU STILL GOING THROUGH 2008 STANDARDS AND ALSO GOING THROUGH A PROPOSED STANDARDS THAT REALLY SPEAKS A LOT TO ME AS WELL, THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BE, TO BE FLEXIBLE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET ON THE SAME PAGE HERE.

COUNSEL AM I AM I DONE PROTEIN, THE PET.

OKAY.

COOL.

ALL RIGHT.

GET BACK ON THE

[b. Case No. CUP-395-2021 – Conduct a public hearing and consider an application for a Conditional Use Permit for “general merchandise, other than listed” [Dutch Bros. Coffee] on property zoned “LR” (Local Retail) District, located on the north side of East Belt Line Road, west of North Joe Wilson Road with the approximate address being in the 600-700 Block of East Belt Line Road. Applicant: Sam Moore, MMCG DBR DFW, LLC. Property Owner: Gordon Edwards, Belt Line/Joe Wilson 2, LTD. ]

RIGHT NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM B CASE NUMBER C U P 3 95, 20 21.

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OTHER THAN LIST IT THAT'S BERNARD THAT'S BROTHERS COFFEE, PROPERTY ZONED LOCAL RITO LR DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EAST BELTLINE ROLLER LISTEN ROLLED, BUT THE APPROXIMATELY ADDRESS BEING IN THE 600 700 BLOCK OF EAST BELTLINE ROAD.

APPLICANT'S SAM MOORE, M M C G DVR, DFW, LLC, PROPERTY OWNERS, GORDON EDWARDS, BELTLINE, JOE, LISTEN TO LTD.

DO WE HAVE AN APPLICANT HERE WITH US TODAY? YES, SIR.

HELLO, PLEASE.

UH, GIVE US YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD.

SHOULD HAVE SOME MORE 57 50 GENESIS COURT, SUITE 1 0 3, FRISCO, TEXAS 75 0 3 4.

THANK Y'ALL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST TONIGHT, DUTCH BROS COFFEE, UM, WAS FORMERLY THE LARGEST, UH, PRIVATE COFFEE COMPANY BEFORE BECOMING PUBLIC.

UM, BACK IN SEPTEMBER, UH, ORIGINALLY THEY STARTED BACK IN GRANTS, PASS OREGON BETWEEN TWO BROTHERS AS A SMALL ESPRESSO PUSHCART OPERATION.

UM, THAT WAS BACK IN THE NINETIES SINCE THEN OVER THE PAST, OVER THE PAST 30 YEARS, THEY'VE ESTABLISHED THEIR FOUNDATION ALL OVER THE WEST COAST AND NOW THEY'RE STARTING THEIR MOVEMENT OVER TO THE EAST.

NOW THAT THEY'RE A PUBLICLY TRADED COMPANY, SO WE'VE HELPED THEM EXPAND INTO THE DFW AND HOUSTON MARKETS OVER THE PAST YEAR.

AND, UM, CEDAR HILL IS PROPOSED TO BE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES WITHIN DFW TO RECEIVE A STAND.

SO WHAT THE OPERATION IS IS IT'S A 950 SQUARE FOOT DRIVE-THROUGH COFFEE SHOP.

TRADITIONALLY WE WOULD HAVE ONLY DRIVE-THROUGH AND WALKUP SERVICES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'RE PROPOSING TO, UM, ADDITIONAL FEATURES FOR 600 SQUARE FEET ABOUT DOOR SITTING AREA FOR ANYONE THAT WANTS TO COME UP AND ENJOY THEIR CUP OF COFFEE.

UM, WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC RESTAURANT FOR ANYONE THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE.

UM, I'LL TRY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO BRING UP THE BACKEND, BUT, UM, REALLY WE'RE PRIMARILY A DRIVE-THROUGH OPERATION, BUT IN ADDITION TO IT, WE'RE PROVIDING OUTDOOR SEATING, UM, TO BE ABLE TO HELP PROVIDE VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY.

OUR HOPE IS THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, YOU KNOW, AN ADDITIONAL ASSET TO THE CEDAR HILL COMMUNITY FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

WE HAVE A FEW, UM, OPEN THE DFW MARKET AND WE'RE HONORED TO PRESENT TO CEDAR HILL TO Y'ALL TONIGHT.

ALRIGHT, THANKS FOR BOTH OF THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS.

AND THEN, UH, WE'LL BRING YOU BACK UP.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND, AND GROW PRESENTATION BY THE WAY.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, CASE NUMBER C U P 3 95, 20 21, YOU KNOW, AND LISTEN TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER C U P 3 95, 20 21.

NOT SEEING ANYONE APPROACH BECAUSE THAT PERSON HAS A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, COUNCIL, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FOR THAT ADVOCATE? NO QUESTION HERE, BUT I'D LIKE TO MOVE.

WE APPROVE THE P 3 9 5 2 0 2 1.

RIGHT? WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

AND A SECOND ONE QUESTION I HAVE, AND JUST LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN.

UM, UH, I GUESS YOU DO HAVE PARKING ON WITHIN YOUR, UH, DEVELOPMENT.

I KIND OF SEE SOME OFF-SITE PARKING AS WELL, SO I'M ALREADY GOT TO PULL IT UP.

THAT'S ACTUALLY WITHIN THE TOGETHER CREDIT UNIONS PROPERTY

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CURRENTLY WE HAVE, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE 13 PARKS SHOWN ON HERE.

WE DO AGREE TO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS THAT PLANNING HAS REQUESTED.

SO WE'RE GOING TO LOSE TWO ADDITIONAL PARKS, WHICH WILL BRING US DOWN TO 11, BUT WILL GET US TO THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT FOR THE STREET YARD TREES.

SO WE'LL HAVE 11 ONSITE.

OKAY.

SO LET'S SAY SEVEN HERE AND SEE, I GUESS, CORRECT.

THERE'S SIX TO THE SOUTH.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

SO YOU SAID YOU'RE GOING TO ADD TO THE 13 THAT'S SHOWN HERE.

SO WE HAVE 13, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE TWO TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE MINIMUM MINIMUM STREET YARD TREES.

OH, OKAY.

GOTCHA.

ALL RIGHT.

PERFECT.

THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I GOT.

UH, DO I HAVE A MOTION FROM CUSTOMER HAYDEN? DIDN'T HAVE A SECOND FROM THE MAYOR, PROTEIN, ANYTHING, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? CONSTANT.

IF NOT ON A PHONE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND.

THANK YOU MINUTES.

WELCOME TO SIT HERE.

THANK YOU.

[c. Case No. PD-387-2021 – Conduct a public hearing and consider an application for a change in zoning from “RR” (Rural Residential – minimum 2-acre lots) District to “PD” (Planned Development) District for single-family residential on approximately 68.83 acres generally located on the east side of South Duncanville Road, south of Bear Creek Road with the approximate address being 1780 South Duncanville Road. Applicant: David Hill, Allied Development. Representative: Jerry Sylo, JBI Partners. Property Owner: Donna Maston, Carel Stone and Daniel Stone with Stone Family Trust & Stone CL Builders.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC HEARING CASE NUMBER PD 3 8 7 20 21.

I COUPLE AT THE PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR A CHANGE IN SONY FROM OUR, OUR VERB, RESIDENTIAL MINIMUM TWO ACRE LOTS DISTRICT TWO PD PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL ON APPROXIMATE 68 POINT 83 ACRES JR.

LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE, UH, SOUTH OF THE BALE ROAD, SOUTH OF BEAR CREEK ROAD WITH THEIR POTSTOWN HSB IN 1780 SOUTH DAKOTA BEAR ROAD ADVOCATE, DAVID HERE AND I DEVELOPMENT REPRESENTATIVE JERRY SILO, JBI PARTNERS, PROPERTY OWNERS, DONNA MATTSON, CAROL STONE AND DANIEL STONE WITH STOLEN FAMILY CHURCH IN STONE CL BUILDER.

DO WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE, BUT THAT'S TODAY.

GOOD EVENING.

YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE.

YES, SIR.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS JERRY SILO.

I'M WITH JBI PARTNERS, 2121 MIDWAY ROAD IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS.

UH, WE DO REPRESENT ALLIED DEVELOPMENT THIS EVENING AND THEY WILL BE THE DEVELOPERS OF THE PROPERTY.

APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S TIME TONIGHT.

I DO HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION THAT I'D LIKE TO GO OVER, UH, JUST FOR REFERENCE PURPOSES.

UM, ADDISON HILLS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD OF APPROXIMATELY 69 ACRES.

UH, IT BASICALLY THE SOUTH EAST PART OF TOWN, YOUR BEAR CREEK AND DUNCAN GROVE ROAD, SOUTH OF 1382, UH, IMMEDIATELY SOUTH OF THE BEAR CREEK RANCH NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THAT'S EXISTING RIGHT NOW AND, UH, AT THE INTERSECTION OF BEAR CREEK AND DUNCANVILLE ROAD FOR REFERENCE LONG-TERM BEAR CREEK AND DUNCANVILLE BEARCREEK ROAD IS BASICALLY GOING TO BE WHERE LUKE NINE IS WHEN IT ULTIMATELY DOES GET BUILT.

SO THAT'S THE CONFIGURATION.

THAT'S THE, UH, THE ALIGNMENT OF LUKE NINE.

I'M SORRY.

WHERE IS IT COMING ABOUT THE NINE MINUTE.

PARDON ME? WHAT WAS YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE ALIGNMENT? UH, BEAR CREEK ROAD IS WHERE LUKE NINE WILL ULTIMATELY BE.

SO IN REFERENCE IN THE FUTURE WITH REGARDS TO OUR PROPOSAL, WE ARE PROPOSING A NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, OF 236 HOMES.

AND I DO MAKE THE DISTINCTION AND YOU WILL HEAR THROUGHOUT MY ENTIRE PRESENTATION IS WE, IT IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE MAKE A VERY BIG DISTINCTION.

ALLY, UH, MAKES A BIG DISTINCTION.

JBR MAKES THE BIGGEST STATION.

WHEN WE DO DESIGN OUR GOAL, CREATE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS SUBDIVISIONS NEIGHBORHOODS OR PLACES WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE NEIGHBORHOODS OR PLACES THAT YOU REFERENCED WHEN SOMEBODY ASKS YOU WHERE YOU LIVE.

I LIVE IN ADDISON HILLS, A SUBDIVISION.

IF YOU LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION AND THEY ASKED YOU WHERE YOU LIVE, I LIVE IN CEDAR HILL BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S THE BEST ANCHOR THAT THEY CAN HAVE BECAUSE THE SUBDIVISION IS JUST SOME PLACE WHERE YOU PARK YOUR CAR AND GO INSIDE YOUR HOUSE.

AND YOU'LL SEE WHAT THE DESIGN OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR GOAL IS TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESIDENTS TO BUILD FRIENDSHIPS, WHETHER THEY'RE CHILDREN, WHETHER THEY'RE ADULTS, WHETHER THEY'RE PEOPLE VISITING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE, WE TRY TO ENGAGE OUR RESIDENTS BY, UH, CREATING.

IN THIS INSTANCE, WE CREATED A CHAIN OF COMMON GRAINS AND OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ANCHOR, BOTH ON THE EAST AND WEST SIDE, UH, BY PONDS AND NATURAL AREAS, UH, WITH A GREEN BELT, UH, RUNNING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND HE SENT HER UP, UH, APPROXIMATELY THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD PARK, UH, WITHIN THE CENTRAL POWER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT WILL BE THAT ANCHOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO AS YOU CAN SEE, NO MATTER WHERE YOU'RE LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, YOU HAVE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE, AND YOU HAVE A MEANS TO GET THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO GO TO OTHER GREEN SPACES AND OPEN SPACES.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOP IN LIKE, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GET YOUR PARENTS TO HOP IN A CAR TO GO OVER TO THE TOT LOT OR WHEREVER TO THE OTHER OPEN SPACE.

UH, THE, A MANATEE OUT OF NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE POND, UM, WILL ALSO SERVE AS A RETENTION POND FOR THE DRAINAGE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, IT WILL BE A CONSTANTLY, UH, ROUTER FILLED POND WITH AN, WITH AN AERATION, A FOUNTAIN SYSTEM.

AND, UH, IT, THAT THAT, THAT AREA IS GOING TO BE MUCH MORE OF A MANICURED AREA.

AND THEN THERE ARE EXHIBITS IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWED DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UH,

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OPEN SPACES THAT WE ENVISIONED FOR THE, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, BUT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A MANICURED AREA.

THE OPEN SPACE ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT MUCH MORE, UM, NATURAL IT'S SETTING AS YOU CAN, ALL OF THE TREES THAT WE'RE SHOWING ON THAT EXHIBIT, UH, WHETHER THEY'RE IN THE WESTERN AREA, IN THE TOP SPOT OR IN THE EASTERN AREA, UH, THOSE ARE ALL EXISTING TREES THAT OUR GOAL IS TO MAINTAIN THOSE TREES ON THE SITE.

UH, AS STAFF, AS INDICATED IN THEIR STAFF REPORT, UH, WE ARE MAINTAINING APPROXIMATELY 7,000, UH, CALIBER INCHES OF TREES ON THE PROPERTY, UH, THAT, UH, WESTERN AREA, WHICH IS JUST AROUND FIVE ACRES, UH, THAT THE POND IS A NATURAL POND.

THERE'S A CREEK RUNNING THROUGH IT.

UH, WE, WE, WE INTEND TO KEEP THAT AREA AS NATURAL AS WE CAN KEEP IT WITH.

ONCE AGAIN, THE POND WILL SERVE AS RETENTION FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WILL CONSTANTLY BE WET.

UH, THERE WILL BE A FOUNTAIN IN THERE TO KEEP AERATION GOING AND KEEP IT FLOWING.

UH, BUT THE GOAL IS TO KEEP IT AS NATURAL AS POSSIBLE, UH, BECAUSE AS, AS WE SIT THERE AND TALK TO, BUT WHEN WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THE DESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, EVERYBODY GETS BACK TO THAT POINT OF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THE ABILITY, YOU NEED SOME PLACE FOR A KID TO GO HANG OUT IN THE CREEK.

UH, AND REALLY, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'VE, WE FOCUSED THAT AREA ON FOR, FOR, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, AS I MENTIONED, WE WERE PROPOSING 246 HOMES, UH, WHICH COMES OUT TO RIGHT AT 3.6 HOMES PER ACRE, UH, OF THOSE HOMES, UH, 12 WILL BE ON 80 FOOT WIDE LOT MINIMUMS, 128 WOULD BE ON 60 FOOT WIDE LOT MINIMUMS AND 106 WOULD BE ON 50 FOOT WIDE LOT.

UH, THE 50 FOOT WIDE, LOTS OF WHAT WE'RE CALLING TYPE ONE, LOTS.

THOSE ARE THE BLUE LOTS ON THE SOUTHERN SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THE TYPE TWO LOTS ARE THE 60 FOOT WIDE LOT MINIMUMS, WHICH IN THE MIDDLE PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE TYPE OF THREE LOTS ARE THE 80 FOR Y LOS.

AND THOSE ARE RUNNING ALONG OUR NORTH PROPERTY LINE NEXT TO THE BEAR CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD.

AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS WITH THE STAFF, WE STARTED WORKING WITH THE STAFF BACK IN EARLY SUMMER, UH, ON THIS DESIGN AND HAVING MEETINGS WITH THEM, COLLABORATING WITH THEM.

THE DESIGN THAT I JUST WENT OVER IS, HAS BEEN A VERY COLLABORATIVE DESIGN WITH THE STAFF.

UH, WE'VE HAD INTERACTIONS SINCE MAY OR JUNE WITH, WITH THE GROUP, UM, ARE OUT OF DETAIL WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UM, AS THE COUNCIL MAY BE UNDER THE, UH, STREET WITH IN CEDAR HILL ARE 27 FOOT WIDE AND NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES.

IF PEOPLE ARE PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET TO BE ABLE TO HAVE EASIER ACCESS THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS.

UH, WE WORKED WITH THE STAFF AT ONE POINT, WE HAD SEPARATE, UH, PARKING SPACES, UH, FOR VISITOR PARKING.

UH, BUT WHAT WE ULTIMATELY DECIDED TO DO WORKING WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UH, IS ALL THE STREETS WITHIN ADDISON HILLS WILL BE 31 FEET WIDE FACE OF CURB INTERFACE OCCURRED, UH, TO PROVIDE MUCH BETTER ACCESS FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS, UH, FOR GARBAGE TRUCKS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, MOVING VANS, UH, EVEN IF SOMEBODY IS PARKED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE ALSO, IN TERMS OF WORKING WITH THE STAFF, OUR ORIGINAL PROPOSAL HAD THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCES MUCH CLOSER TOGETHER AT THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'VE SPREAD THOSE OUT WHERE YOU, AS YOU CAN SEE, ARE, UH, COMING FROM NORTH TO SOUTH BREVARD ENTRANCE, RIGHT WHERE THE PROPERTY IS ADJACENT TO DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

UH, THAT'S GOING TO BE THE PRIMARY ENTRANCE FOR MOST PEOPLE ENTERING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE'LL HAVE A SECONDARY ENTRANCE AT THE FAR SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THAT WAS MUCH HIGHER UP IN, IN ALONG DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

ORIGINALLY WE HAD THE CUL-DE-SAC DOWN THERE, FUNDING THE LAKE, UH, FAIRLY EXPRESSED A CONCERN WITH THOSE ENTRANCES BEING TOO CLOSE FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENED.

UH, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE PUT THAT SECOND ENTRANCE, UH, AT THE FAR SOUTH END ALONG DUNCANVILLE ROAD TO GIVE A BETTER SEPARATION IN CASE SOMETHING DID HAPPEN UP TOWARDS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE ALSO WORKED VERY SIMILARLY WITH THE PREVIOUS, UH, TOWNHOME GROUP WITH THE STAFF, UM, WITH, WITH THE BRC, THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE HAVE VERY DETAILED ARCHITECTURAL CONTROLS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

UH, THERE WAS AN EXHIBIT IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS A LOT OF VARIATION IN TERMS OF WHAT THE HOMES WILL LOOK LIKE, UH, WITHIN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

THOSE, THOSE PICTURES ARE A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THE TEXT IN THE ORDINANCE SAYS.

SO IF YOU FOLLOW THE TEXT IN THE ORDINANCE, THOSE PICTURES OF THE HOMES ARE WHAT THE HOMES WILL LOOK LIKE.

UH, AND THEY ARE, IT IS A VERY BROAD SPECTRUM OF WHAT CAN BE USED, DIFFERENT BUILDING MATERIALS.

UH, WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IS I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, HE SAID, LIST OF 10 ARCHITECTURAL ITEMS THAT THE BUILDER HAS TO CHOOSE FOUR OF THEM TO, TO INCORPORATE INTO THE FRONT DESIGN OF THE HOUSE SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO THAT COOKIE CUTTER, THAT EVERY HOUSE LOOKS THE SAME, SO THAT IF SOMEBODY'S SPENDING $400,000 ON A HOUSE, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

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HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT THE HOUSE LOOKS LIKE.

UH, SO THERE, THERE IS A LIST OF ITEMS, UH, THAT RANGE FROM BUILDING MATERIALS RANGE FROM TYPES OF WINDOWS RANGE, FROM TYPES OF DOORS, UH, WHETHER YOU HAVE DORMERS OR DIFFERENT TYPES OF ROOF LINES, A HIP ROOF VERSUS A GABLE ROOF, EITHER GIVE THE HOME BUILDERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE SOME CREATIVITY IN TERMS OF DESIGN.

AND IT GIVES THE HOMEOWNER THE ABILITY TO HAVE SOME DECISION DECISION-MAKING AUTHORITY INTO WHAT THEIR HOUSE IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW IF YOU'RE SPENDING $400,000 FOR SOMETHING YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME SAY IN WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE VERSUS REQUIRING THESE SHALL BE, BE LOOKED LIKE THIS.

AS WE WENT THROUGH THE COLLABORATION PROCESS, WE ENDED UP COMING.

WE WERE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED TO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, UH, IN EARLY NOVEMBER.

UH, LET ME GET THE DATE RIGHT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS NOVEMBER 16TH.

UH, WE MET WITH THE COMMISSION, WE HAD A PRESENTATION, UH, WE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT OUR PROPOSAL WAS.

NOW, WHAT WE DID THROUGH WORKING WITH THE STAFF IS THE NORMAL PROCESS IN TERMS OF, UH, WE CONTACTED THE, IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, WE CONTACTED THE BIRD CREEK HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, WHICH IS A ASSOCIATION MANAGED BY A THIRD PARTY GROUP, UH, SENT THAT INFORMATION PACKETS, FOLLOWED UP WITH THEM A COUPLE TIMES, UH, AND DID NOT RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THEM AT ALL.

SO WE FELT THAT WE PROVIDED OUTREACH TO THEIR NEIGHBORS AND RECEIVED NO FEEDBACK.

SO WE, WE FELT CONFIDENT THAT WHEN WE WERE MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE WERE FOLLOWING WHAT THE WISHES OF OUR NEIGHBORS WERE.

WE HEARD A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT STORY, UH, AS, AS A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING IN NOVEMBER, THE NUMBER OF NEIGHBORS WHO HAD STRONG EXPRESSED CONCERNS REGARDING WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING, PLANNING COMMISSION, RIGHTFULLY TABLED A REQUEST, UH, TO GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO MEET WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.

UH, WE HAVE, IF, YOU KNOW, FROM LOOKING AT THE AREA, WE HAVE SORT OF TWO TYPES OF NEIGHBORS.

WE HAVE THE MORE RURAL NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT THERE IN THIS PART OF TOWN FOR QUITE A LONG TIME ON LARGE ACREAGE.

AND WE HAVE THE MORE SUBURBAN NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE IN, IN BEAR CREEK THAT ARE PRIMARILY OF YOURS.

JUST MISS PORTION OF BEAR CREEK ARE JUST MOVING IN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO DIFFERENT NEEDS, DIFFERENT EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT OUR NEIGHBORS WERE.

UH, SO WHAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DO IS WE TRY TO MEET WITH AS MANY AS WE COULD.

WE REACHED OUT TO THEM, BUT WE WERE VERY COOPERATIVE AND MEETING WITH US A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION TO THE PREVIOUS ONE.

UH, WE MET WITH THE BUREAU CREEK FOLKS AT ONE OF THEIR HOMES ONE EVENING.

UH, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY, WE PROBABLY HAD ABOUT 15 OR 20 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AT THAT.

AND I THINK IT WAS EVERYBODY EXCEPT FOR ONE PROPERTY OWNER ON MIDDLE LAKE ROAD, WHICH IS THAT THE ROAD ON THE NORTH SIDE, THAT FIRST ROAD IN, IN BEAR CREEK.

AND THEN WE MET WITH A COUPLE OF OUR RURAL NEIGHBORS.

THE ONE THING IS, AS YOU SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE SLIDE IN THE TOP IMAGE, THERE WAS A LARGE EIGHT ACRE PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE.

THAT'S OWNED BY ONE, UH, UH, HUSBAND AND WIFE, UH, AND DAVID HILL FROM AIR.

I WAS ABLE TO MEET WITH THEM.

WE ALSO MET WITH THE KILZ, WHICH WERE IMMEDIATELY ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

WE ARE SOUTH ENTRANCES.

AND ONCE AGAIN, THEY, THEY, THEY LIVE IN A VERY NICE HOME, COUPLE OF ACRES.

UH, THEY HAVE NOT LIVED OUT OF THAT.

THEY HAVE NOT LIVED OUT THERE LONG.

UH, THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT WHAT WE WERE PROPOSING SO THAT WE DID WAS WE MET WITH EVERYBODY, UH, TRY TO, UM, WORK WITHIN CONSTRAINTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT CONSTRAINTS OF WHAT THEY WERE ASKING FOR.

AND WHAT YOU'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

WE PRESENTED IT TO THE FINANCE ON THE COMMISSION, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT THESE STANDARDS COME FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL.

SO ON OUR NORTH PROPERTY AMP, ALONG OUR NORTH PROPERTY LINE, WHERE RIVER CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD IS, WE CREATED THOSE TYPE THREE LOTS.

WE ORIGINALLY, THOSE WERE ORIGINALLY 60 FOOT WIDE.

LOTS OF THE NEIGHBORS EXPRESSED CONCERN THAT WE'RE TOO SMALL NEXT TO THEIR HOMES.

UH, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE WIDENED ALL THOSE LOTS TO 80 FOOT WIDE MINIMUM, WHICH IS WHAT THEIR HOMES ARE.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON THAT SIDE, THE SIDE PROPERTY LINES LINEUP, AS A RESULT OF THAT ERA HAS LOST FOUR LAST, WE WERE ORIGINALLY 250.

NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 246.

SO IT DOESN'T IMPACT FROM, FROM, FOR ALLY.

UH, BUT ON THAT POINT, UH, WHAT WE ALSO HAVE PROPOSED TO DO IS THAT ONCE AGAIN, IN KEEPING WITH, UH, THE BIRD CREEK FOLKS IS TO WHATEVER WAS TO TRY TO, WE WERE TOLD DURING OUR MEETINGS, WE WERE TOLD DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THAT PEOPLE THAT BLOCK IN THE BEAR CREEK NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE THAT BOUGHT THOSE HOMES WERE TOLD THAT THE AREA TO THE SOUTH, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD FUTURE NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD NEVER BE DEVELOPED.

IT WAS ALWAYS GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE THAT THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE HOME, THIS REAL ESTATE PEOPLE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH US.

UH, AND THEY, THEY FELT LIKE THEY WERE, UH, SOLAR BOOKER GOODS.

UH,

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YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL HOMEOWNERS.

IF WE GOT PUT IN THAT SAME SITUATION, WE'D PROBABLY HAVE THE SAME FEELINGS THAT THEY DID.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE SAYING, OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, W WE CAN'T NOT DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT OUR, MY CLIENT DOES.

THEY BUILD HOMES FOR PEOPLE TO LIVE IN CEDAR HILL, BUT LET'S TRY TO MAKE IT AS COMPARABLE TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE CAN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE RIDE IN THE LAS TO 80 FOOT.

THAT'S WHY WE INCREASED THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE.

AT THE TIME, WE WERE PROPOSING A MINIMUM 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE FOR THOSE LOTS.

AND WHAT WE ALSO PROPOSE, UH, WAS THAT, UH, INSTEAD OF THE SIX FOOT HIGH SCREENING FENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE ON OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, BUT THE HOME BUILDER WILL BUILD BUILDING EIGHT FOOT TALL SCREEN EVENTS WORKING WITH THE HOMEOWNERS.

UH, AND, AND, AND THIS IS FREE UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THAT ADJACENT HOMEOWNER IN BERRY CREEK.

IF THAT HOMEOWNER WOULD LIKE THE BUILDER TO TAKE THAT, TAKE THEIR SOUTH FENCE LINE DOWN AND INSTALL THIS NEW EIGHT FOOT FENCE AS A COMMON FENCE BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY LINES, THE HOME BUILDER WILL DO THAT.

IF, IF THE BURPEE HOME OWNER SAYS, NO, WE WANT OUR FENCE AND THEY HAVE SIX FOOT HIGH FENCES, THEIR HOA DOESN'T ALLOW ANYTHING TALLER THAN A SIX FOOT FENCE.

IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR SIX FOOT FENCE, THEY CAN KEEP THEIR SIX FOOT FENCE.

AND THE HOMEBUILDER WE'RE BUILDING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO IT.

SO YOU'LL HAVE FENCE BACKING UP THE FENCE TO FENCE, BUT IT IS 100% AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BEAR CREEK HOMEOWNERS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

SO ANY BUILDER THAT'S BUILDING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD UNDERSTANDS WHAT THE REQUIREMENTS ARE FOR THE KILLERS ERS, WHICH ARE, WHO ARE IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF US.

AND THIS IS THAT SOUTH ENTRANCE THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, THAT WE, THAT WE SLID DOWN THERE TO TRY TO ADDRESS EMERGENCY CONCERNS.

WE WERE ORIGINALLY PROPOSING A 20 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BETWEEN THE STREET, OUR SOUTH PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN IT WOULD BE THE KILLER'S PROPERTY.

I RECEIVED EVERY EXPRESS CONCERNS ABOUT NEIGHBORHOOD, THE TRAFFIC BEING ASSOCIATED WITH IT COMING IN, THAT'S THEIR FRONT YARD, SEEING ALL THE RIGHTS, SEEING ALL THE ACTIVITY.

UH, SO WHAT WE DID WAS WE HAVE INCREASED THAT BUFFER FROM 20 FEET TO 40 FEET.

UH, WE ARE PUTTING IN A MINIMUM THREE FOOT HYPER, AND THEN WE WERE PUTTING IN SCREENING TREES.

THE CITY HAS ZONING ORDINANCE.

THEY HAVE A LIST OF ALLOWED TREES FOR SCREENING.

WE WERE IN OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.

WE SAY, WE WILL HAVE TREES 34 ON-CENTER FROM TREES WITHIN THAT SCREENING LIST.

AND WE WOULD PLANT THOSE WHEN THE PROPERTY IS DEVELOPED, SO THAT AS THEY MATURE, YOU WILL HAVE A THREE FOOT HIGH BERM.

AND THEN THE SCREEN TREES ON TOP OF THAT TO PROVIDE THAT VISUAL SCREENING, UH, BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE KITCHENER'S PROPERTY.

WHAT WE'VE ALSO DONE IS WE HAVE, UH, WORKED WITH THE CLOSERS.

WE ARE GOING TO DO A, UH, SIX FOOT TALL TUBULAR STEEL FENCE FROM THE EDGE OF THE RUNAWAY DUNCANVILLE ROAD, ADJACENT TO OUR COMMON PROPERTY LINE.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE, YOU'LL HAVE OUR PROPERTY LINE, YOU'LL HAVE THE SIX FOOT TUBULAR STEEL FENCE, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE, AND LANDSCAPING ALL THE ADDISON HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THAT'S THAT, UH, JUNIOR OFFENSE WILL GO DOWN AS CLOSE AS WE CAN GET IT TO THE CREEK BEST DOWN THERE AS POSSIBLE.

I RECEIVED CAMP STRUCK THE FLOW IN THE CREEK.

UH, IT IS A NATURALLY FLOWING STREAM, SO WE CAN'T STRIKE THAT.

SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, SINCE WE ARE KEEPING THAT AREA NATURAL ON OUR SIDE, THAT'S THAT BIG FIVE ACRE OPEN SPACE THAT WE'RE HAVING.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS A DELINEATION BETWEEN ADDISON HILLS PROPERTY AND THE KILLER'S PROPERTY.

SO WE DON'T GET KIDS RUNNING OUT OF THEIR PROPERTY.

UH, SO IT'LL BE PRETTY CLEAR THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD STOPS HERE IN THE KEEL CENTERS PROPERTY STARTS THERE.

UM, THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED FROM THESE AMENDMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL, UH, HAD BEEN AGREEABLE WITH THE KILLERS HAVE BEEN AGREEABLE WITH THE BEAR CREEK FOLKS.

UH, WE ALSO HAVE WORKED WITH, UM, AND I, I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T REMEMBER THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER'S NAME OF THE EIGHT ACRE TRACT.

UH, BUT WE ALLY HAS WORKED WITH THEM, UH, AND THEY ARE WORKING OUT SOME ARRANGEMENT WHERE INSTEAD OF US, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HOUSES BACKING UP TO THEM, THEY HAD, THEY HAVE A, A NICE BACKYARD AREA, SWIMMING POOL, GRANDKIDS COME SEE ALL THE TIME.

UH, AND, BUT THERE'S, AS YOU SEE, UH, IN THE, ON THE LOWER RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THAT, WHERE YOU SEE THE TWO GREEN CIRCLES, THAT'S THEIR BACKYARD.

SO THEY HAVE SOME FAIRLY GOOD SCREENING WITH THE EXISTING TREES, BUT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WORKED WITH, UH, WITH DAVID I IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE THEM SOME ADDITIONAL TREES OF THEIR CHOICE TO FILL OUT THAT SCREENING SO THAT IT, IT LOOKS GOOD IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE THEIR SCREENING.

UH, SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THEM.

THEY'RE GOING TO FIGURE IT OUT THE TREES, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET THEM ALL PLANTED AND EVERYTHING.

AND ONCE AGAIN, AS THOSE MATURE OVER TIME, UH, THAT THAT PROVIDES SCREENING BETWEEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THEIR PROPERTY.

AND THEY'RE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL.

UM, ONE OTHER THING REAL QUICK, AND IT'S IN THE STAFF

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REPORT, IT WAS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

UH, AND I WANT TO MOVE BACK HERE VERY QUICKLY.

UM, AS I MENTIONED ORIGINALLY, WE HAD A, A SELECTION OR A MIX OF HOME SIZES THAT WE WERE PROPOSING FOR A NEIGHBOR.

UH, THE PLANNING STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT, UH, 90% OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 2000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

AND THAT 10% HAVE TO BE NO LESS THAN 1,440 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE.

10% IS 24 ROSS OUT OF 2 46.

SO 24 HOMES COULD BE 1,440 SQUARE FEET OR LARGER, BUT ALL THE REST OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO BE, HAD TO BE 2000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S WHAT THE PLAN IS.

OUR COMMISSIONER RECOMMENDED AS WELL.

UH, SINCE FINANCIAL AND COMMISSION ALLIED HAS TALKED TO THEIR BUILDERS, JUST SO YOU KNOW, ALLY DOESN'T HAVE A BUILDER LOCKED IN FOR HIM YET.

THEY TALKING TO A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUILDERS, UH, BUT THEY TALKED TO THEIR BUILDERS, UH, AND ALL OF THEIR BUILDERS HAVE AGREED THAT THE 90%, 2000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM IS ACCEPTABLE TO THEM.

SO OUR, OUR RE OUR REQUEST TO SEE ME IS PER THE PLAN IS ALREADY COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION.

THE 90% OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST 2000 SQUARE FEET WITHIN OUR HOURS FOR 24 HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE A MINIMUM OF 1,440 SQUARE FEET.

AND OUR 1440 IS BASICALLY A ONE STORY HOME THAT IS PRIMARILY GEARED TOWARDS EMPTY-NESTERS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS SOME OF US HAVE GOTTEN TO THAT AGE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED THE BIG HOUSE ANYMORE.

THE KIDS HAD MOVED OUT.

MY THREE KIDS HAVE MOVED OUT.

I'VE GOT A BIG HOUSE, TWO STORIES, LITERALLY THERE IS NOBODY ON THE SECOND STORY OF THAT HOUSE.

MY WIFE AND I LIVE ON THE FIRST FLOOR, OUR MASTERS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

AND SO IF I WAS GOING TO MOVE OUT AND MOVE INTO TO CEDAR HILL AND BE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S 2000 SQUARE FEET OR LARGER ODDS ARE, IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO STORY HOUSE WAS THE 1,440 SQUARE FOOT.

HOME IS A HOME THAT A NUMBER OF THE BUILDERS, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE RANGE IS NUMBER FOR A NUMBER OF BUILDERS HAS REALLY WORKED WELL FOR THE EMPTY NESTERS, BECAUSE IT'S ONE STORY IT'S BIG ENOUGH THAT IT GIVES THEM A LIVING SPACE THAT THEY NEED.

THEY STILL HAVE A TWO CAR ATTACHED GARAGE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE MORE THAN WHAT THEY WANT.

SO THAT WE'RE.

SO WE'RE ASKING FOR, LIKE I SAID, 10%, WHICH IS 24 HOMES TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE.

UM, THAT CONCEPT PLAN HAS 27 BLOCK FACES.

SO IF YOU KIND OF MAYBE FACE A WALL ON THE STREET WHERE THERE'S A BLOCK, THERE'S 27 OF THEM.

SO BALLPARK, THAT WOULD BE ONE HOME PER BLOCK FACE THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBOR.

UH, SO, SO W WE, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A LARGE IMPACT, AN OVERBURDEN ON THE SYSTEM AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, TO, TO, UH, REQUEST THAT, UH, THOSE 24 HOMES.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE WERE DOING THIS EVENING, WHICH IS PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATIONS PER THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION.

UM, THE ONE LAST THING I WANTED TO TOUCH ON IS, UM, BASED ON SOME CONCERNS WE HEARD FROM OUR NEIGHBORS MORE THAN RURAL NEIGHBORS DURING THE PLANNING.

AND SO I COMMISSIONED MEETING IS THE ENCROACHMENT OF SUBURBAN DEVELOPMENT IN THE RURAL AREA.

IT'S BEEN RURAL FOR A LONG TIME.

UH, AND THIS SLIDE BASICALLY SAYS WHAT OUR REQUEST IS, IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CURRENT CITY'S MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2008, WHICH IS FOR LOW DENSITY, RESIDENTIAL HOMES, UH, THE DENSITY INTENSITY LEVEL BEING THREE THAT'S IN THE MASTER PLAN.

WHAT THAT THREE MEANS IS HARMS FROM 2.9 HOMES PER ACRE, TO 6.2 HOMES PER ACRE.

THAT'S THE DENSITY RANGE.

WE'RE PROPOSING 3.6, WHICH IS IN THE BOTTOM 25% OF THAT RANGE.

SO WE'RE WELL WITHIN WHAT THE CURRENT MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDS FOR THE PROPERTY CEDAR HILL NEXT, WHICH AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, HOPEFULLY IS APPROVED HERE IN A MONTH OR SO, UH, IS RECOMMENDING SUBURBAN SINGLE FAMILY FOR THAT PROPERTY.

ONCE AGAIN, SAME TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN, UH, IN THE CEDAR HILL NEXT, THERE WAS A RECENT AMENDMENT THAT, THAT TYPICAL DENSITY WOULD BE THREE HOMES PER ACRE FOR THE, FOR THE SUBURBAN SINGLE FAMILY, IN TERMS OF, UM, DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UH, WE ARE MEETING SEVEN OF THE EIGHT DESIGN GUIDELINES THAT THE CITY STRIVES FOR IN TERMS OF NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT, IN TERMS OF THE PLAN AND ITS IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY.

UH, THE COMMUNITY IS APPROVES THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, BIG PICTURE ITEM COVERS THE ENTIRE CITY.

THAT PLAN IS IMPLEMENTED THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

OBVIOUSLY THE FIRST ONE IS ZONING, WHICH ONCE YOU APPROVE ON ZONING, IF YOU APPROVE DENSITY FOR 3.6 UNITS TO THE ACRE, IT FILES WITHIN THE CURRENT RECOMMENDED PLAN.

AND IT COMPLIES WITH THE MASTER PLAN, UH, THAT DENSITY, THOSE NUMBER OF HARMS IMPACTS THE ROADS IMPACTS THE STREETS IMPACTS THE SEWER IMPACTS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

SO THE

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CITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT USE THAT MASTER PLAN AS A GUIDANCE TO HOW THEY, HOW THEIR NEEDS ARE GOING TO BE, NEED TO BE HANDLED IN THE FUTURE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, IN TERMS OF ROAD IMPACTS, YOU KNOW, MOVE HOMES, CREW TRAFFIC, WHICH CREATE, NEED THE NEED FOR BIGGER ROADS.

UM, THE CITY HAS BOND PROGRAMS WHICH IMPROVE THE ROAD SYSTEMS. UH, THE CITY ALSO HAS COLLECTS THROUGH THE BUILDING COMMUNITY IMPACT FEES FOR EACH HOME.

SO FOR THE ROAD IMPACT FEES FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IF IT'S APPROVED AT 246 HOMES, UH, TH TH THE HOME BUILDERS WILL BE PROVIDING OVER $140,000.

JUST, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME, SIR.

YES, SIR.

WE STILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND YES, SIR.

ON COUCHES PROCLAIMING.

YES.

MA'AM, I'M SORRY.

I'M, I'M CLOSING UP.

ALL RIGHT.

BUT OVER $140,000 IN NEW PANTRIES, UH, WE'RE ALSO, UH, UH, PROVIDING ALMOST $300,000 IN PARK FEES.

THAT'S IN ADDITION TO THE PARKS THAT WE'RE PROVIDING WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD BE OWNED AND MAINTAINED BY THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY BY THE CITY AT ALL.

UH, SO, SO ALL OF THOSE TOOLS IMPLEMENT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH.

UH, THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF OUR REQUESTS LAST TUESDAY ON THE SEVEN STRAPS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF OUR REQUESTS.

AS I SAID, WE ARE THE, THE PRIMARY DIFFERENCE IN OUR REQUEST IS WE ARE ON BOARD WITH THE PNCS RECOMMENDATION OF 90% OF THE HOMES AT 2000 SQUARE FEET.

UH, AND THE REMAINING 24 HOMES AT 1,440 SQUARE FEET, I WILL STOP IT RIGHT THERE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

YES, MA'AM.

AND, UH, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PROCEED ON WITH THE PUBLIC, HEARING THOSE IN FAVOR OF THOSE WISH TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER OF PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

YOU DON'T WANT TO WISH HIM TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

PLEASE COME ON DOWN.

YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES AFTER FIVE MINUTES, YOU WILL BE MUTED.

AND PLEASE GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

PLEASE.

CAN I HAVE MOON COUNCIL? MY NAME IS JOEL MALONE, 1813 SOUTH DAKOTA ROAD, CEDAR HILL, TEXAS.

I AM IN OPPOSITION OF THIS DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE FIRST THERE ARE A LOT OF SLOUGH FLUFF IN THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT, 68 ACRES.

THAT'S MORE LIKE 50 SOMETHING ACRES.

WHEN YOU REALLY GET DOWN TO ALL THE PRE-EXISTING HOMES THAT ARE ON THAT PROPERTY ARE STAYING ON THAT PROPERTY.

ALL THE GREEN SPACE IS NOT ACTUAL GREEN SPACE.

IT'S A LOT OF PONDS THAT WE'RE USING THE WHOLE SURROUNDING INSTILL HOW KIDS GOING TO PLAY ON THE WATER.

THEN IF WE LOOK AND COMPARE THIS TO THE NEXT DEVELOPMENT, NEXT DOOR TO THAT, WHICH IS BEAR CREEK RANCH, THAT'S ABOUT A 220 ACRE PROPERTY.

LET'S JUST SAY IT'S MAYBE 400 HOUSES OVER THERE.

BASICALLY, IF WE TAKE THIS AND BREAK IT DOWN AND THINK ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S 80 HOUSES, TWO 50 ACRES, AND WE GOT 400 OVER HERE, BUT WE WANT TO PUT 246, BASICALLY TWO 50.

CAUSE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED FOR YOU TO SAY THAT YOU TOOK FOUR HOUSES OFF, THAT'S NOTHING YOU SHOULD HAVE KEPT MOTHER.

SO THIS WHOLE PROJECT, AND AS FAR AS CONTACTING THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORS AROUND THERE, I NEVER GOT CONTACTED.

I LIVED DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS WHOLE THING.

SO I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE SOME INPUT ON IT, BUT I DIDN'T GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE ANY INPUT ON THIS.

WE HAVE NOT DONE ANY KIND OF STUDIES, AS FAR AS THE TRAFFIC.

I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT AREA IS EVEN IN THE SITUATION TO BE HANDLING THAT MUCH TRAFFIC, THE ROADS WON'T HANDLE IT.

AND THEN IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, EVERYTHING IS 2000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

THEN THEY WANT TO PUT ANOTHER 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOUSES IN THERE.

WHEN I TALKED TO CENTURY 21 MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THE PRIME SIZE OF A HOUSE FOR A RENTER PROPERTY IS UNDER 2000 SQUARE FEET AND BELOW.

SO WE'RE BASICALLY CREATING A, ANOTHER NEST FOR FUTURE RENTAL PROPERTIES OUT THERE IN THAT AREA WHERE WE DON'T NEED TO CREATE THAT.

I THINK THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR EYE FOCUSED ON THE FACT THAT SHE'D HAVE HER WANTS TO BE A PREMIER CITY.

AND WE DON'T NEED TO LOOK AT THE FACT OF QUALITY IS IN QUANTITY BECAUSE IT'S NOT.

IF YOU LOOK AT QUANTITY OF HOMES, YOU'RE GOING TO ALWAYS LOSE THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSES THAT YOU BRING INTO HERE.

WE ALREADY HAVE HOMES FOR FIRST TIME BUYERS.

WE JUST LOOKED AT A DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY WANT TO DO BEHIND THE, UM, THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD WALMART.

THAT'S THE FIRST TIME HOME OWNER TYPE, UH, PROPERTY THAT THEY CAN BUY.

WE DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THIS AREA BECAUSE IT'S HIDDEN BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST OUT OF CEDAR HILL AND FEEL LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HIDE THIS HUGE, ENORMOUS UNNECESSARY DEVELOPMENT OUT HERE.

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YOU KNOW, THIS IS RURAL, WE'RE RESIDENTIAL, EVEN WHERE RESIDENTIAL, IF WE HAVE THAT SET AT TWO ACRES, 2,500 SQUARE FOOT LIVING.

SO WHILE WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT SAME THING, WHY ARE WE NOT GETTING THE SAME QUALITY THAT WE HAVE OVER ON THE LAKE RIDGE SIDE, OVER HERE ON THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF CEDAR HILL? IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME WE LOOK AROUND THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IS ALWAYS GOING TO GET DUMPED ON.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME, CEDAR HILL, AND THEN THE 200 FOOT PERIMETER THAT WE HAD AROUND THIS PROPERTY.

SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN OPPOSITION FROM MY UNDERSTANDING GOT KICKED OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE PAST THAT 200 FEET.

NOW, IF WE PUT THIS IN THE FOCUS NEWSPAPER, THAT MEANT EVERYBODY HAS A CHANCE TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, BUT FOR SOME OF THESE THAT SEEM LIKE, AND I COULD BE CORRECTED IF I'M WRONG, BUT SOME OF OUR OPPOSITION PEOPLE WERE TAKEN OUT BECAUSE THEY LIVE PAST THE 200 FEET.

THANK YOU, MR. MILES, SHORT ANSWER.

UH, YOU WAS ON A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANYONE ELSE, QUESTION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK AND SEE SOMEONE COMING DOWN? HELLO? CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD PLEASE? I'M DONNA MCSHANE, 1837 SOUTH DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

UM, WE ARE MY HUSBAND AND I ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS CEDAR HILL.

SORRY.

UM, WE'RE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT ON 14 PLUS ACRES.

THEY DID TALK TO, I GUESS, THE PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVED IN A SUBDIVISION AND GOT THEM TO BACK DOWN.

THEY DIDN'T.

I GOT TALKED TO, I GOT THEM FROM CALL A COUPLE OF DAYS BEFORE THE LAST MEETING, THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING.

I DON'T THINK THEY REALLY DID MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET.

UM, AND WHERE ARE THE RURAL PEOPLE? WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE EIGHT GRADE? THE PEOPLE IN BEAR CREEK IS A RANCH.

THEY ALREADY LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION.

SO ANOTHER SUBDIVISION, I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT BIG OF A DEAL TO THEM.

IT IS TO US.

AND WHEN WE MOVED THERE FIVE YEARS AGO, IT WAS ZONED RURAL WHERE YOU THOUGHT IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE ANY DEVELOPMENT, IT WOULD BE THE TWO ACRE HOME SITES.

YOU KNOW, PROBABLY A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.

NOW THEY'RE BRINGING IN THESE 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

THOSE ARE GOING TO BE SELLING PROBABLY TO INVESTORS FOR RENTAL, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING THAT GERALD MALONE JUST SAID.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH.

UM, IT RUINS THE FEEL OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF CEDAR HILL.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU GUYS EVER DOWN THAT ROAD, BUT IT'S A REALLY COOL LITTLE AREA DOWN THERE WITH THE RURAL PROPERTIES.

AND NOW IT'S JUST GOING TO BE SUBDIVISION AFTER SUBDIVISION, AFTER SUBDIVISION, AND YOU CAN CALL THEM A NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S A SUBDIVISION THE SAME AS BEAR CREEK RANCH.

UM, I DON'T REALLY THINK THEY DID.

I DON'T THINK THEY COULD DO MUCH FOR US.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL ON H EVERYBODY ON THAT WESTERN SIDE HAS A BRIDGE AND WE MOVED THERE TO HAVE A CRIBBAGE AND WE HAVE HORSES AND BUNCH OF OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE HORSES.

WE HAVE THIS LIFESTYLE THAT LOOKED LIKE WE WERE GOING TO HAVE WHEN WE MOVED THERE.

WHEN WE INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY, THINKING THAT IT WAS RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND NOW, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING FROM THE PHONE CALL I GOT FROM THE DEVELOPER, IT WAS DECIDED BEFORE THAT LAST MEETING.

CAUSE HE SAID HE WAS JUST TRYING TO SOFTEN THE BLOKE.

HE ALREADY KNEW HOW THAT VOTE WAS GOING, WHICH REALLY DID NOT SET WELL WITH ME.

UM, RIGHT.

UM, I'M VERY UNHAPPY ABOUT IT.

I THINK YOU'RE DOING A BIG DISSERVICE TO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF CEDAR HILL AND THAT WHOLE VIBE.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE ONE BIG SUBDIVISION PROCEDURE HILL.

YOU'RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR RURAL PROPERTY OWNERS.

AT THIS POINT, WE WERE PLANNING A REMODEL THAT'S IN THE TRASH BECAUSE NOTHING WE DO WILL NOW ADD VALUE TO OUR HOME.

OUR HOME VOLUME IS GOING TO GO DOWN.

IF WE PUT ANY IMPROVEMENT IN, WHEN I TALKED TO THE DEVELOPER ON THE PHONE, HE SAID, WELL, SOMEDAY THE DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO WANT YOUR PROPERTY.

WELL, MAYBE, BUT SO IF I DO A REMODEL OR I DO ANY IMPROVEMENT, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE ME EXTRA MONEY FOR THAT.

THAT'S JUST A WASTE OF OUR TIME.

SO NOW WE HAVE THIS BIG PROPERTY THAT WE LOVE AND WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE LOVE CEDAR HILL, BUT NOW WE FEEL KIND OF TRAPPED.

SO

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ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU.

IN OUR MOTION TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

YES, MA'AM.

HELLO.

MY NAME IS SHANNON MILES.

I STAY AT 1554 REGAL BLUFF DRIVE.

I'M IN THE BEAR CREEK SUBDIVISION AND I'M OPPOSED TO IT.

WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S IN EVITABLE, THAT SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE BUILT BACK.

THERE IS LAND TO BE DEVELOPED.

SO I GUESS NONE OF US CAN CONTROL THAT, BUT JUST LIKE MY OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE RURAL AREA, I'M CONCERNED AS FAR AS RENTERS AND INVESTMENT PROPERTIES COMING IN ON THOSE LOWER SQUARE FOOT HOMES AND BEAR CREEK RANCH RIGHT NOW, THOSE HOMES ARE, ARE GOING OVER 500,000.

SO I'M LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

HOW DOES THAT AFFECT MY PROPERTY VALUE? HOW DOES THAT AFFECT MY NEIGHBORHOOD? ME AND MY HUSBAND.

WE CAME OUT OF LANCASTER AND WE HAD A HORSE RANCH RIGHT BEHIND US.

SO WHEN WE FOUND THIS, UH, THAT DEVELOPMENT AND CEDAR HILL, IT WAS THE SAME THING.

WE ENJOY THE, THE RURAL AREA AND BEING ABLE TO SEE THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF DUNCANVILLE WITH THE HORSES.

AND IT'S QUIET BACK THERE.

IT'S NOT A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

WE ENJOY THAT.

WE FEEL LIKE MORE HOMES.

IT'S JUST GONNA BRING THAT DOWN.

AND LIKE SHE SAID, IT IS GOING TO BE A, LIKE A BIG SUBDIVISION, EVEN THOUGH IT IS ONE RIGHT THERE, IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT FEEL MORE SO NOT LIKE THEIR COUNTRY FEEL OR WE'RE TOOK THE WAY NOW IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE, OH, NOW WE'RE IN THE DAILY, UH, HOUSE HUSTLE AND BUSTLE WITH EVERYONE ELSE.

SO I JUST WANT THOSE KINDS OF QUESTIONS TO BE ANSWERED.

LIKE FUTURE DOWN THE LINE.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE INVESTORS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE RENTERS.

WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THINGS THAT ARE GONNA BRING OUR PROPERTY VALUE DOWN.

A LOT OF US IN BEAR CREEK RANCH, ALONG THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT AMID LIKE WHERE A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HAD THE PROBLEMS, BUT WE'RE ON THE EDGE.

SO IT'S LIKE WE PAY A LOT PREMIUMS, UH, OVER 40,000 STARTING LOT PREMIUMS JUST TO GET ON THAT PIECE OF LAND, WHERE WE WERE THINKING NOTHING WAS GOING TO BE BEHIND US.

SO WE JUST WANT TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN, IF SOMETHING IS GONNA BE BEHIND US, THEN IT'S COMPARABLE TO EVERYBODY ELSE THAT IS LARGER HOMES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE HOME.

SO WE CAN KEEP THAT COUNTRY'S SOUTHERN KIND OF ROYAL FEEL BACK THERE.

AND IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE IN THE CITY WITH EVERYONE ELSE IN THE TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT.

WE JUST WANTED TO STAY ON A NICE, QUIET AND PEACEFUL, BUT THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

YES.

YES.

IT'S 1554 REGAL BLUFF DRIVE.

YES, SIR.

EVENING.

I WON'T SPEAK LOUD CAUSE I'M DONNA'S HUSBAND AND, UH, BRUCE MIX-IN 1837 SOUTH DUNCANVILLE CEDAR HILL.

BUT WHEN WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION AT THE PNC, HE MENTIONED THAT THEY HAD STUDIED THE TRAFFIC IMPACT.

I BELIEVE IT WAS IN 19 BEAR CREEK WAS OPENED IN 20 OR LATE 19.

WE DROVE THROUGH BEAR CREEK ROAD BAY.

IT'S PROBABLY A THIRD FIELD, HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

SO THE IMPACT OF THE TRAFFIC ALONE ON DUNCANVILLE AND STRANDING ROADS IS GOING TO BE HORRENDOUS.

I FEEL, AND TO REITERATE, WE BOUGHT IN CEDAR HILL, WE LOOKED ALL OVER COLLIN COUNTY ALL THE WAY AROUND.

WE FOUND CEDAR HILL FOR THE RURAL AREA.

NOW, IS IT GOING TO BE JUST LIKE DALLAS? THAT'S NOT WHAT WE WANT.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT ANYONE IN THIS ROOM WANTS.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

NOW LAST SEMESTER TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

YES.

MA'AM.

I LIVE AT 1817 SOUTH DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

MY NAME IS LAURA HERNANDEZ.

I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS WHERE THEY'RE PLANNING TO BUILD ADDISON HILLS AND I'M REALLY OPPOSED JUST LIKE MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID, UM, I DID COME WITH MY, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS AGO AGAIN TO THE SAME, LIKE DONNA.

UM, WE MOVED TO FROM MOVING FROM THE CITY TO THE COUNTRY AND WE LOVED IT, BUT NOW IT'S LIKE, I IT'S, IT'S LIKE, I'M GOING TO SEE A WALL ACROSS THE STREET NOW, RIGHT NOW THERE'S LIKE, YOU COULD SEE FOREST TREES.

IT LOOKS PRETTY.

IT'S NICE, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

AND I, I JUST DON'T LIKE IT IT'S BASICALLY EVERYTHING THAT, UM, ALL MY NEIGHBORS SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK PRETTY ANYMORE.

PEACEFUL TRAFFIC.

I MEAN, WE DON'T KNOW

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WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE IS GOING TO MOVE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO I, I DON'T LIKE, I'M NOT GOING FOR THE PLAN.

THANK YOU.

YEAH.

WHAT ASK THE PERSON TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO PD 3 8, 7 20, 21 EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UH, MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN AND EDUCATE.

I LIVE ON 1731 SIDE, THE COUNTRY ROAD, A CROSS FROM WHERE THAT DID THEIR BOOKLETS ABOUT TO CALL I'M A PHARMACIST.

AND, UM, I'M GONNA APPROACH THIS FROM A HEALTH STANDPOINT.

UH, USUALLY EVEN ON THE WORST, NO, THIS PAST YEAR, WHEN THE PANDEMIC HAPPENED, THE NEED FOR PEOPLE GETTING THEIR SALARY BRIGHTNESS, THE SPACE WAS VERY 11.

UH, IT WOULD STAY AT HOME.

IF THEY HAVE THIS SPACE, IT WOULD MAKE IT A LOT EASIER FOR THEM TO TRANSITION THROUGH WHATEVER WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH, UH, TO, TO PUT THAT DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE, TAKING IT AWAY FROM THE TWO ECOLODGE, IT WAS REALLY PROPOSED.

UH, I THINK HIM IS GOING TO MAKE THE TRANQUILITY.

WE HAVE IN THAT LITTLE SPOT POCKET OF THE CITY, YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE IT AWAY.

I'VE BEEN OVER THERE FOR APPROXIMATELY SEVEN YEARS.

UH, THE NEW DEVELOPMENT WAS DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ME AND I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, THEM DRIVING UP.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY IS COMING TO MY PLACE, THE LIGHTS SHINE DIRECTLY INTO MY LIVING ROOM.

AND THEN THE THING ABOUT IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO KEEP IT THE WAY RACE.

PEOPLE MOVED AWAY FROM BIG CITIES TO GO TO RURAL AREAS AND THAT'S PERSONAL OF THE CITY.

THEY CAN, IT CAN STILL BE FILLED OUT WITH PEOPLE LOOKING FOR TWO X, LOTS, A BET.

YOU, PEOPLE THAT LIVE ACROSS FROM ME.

IF THEY HAD GIVEN THE OPTION OF GETTING TO A CULOTTES, THEY WOULD HAVE OPTED FOR THAT.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HAVE SPOKEN TO TWO FRIENDS OVER THERE AND THEY SAID, IF THEY NEED SUCH A THING WAS AVAILABLE, THEY PROBABLY WOULD HAVE IT.

PEOPLE MOVED INTO TEXAS MOVING FROM LIKE PLACES LIKE CALIFORNIA.

THEY DON'T COME HERE TO INVEST IN PROPERTIES.

THEY COME HERE TO LIVE LOOKING FOR THAT QUIETNESS.

I HAPPENED TO HAVE FRIENDS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S TEXAS, PEOPLE ARE BUYING FIVE ACRE, LOTS BUILDING HOUSES MOVING FROM OUT OF STATE.

THIS ONE SPOT WE HAVE HERE.

IF WE CAN PRESERVE IT, I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD FOR OUR OVERALL HEALTH PEOPLE LIVING IN THAT AREA, IF A MENTAL HEALTH AND, AND IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO CONSIDER, PLEASE, FOOTNOTE TO THIS, KEEP OUR TOWN QUALITY, KEEP UP WHITENESS.

PEOPLE CAN LISTEN TO, YOU KNOW, LIKE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, LISTEN TO BIRDS, LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, THE WOODS.

EVEN.

I ALWAYS, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T LIKE THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN HEAR THEM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AT NIGHT.

SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

UH, ANYONE ELSE MISSING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21? YES.

MA'AM GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS MARCELLA ALLEN AND I LIVE AT 1653 SOUTH DUNCANVILLE ROAD.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN, HAVE LIVED IN, UM, CEDAR HILL FOR YEARS, BUT, UM, MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO CEDAR HILL ALMOST 22 YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS BARELY HOME DEPOT, I THINK ALBERTSONS WAS JUST GETTING STARTED KMART.

RIGHT? THAT WAS BASICALLY IT.

AND WE MOVED TO CEDAR HILL BECAUSE WE WANTED TO HAVE THE COUNTRY FILMING.

WE WANTED TO RAISE OUR FAMILY IN, NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THE REGULAR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WE HAVE NOW.

UM, AS SOON AS WE FIND OUT ABOUT THIS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, I WAS JUST APPALLED.

I COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THE CITY WAS GOING MORE AND MORE AND MORE.

UM, I ALWAYS LOVE WHERE WE LIVE AND I STILL DO.

I HAVE, MY HUSBAND HAS MENTIONED SEVERAL TIMES.

WHY DON'T

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WE JUST GO SOMEWHERE ELSE? UM, OUR OLDEST DAUGHTER JUST GOT MARRIED.

OUR SON IS ABOUT TO GRADUATE FROM HIGH SCHOOL SO WE CAN JUST TRAVEL.

AND I HAVE ALWAYS TOLD HIM, NO, I LIKE IT.

I LIKE IT WHERE WE ARE.

WE HAVE HORSES, WE HAVE CHICKENS, WE HAVE THE COUNTRY FEELING.

WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORS AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO JUST GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

I WANT MY PLACE.

AND THAT'S HOW I WOULD LIKE TO KEEP OUR AREA JUST SMALL, WHERE WE CAN HAVE OUR OWN IDENTITY AS SMALL PLACES WHERE WE LIVE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, AND ESPECIALLY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION, 2, 3 8, 7, 12 21 AND EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR COUNCIL, MEMBER, STAFF.

MY NAME IS SAMUEL ELLA.

ONE OF THE 1653 SOUTH DAKOTA MILL ROAD.

THERE'S ANOTHER HALF THAT JUST LEFT.

WE MOVED TO DELEGATE TO DR.

YOU'RE, RIGHT.

WE MOVED TO CEDAR HILL BECAUSE OF THE AREA WE LIVE IN.

WE ONLY IN THE RURAL SIDE OF THE ROAD AND IT WAS A NICE PLACE TO MOVE.

WE KNEW THAT LUKE NINE WOULD BE COMING THROUGH.

WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT BEAR CREEK RANCH ON THE OTHER SIDE.

IN FACT, WE USED TO RIDE OUR HORSES AND BUGGIES OVER THERE.

NOW, WAREHOUSES, STAN, I KIND OF MESSED ME UP, BUT WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO GROW THERE.

I ALSO KNEW THAT LUKE NINE WAS COMING THROUGH AND THAT'S THE PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR AT LEAST 60 YEARS.

SO I FIGURED BY THE TIME I DIED, THEY'LL HAVE IT THROUGH THERE.

SO THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT WE'D LIKE THAT RURAL AREA, THE KIDS COULD GO OUT AND PLAY AKI GARAGE, GRABBED MY HORSES.

I CAN INVITE NEIGHBORS OVER.

I EVEN BOUGHT ME A BRAND NEW BICYCLE SO I COULD RIDE UP AND DOWN THE ROAD THERE AND NOT BE BOTHERED WITH SPEEDING CARS.

THAT WAS THEN THIS IS NOW BUILT TO THAT.

AND IT'S OUR LISTEN TO THE PRESENTATION HERE.

NOBODY TALKED ABOUT THE SAFETY OF IT AND THE AMOUNT OF CARS THAT DRIVE THROUGH THERE AND THE RATE OF SPEED.

THEY DRIVE.

THERE WERE ON THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT.

AND THE 20 YEARS I LIVED THERE, WE NEVER SAW A POLICE CAR AND THERE WAS A WOMAN AND YOU NEED FOR ONE, BUT NOW EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT.

I BUILT A FENCE AND I TELL PEOPLE I LIVE IN A GATED AREA.

I DON'T, I PUT A GATE UP SO I CAN KEEP MY HORSES IN.

AND WE HAVE HORSES.

WE HAVE CHICKENS.

WE HAD COWS, NO PROBLEMS AT ALL.

EVEN THE COYOTES STAYED AWAY FROM NOW.

I'VE GOT NEIGHBORS, DOG COMING OVER MY YARD, KILLING MY CHICKENS.

NOW THAT MADE ME UPSET BECAUSE I RUINED MY A'S.

BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS FOR WHAT WE HAVE, THERE IS A NICE LITTLE AREA OVER THERE, LITTLE COUNTRY AREA OVER THERE, A LITTLE ROLL AREA OVER THERE.

WE CAN'T REGULATE THE ROUND OF CARS THAT COME THROUGH THERE, BUT WE CAN REGULATE OUR PARK.

THE SAFETY ISSUE WOULD BE IS THERE CARS, THERE'S TRAFFIC.

AND WE GOT KIDS DRIVING THEIR KIDS.

AT LEAST THE KIDS THAT I'VE SEEN SO FAR, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR THE LAW.

DOESN'T HAVE RESPECT FOR THE SPEEDS ZONE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY RESPECT FOR OTHER PEOPLE.

QUIETENS IS VERY TRANQUIL OVER THERE.

AND THAT'S WHY I MOVED HERE.

THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MY RETIREMENT PLACE.

WELL, I DID RETIRE, BUT THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE WHO I WAS.

I SPENT THE REST OF MY LIFE IS IN THIS PLACE HERE.

I DON'T WANT TO MOVE.

I LOVE CEDAR HILL HILL.

WHEN WE GOT HERE, WHEN TRAFFIC LIGHT ON BELTLINE AND DUNCANVILLE ROAD, WE HAD VERY LITTLE DOWNTOWN, BUT EVERYTHING WE NEED, WE EITHER WALK TO IT, RIGHT? THE BICYCLE TO IT AND GET, BE BACK HOME WITHIN MINUTES.

CAN'T DO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE TRAFFIC JAMS IN CEDAR HILL.

SO IF YOU WERE A COUNCIL MEMBER, PLEASE DON'T LET THE SUBDIVISION COME TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT'S NOT SAFE.

IT INCREASE THE CALLS.

UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER MADE SOME ADJUSTMENT ON THE SIZE OF THE HOUSES THERE.

THEY MADE SOME ADJUSTMENT ON THE WORLD ISSUE.

WE LISTENED TO THE FIRST TAB, THEY'LL HAVE ONE INTERWAY COMING INTO THAT PROBLEM.

AT THAT PROPERTY.

WE HAD NO IDEA HOW WIDE THE STREETS IS GOING TO BE.

AND FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM WORKING IN FIRE SERVICE, THAT HAS TO BE A ROADWAY FOR THE LARGEST PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

COME THROUGH THERE.

THEY DIDN'T BRING IT UP.

NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS OVER THERE WHEN THEY BROUGHT THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW NOBODY SAID ANYTHING ABOUT, WELL, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME INSECTS AND BIRDS ARE GOING EXTINCT, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE LIVE WITH.

BUT FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, NOBODY HAS DONE THAT YET MADE ANY KIND OF STUDIES ON AT ALL.

AND I HAVEN'T SEEN THE LITTLE BLACK TUBES ON DR.

DILL ROAD WHERE YOU DO A TRAFFIC COUNT IN EVERY DAY OR EVERY WEEK.

WE'LL HAVE AN ACCIDENT AT THE INTERSECTION OF DUNCANVILLE AND BEAR CREEK.

I DON'T THINK WE HAD ANY DEATHS THERE YET, BUT IT'S BOUND TO HAPPEN, ESPECIALLY WITH SPEEDING CARS.

SO I ASKED YOU COUNCIL MEMBER, PLEASE, PLEASE.

I'M GETTING TISSUES, CLEAN MY GLASSES, BUT PLEASE

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DON'T PASS IT.

THANK YOU.

CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21.

ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO CASE NUMBER PD 3 8, 7 20 21 CITY ONE APPROACH, UH, CLOSE THAT PERSON AT A PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, WENT UP TO COUNCIL.

ANY DELIBERATION COUNSEL, ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, WANT TO COME UP? SORRY.

CUSTOMER BUILDER.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

UM, I'VE LOOKED AT YOUR WATCH YOUR PRESENTATION AND WE HAVE OUR COUNCIL DOCUMENT THAT DOCUMENT.

UM, I HAVE A FEW CONCERNS, UM, THAT THE SQUARE FOR THE JOLT I'LL JUST MAKE MY STATEMENTS.

UH, I BELIEVE EVERY, IF THIS GOES THROUGH EVERY LOT NEEDS TO BE EVERY COUNSELOR, THE MINIMUM IS 2000.

UM, WHEN THE BIRD CREEK RESIDENTS SIGNED UP AND PURCHASE THEIR HOMES, THEY PURCHASED WHAT THAT EXPECTATION.

AND I DISAGREE.

I AM CLOSEST TO RETIREMENT THAN I AM TO.

AND THE OTHER AGE, I'M NOT GOING TO A 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

UM, ALSO YOU CREATED EIGHT FOOT FENCES FOR PART OF BEAR CREEK, BUT NOT THE OTHER PART.

IF I'M LOOKING AT THE DESIGN AND YOU W THE, THERE ARE LOTS THAT ARE WIDENED TO MATCH THE BEAR CREEK ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT THEN ON THE EAST SIDE, THOSE LOT WATTS ARE NARROW AND THERE IS ONE LOT THAT IS 47 ON THE BEAR CREEK SIDE THAT HAS THREE HOMES BACKED UP TO THAT, THAT, THAT TYPE OF DENSITY, UM, DOESN'T CREATE VALUE.

AND THEN ALSO I WOULD, THERE WOULD NEED TO BE SOME TYPE OF ADJUSTMENT FOR THAT.

UM, WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO SELL WHAT THEY WERE PROMISED, THESE SHOULD MATCH UP AND TO SOME, AT LEAST ON THE PERIMETER, TO SOME EXTENT, UM, THAT'S A LOT, THAT'S THREE INDIVIDUALS THAT YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH, AND THAT FENCE IS SIX FEET.

WELL, THE OTHER SIDE THAT THIS MATCHED UP IS AP.

UM, AND, AND I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

THOSE, THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS.

MY CONCERNS IS THE, UM, THE DENSITY, THE LOT SIZE, THE DENSITY, THE LOT SIZES, THERE IS A LOT THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE RETENTION POND.

AND I UNDERSTAND MEETS THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT AT THE SAME, IT, I INSISTED ON LOOKING AT AN ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, BUT IT STILL APPEARS TO BE VERY NARROW.

AND TO ME, THE QUALITY OF THE LOT IS BASED OFF OF THE SHAPE AND DESIGNATION, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE PLOT.

I CAN HAVE A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT MOT, BUT IF IT IS 10 FEET WIDE, THAT'S A VERY NARROW LOT THAT I CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH.

SO THOSE ARE MY CONCERNS REGARDING THIS.

IT'S THE LOT SIZES, THE ONES THAT DON'T MATCH UP TO THE EXISTING BEAR CREEK RESIDENTS ON THE EAST SIDE, AND THEN DEFINITELY A 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO THAT I WOULD THINK WE WILL LOOK TO PLACE IN THIS SECTION OF OUR, OF OUR, OF OUR CITY.

UM, I'M NOT EVEN REALLY SURE THAT ANYONE REALLY WANTS A 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOME SURROUNDED BY TWO, 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

YES, I UNDERSTAND THE CAUSES CONCERNS CAUSE I'M RECORDING.

UM, I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

UM, I, I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE 1400 SQUARE FOOT HOMES, I THINK IN INVITES, UH, YOUR RENTAL PROPERTY AND, YOU KNOW, IN INVITES, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR KIND OF YOUR INSTITUTIONAL INVESTORS TO, TO COME IN AND BUY SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES, UH, THE UI I'D LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE SAME THINGS.

AND THIS IS WHERE WE, WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE HUFFINES GROUP WITH SOMETHING IN THE HOA DOCS.

IT PREVENTS SOMEBODY FROM, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT BUYS IS GOING TO BE AN OWNER OCCUPANT FOR AT LEAST THE FIRST YEAR.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR USE OF GREEN SPACE HERE.

IT, IT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF IN THE ENDS AND THEN SOMETHING THROWN IN THE MIDDLE.

SO YOU'VE GOT SOME GREEN SPACE IN THE MIDDLE.

UM, MOST OF THE GREEN SPACE LOOKS LIKE IT'S DETENTION PONDS.

UH, I I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THE GREEN SPACE KIND OF SCATTERED THROUGHOUT THE, THE DEVELOPMENT, MAYBE LESS DENSITY IN HERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S, IT'S JUST IT'S TOO MUCH ON, UH, UH, FOR, FOR THAT, FOR THAT

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PROPERTY AND, AND, AND MY PERSPECTIVE PERCEPTION PERSPECTIVE.

OKAY.

LET'S REMEMBER HAYDEN, THANK YOU, MAN.

YOU KNOW, I SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO THE OPPOSITION AND THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT CEDAR HILL YOU STILL LOOK LIKE.

SO I, I, I HAVE THEIR FEELINGS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE, SINCE, UH, 81, WE HAD, UH, TWO POLICE CARS AND ONE GROCERY STORE, YOU KNOW, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH.

I DIDN'T MOVE HERE WITH THE EXPECTATIONS THAT NOTHING WAS GONNA HAPPEN.

UH, SO I GUESS IN, IN RESPONSE TO THAT, I GUESS WHEN YOU HAVE A CITY THAT IS NICE AND, UH, AND PREMIERS, WE TRY TO BE OBVIOUSLY GROSS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK BEING ON THIS COUNCIL AND WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS DONE IN THE PAST AS WE'VE GROWN RESPONSIBLY, UH, IS IT WAS RESPONSIBLE.

AND AS WE COULD, YEAH.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN'T MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY, BUT I GOT TO SAY, LOOKING AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I CAN REMEMBER WHEN BEAR CREEK WAS IN AND NOBODY WANTED BEAR CREEK AND, AND, UH, AND IN STONE HERE, WHEN WE WERE WORKING ON THAT, WE WERE ALWAYS HARPING ON, YOU KNOW, 7,000 PLUS ACRE LODGE, 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS, UM, YOU KNOW, MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR HALF SIZE, 2,500 PLUS.

AND THEN I SEE IN THIS AREA NOW THAT, UH, WE HAVE THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S KIND OF COME IN AND, AND I, I PERSONALLY, DON'T LIKE SEEING OUR RURAL AREAS DISAPPEAR.

UM, AND, UH, SO MY FEELINGS ARE WITH OBVIOUSLY THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THERE, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A DEVELOPER HAS, UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP, DEVELOP ON THEIR PROPERTY.

BUT IF THIS WAS ALREADY RE YOU KNOW, RE YOU KNOW, UH, ARE, ARE TO BEGIN WITH, YOU KNOW, WHY COULDN'T WE COME IN AND DEVELOP SOMETHING BASED ON RR INSTEAD OF COMING IN AND TRYING TO PUT IN A LOT SMALLER STUFF.

BUT WITH THAT SAID, I REALIZED GROUPS, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, GROWTH IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

I DON'T REALLY LIKE THE 1,440 SQUARE FEET.

UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME, WHEN WE SAY MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 2000, UH, WHAT ARE YOU, WHAT IS YOUR EXPECTATION ON THE LARGER SIZE? THAT IS 100% MARKET DRIVEN.

AS AN EXAMPLE, BEAR CREEK HAS BASICALLY THE SERVICE OF THE SAME MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT AND THEIR ZONING.

UH, THEY HAVE 3,600 AROUND A MIDDLE LAKE, WHICH IS THE STREET IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTHWEST.

THEY HAVE 4,000 SQUARE FOOT HOMES.

THEY'RE NOT MANDATED TO DO THAT.

THAT IS WHAT THE MARKET HAS DICTATED THAT GETS BUILT ON THOSE LOTS.

SO WHILE AS, AS I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE ESTABLISH A MINIMUM.

THE CITY ESTABLISHES MINIMUMS IN THEIR ZONING DISTRICTS.

EVERY ONE OF YOUR ZONING DISTRICTS HAS A MINIMUM MINIMUM HOUSE SIZE, SQUARE FOOTAGE.

THAT'S NOT SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSES ARE GOING TO BE BUILT AT.

THAT IS YOU CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING SMALLER THAN THAT.

UH, AS HISTORICALLY IN THE DALLAS MARKET, AS WE HAVE GONE, I'VE BEEN IN THIS BUSINESS A LONG TIME AS WE HAVE GONE FROM THE 1980S THROUGH NOW, UH, THE LOTS HAVE GONE FROM BIGGER LOTS, AND I CAN SHOW YOU LOTS OF SUBDIVISIONS THAT HAVE 10, 12, 15,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS WITH A 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE ON IT, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS BUILT BACK IN THE EIGHTIES.

AND THIS EVOLVE THAT AS HOUSES HAVE GOTTEN MORE EXPENSIVE, PEOPLE HAVE FOCUSED MORE ON WHAT THEY'RE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO PAY.

THEY'RE FOCUSED MORE ON THE HOUSE VERSUS THE LOT, AND THE NATURE OF THE SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITIES IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH MARKET.

OUR VELOCE HAS GOTTEN SMARTER.

AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE HOUSES HAVE GOTTEN LARGER.

WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE NOW MATURING AS A MARKET, AND WE'RE GETTING SOME OF THOSE EMPTY-NESTERS THAT THEY CAN'T FIND A PLACE TO LIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEY'VE.

THEY LIKE ME.

I LIVE IN A 3,600 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE THAT I RAISED A FAMILY, AND I NEEDED THE SQUARE FOOTAGE.

AT THE TIME.

IF I RUN OUT, YOU BUY A 1400, 1500, 1600 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE.

I COULDN'T DO IT IN MOST COMMUNITIES BECAUSE OF THE MINIMUM HOUSE SIZES YOU HAVE TO, I HAVE TO GO 30 MILES OUT BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PLACE I CAN BUILD A HOUSE, UH, WITH REGARDS TO THE INTENSITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR A COUPLE OF CONCERNS FROM THE COUNCILMEN, THE MASTER PLAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS LOW DENSE, SINGLE FAMILY.

RESIDENTIAL.

THAT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS SINCE 2008.

AS I MENTIONED THAT WHILE THE PLAN IS USED FOR THE CITY, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, OTHER ENTITIES, IT'S ALSO USED FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO HAVE AN OF WHAT THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.

IF THE S IF THE PROPERTY WAS NOT, IS NOT PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AS RURAL RESIDENTIAL IS PROPOSED TO BE DEVELOPED AS SUBURBAN TYPE NEIGHBORHOODS EXISTING, AND AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE, AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, WHEN YOU'RE AT THE BOTTOM 25%, IN TERMS OF THE DENSITY RANGE, THAT'S ALLOWED TODAY WITHOUT ON THIS PROPERTY

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PER THE MASTER PLAN.

SO WE FEEL WE ARE WELL WITHIN WHAT THE CITY'S EXPECTATIONS ARE FOR THE PROPERTY DOWN AT THE BOTTOM END, IN TERMS OF A DENSITY STANDPOINT, UH, IN TERMS OF THE LOT SIZE, THERE IS, THERE IS NOT ANY EQUIVALENCY BETWEEN LOT SIZE AND QUALITY OF HOME OR PRICE OF HOME.

THE PRICE OF HOMES IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD ARE EXPECTED TO BE ANYWHERE FROM $175 TO $198 A SQUARE FOOT.

THAT'S WHAT THE BUILDERS HAVE TOLD US.

SO BALLPARK, WHERE THEY, 2000 SQUARE FOOT HOME, THAT'S $350,000 TO $400,000 MINIMUM.

AS I SAID, I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS.

I BELIEVE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE HOMES ARE GOING TO BE LARGER THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT IS NOT AN INEXPENSIVE HOME.

THAT IS NOT A STARTER HOME.

THAT IS NOT A RENTAL HOME.

THAT IS AN EQUIVALENT HOME TO WHAT BEAR CREEK IS.

BEAR CREEK'S HOMES ARE MORE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGER, BUT ON A PER SQUARE FOOT BASIS, THE HOMES IN BEAR CREEK ON THE SOUTH SIDE PHASE TWO, WHICH IS BEING BUILT RIGHT NOW, THE AVERAGE PRICE OF A HOME ALONG THAT THAT AREA IS $141 A SQUARE FOOT.

WE GET THAT INFORMATION FROM ZERO FROM REALTOR.COM AND FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, BALLPARK THAT NUMBER 141 BUCKS A SQUARE FOOT IS BALLPARK A 23% PREMIUM OVER WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT SAYS.

THOSE HOMES ARE WORTH.

THAT'S BASICALLY ZILLOW AND REALTOR.COM ARE SAYING, THAT'S THE VALUE OF THOSE HOMES.

AND WE THINK THAT'S A BETTER MARKET TREND THAN WHAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT SAYS.

THAT'S A HUNDRED AND AVERAGING 141 BUCKS A SQUARE FOOT.

OUR HOMES ARE GOING TO START AT 175 BUCKS A SQUARE FOOT, AND THEY GET, THEY, THEY ANTICIPATE YOU'RE GOING UP TO RIGHT AROUND 200 BUCKS A SQUARE FOOT.

WE WILL NOT DECREASE THE PROPERTY VALUES OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

WE WILL RAISE THEIR VALUES WHEN THEY TRY TO SELL THEIR HOMES.

WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING IN.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE 2000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

THAT IS THE MINIMUM.

OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, YOUR PLANS ARE FOR LARGER HOUSES IN THERE.

SO BY THE SAME TOKEN, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT 414 SQUARE FEET, THAT'S MINIMUM, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT 10% OF THE PRODUCT OR THE PROJECT WITH 24, 24 LEVEL WERE LOTS.

YES.

YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN IS, IS THAT THE TWO THINGS, AND I THINK, UH, COUNCILMAN MCCURDY POINTED IT OUT.

WHEN I LOOK AT THE GREEN SPACE IN THIS, AND WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OUR MASTER PLAN, UH, OR COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE IDEA WITH SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING OUT IS TO KIND OF A TWO SPACE GREEN SPACE INSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, A RUDER LOOKING PRETTY NICE TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THE GREEN SPACE, UH, THAT YOU EXPECT TO PUT IN HERE.

AND NOT ALL ONE SLAB LIKE THIS WITH GREEN SPACE ON THE OUT.

SO I HAVE ISSUE WITH THAT.

AND I THINK BASED ON THIS 10%, IF IT'S ONLY 10%, THAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT 1440, I WOULD THINK FROM THE PROJECT STANDPOINT, UH, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK EVERYTHING SHOULD BE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF 2000 SQUARE FEET.

THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I FEEL.

YES, SIR.

WITH REGARDS TO, IF I MAY, WITH REGARDS TO THE DESIGN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE DESIGN OF THE OPEN SPACE, UH, AS I'VE INDICATED ON OUR SIDE, UP IN THE UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, WE MEET SEVEN OF THE EIGHT DESIGN REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY ASKED THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO DO WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THE ONLY ONE WE DON'T MEET HAS TO DO WITH HAVING GARAGE DOORS, SETBACK, 15 FOOT MINIMUM FROM THE FACE OF THE HOUSE, OR HAVING A DETACHED, SCRATCH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT THE CITY OUTLINES IN ITS MASTER PLANS, IN TERMS OF HOW OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE DESIGNED.

WE COMPLY WITH THOSE.

WE, WE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT WE DO.

THAT IS HOW WE DESIGN NEIGHBORHOODS.

OUR DEFAULT IS WHAT THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL EXPECTS.

WHEN SOMEBODY DEVELOPS A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS PLAN PROVIDES.

THOSE OPEN SPACES.

WE WANT TO SPREAD THEM OUT THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WE GIVE PEOPLE A REASON TO WALK IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS PULL THEIR CARS AND HAVE THEIR KIDS GO IN THEIR HOME IN THEIR BACKYARD AND NEVER HAVE AN EXISTENCE WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS.

WE WANT THOSE AREAS TO BE ACTIVATED.

WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE WALKING ON THE STREETS, IF WE'RE BLESSED, EXCUSE ME.

IF EVERYTHING'S FOCUSED IN ONE SPOT, WE DON'T THINK THAT CREATES THAT ENVIRONMENT.

THOSE PONDS, THAT THE NORTHEAST CORNER IS 2.9 ACRES.

THE SOUTHWEST CORNER IS 4.9 ACRES.

THE POND ITSELF IS LESS THAN AN ACRE IN SIZE ON BOTH OF THOSE AREAS.

SO OVER HALF OF THE AREA, ALMOST TWO THIRDS OF THE AREA ON THE NORTH SIDE IS GOING TO BE GREEN OPEN SPACE.

UH, AS I SAID, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE OF A MANICURED, UH, SPACE, SIMILAR TO WHAT THE SLIDE IS IN THE LOWER LEFT HAND CORNER, THE BOTTOM, RIGHT? THE BOTTOM LEFT-HAND PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE IT'S MORE NATURAL, FIVE ACRES OF GREEN SPACE, NATURAL GREEN SPACE SAVING OVER ALMOST 7,000 CALIPER INCHES OF TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO RESPECT THE SITE.

WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH WHAT WAS GIVEN TO US AND RESPECTED,

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EMBRACE IT AND MAKE IT A VALUABLE PART OF THE COMMUNITY ARE THAT, THAT DETENTION FACILITY RIGHT THERE, THAT RETENTION POT.

IF YOU LOOK TO THE NORTHEAST AND BEER CREEKS NEIGHBORHOOD, THIRD DETENTION FACILITIES ARE DRIED GREEN OPEN SPACES.

THEY DON'T HAVE LAKES.

THEY DON'T HAVE PONDS THAT ARE MAINTAINED AND AERATED.

THAT BECOMES AN AMENITY FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE'S HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL.

WALKING AROUND THAT WE'VE WORKED WITH THE STAFF, AS I SAID, IT'S AN EXTREMELY COLLABORATIVE DESIGN WITH THE STAFF IN TERMS OF WHAT THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

IF THE COUNCIL APPROVES IT, WE, I THINK THAT IS AN EXTREME POSITIVE FOR THIS AREA, FOR THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, VERSUS HAVING EVERYTHING CONSOLIDATED IN A FIVE ACRE PARK THAT HAS A PLAYGROUND IN IT AND NOTHING ELSE.

AND THEN THAT'S A DESIGN PREFERENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT WE, WE FOUND THAT THIS IS, WE KNOW THIS IS WHAT THE HOME BUYERS IN TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT, WHAT THEY DON'T WANT, A FIVE, 10 ACRE NEIGHBORHOOD PARK THAT IS LOCATED EVERY MILE AND A HALF THAT YOU HAVE TO DRIVE SHOE AND TAKE YOUR KIDS TO.

THEY WANT THE SCATTER OPEN SPACES THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOODS SO THAT IF I HAVE A 10 OR 12 YEAR OLD CHILD GO HOP ON THE BIKE AND GO, BECAUSE I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE.

AND, AND WE TRULY BELIEVE THAT THAT OPEN SPACE DESIGN CREATES THAT THAT GROOVE BELT RAN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A, IS A HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL ALONG THERE WITH VEGETATION, AS WE, AS WE'VE SHOWN THEM IN THE SLIDES SEATING AREAS, ALONG THE, AROUND THE GREENBELT, TO GIVE THOSE PLACES FOR YOU TO STOP AND HAVE CONVERSATION WITH SOMEBODY, WE WILL TRULY BELIEVE IN YOU.

THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT A NEIGHBORHOOD IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

AND WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE HAVE TAKEN WHAT WOULD HAVE GONE INTO LARGER LOTS.

AND WE HAVE MADE IT COMMON GREENS.

WE HAVE TO LANDSCAPE IT.

WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

IT'S AN HOA.

THEY WILL HAVE DUES.

THEY WILL HAVE TO MAINTAIN IT.

WE EXPECT 100% BUY-IN BECAUSE IT IS WHAT THEY ENJOY IS WHAT THEY LIVE WITH EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK.

THOSE ARE ALL COSTS.

THOSE ARE ALL BENEFITS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE TYPICALLY TAKE THAT SQUARE FOOTAGE AND STICK IT IN THE LOTS.

WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE COMMENTS.

YES, SIR.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY, CUSTOMER.

SO, UH, AND THE CITY, I WON'T SAY, I'M SAYING YES, SIR.

CUSTOMER.

REMEMBER A CUSTOMER MAY PUT SOME STAMPS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF.

UM, CAUSE IT'S BEEN KIND OF A LONG MEETING.

UM, SO I'LL JUST SAY THAT I HEARD YOUR COMMENT ABOUT CREATE NEIGHBORHOODS VERSUS SUBDIVISIONS, BUT THE SUB THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN LOOKS LIKE A STANDARD SUBDIVISION TO ME.

UM, AND WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND THERE'S THIS CONCEPT OF INCORPORATING GREEN SPACE.

AND THERE'S, I SAW A DOCUMENT WHERE GREEN SPACE WAS SORTA INCORPORATED IN AND IT WALKED AWAY FROM THE STANDARD.

IT MADE ME EMBRACE IT BECAUSE IT WAS WALKING AWAY FROM THE STANDARD SUBDIVISION GRID.

AND THIS IS WHAT I SEE.

I SEE A STANDARD SUBDIVISION GRID.

UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOUR, YOUR SEVEN, EIGHT DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT THAT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU'VE GOT 3.6 HOMES BREAKER.

AND I BELIEVE WHAT'S, WHAT'S PROPOSED IS ABOUT THREE HOMES PER ACRE, WHICH SIX TENTHS PER 6.6 TENTHS OF A HOME PER ACRE TIMES, ALMOST 69

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ACRES.

THAT'S ABOUT 40 UNITS.

AND THAT THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSITY IN HERE THAN, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED FOR THE FUTURE.

AND SO I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE LEVEL OF, OF DENSITY.

I HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE, UM, IT JUST LOOKS LIKE A STANDARD SUBDIVISION.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO SAY, SO I, I WAS JUST A LITTLE HISTORY.

I WAS A CITY MANAGER HERE IN 2000, UH, FOR ALMOST 15 YEARS.

AND, UM, THE BEAR CREEK SUBDIVISION WAS A NEGOTIATED COMPROMISE BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN SOME PRE-EXISTING ZONING APPROVED BY COUNCIL MULTIPLE YEARS BEFORE THAT HAD, UH, APPROVAL OF SOMETHING LIKE 800.

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST HUGE.

AND WE NEGOTIATED, UH, THE, THE PROPERTY OWNER HAD RIGHTS TO THE ZONING THAT A PREVIOUS COUNCIL HAD GIVEN THEM.

AND WE, IN A NEGOTIATION PROCESS, WE CAME UP WITH BEAR CREEK, WHICH WAS A COMPROMISE BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE ENDED UP WITH SOMETHING WORSE.

SO BEAR CREEK WASN'T, UH, THE WONDERFUL THING IS IT WAS A COMPROMISE.

AND THAT'S WHAT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT IF THIS IS FAR WORSE THAN THAT COMPROMISE, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE DENSITY AND THE GRID PATTERN AND THE OPEN.

I WON'T SUPPORT THE MOTION.

UM, I BELIEVE HE HEARD FROM, FROM, FROM MOST OF ALL THE COUNCIL.

YES, SIR.

UM, IF I MAY, UM, WELL, I'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND I WAS GOING TO ASK TO BE TABLED COUNSEL FEELS APPROPRIATE.

THANK YOU.

UM, THAT THAT'D BE FINE.

YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT BEFORE YOU DO THAT.

I WANT TO, I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE AUDIENCE.

YOU CAN HAVE A SEAT.

THANK YOU.

AND I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS YOUR NAME AGAIN? JERRY SILO SILO.

THAT'S RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UM, I WANNA SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY FOR A SECOND.

UM, AND I'M GONNA TRY TO MAKE IT AS I'M GONNA TRY AND MAKE IT BRIEFLY COMPREHENSIVE AS POSSIBLE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

UM, I'VE BEEN LIVING IN CEDAR HILL SINCE 94.

UH, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF GROWTH, UM, AND I HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE 2008 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND, YOU KNOW, FORTUNATE TO SEE HOW THAT GOT DEVELOPED DUE TO THE PLANE THAT THE CITIZENS ACTUALLY COME TOGETHER AND, UH, RECOMMEND THAT TO COUNCIL.

UM, WE ARE ABOUT 30 TO 60 DAYS OF ADOPTING THE NEW COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN IS, BUT THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT A BLUEPRINT OF WHAT, YOU KNOW, OUR FUTURE WOULD BE THE NEXT 20, 30 YEARS.

UM, WE HAVE A MEMBER OF MR. MALONE, WHO'S WHO'S HE WHO SERVES ON THAT COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE.

AND THEY HAVE WORKED FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF TO, IN ORDER TO TRY TO INFORM THE RESIDENTS, CITIZENS OF CEDAR HILL ABOUT THIS PLAN.

THEY LITERALLY BEGGING PEOPLE FOR INPUT.

ALL RIGHT, IN ORDER TO BE PUT INTO THIS PLAN.

NOW WE'RE AT THE FINAL STAGES OF THIS PLAYER AND HAVE A DEVELOPER WHO'S HERE.

WHO'S WILLING TO MEET WITH THE CURRENT ACTIVE PLAN 2008 AND INCLUDING A PROPOSED PLAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL.

SO FOR THAT TIP MY HAT TO YOU, BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE JUST WENT, LET OUR CURRENT STANDARDS, YOU COULD HAVE CONTESTED THAT AND, AND, AND, AND, AND, AND WHATEVER YOU PROPOSE AND, AND WENT ON, BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO BE FLEXIBLE IN ORDER TO, TO, TO MEET OUR PROPOSED PLAN, UM, YOU KNOW, DON'T SPEAK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, VOLUMES ABOUT YOUR CHARACTER.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, THERE'S QUESTIONS.

I WANT TO TRY TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS.

THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT TRAFFIC STUDY AND SAFETY.

I WANT TO GIVE A REAL LIFE EXAMPLE ABOUT HOW A TRAFFIC STUDY AND DEVELOPMENT CAN ACTUALLY COME INTO FRUITION.

UM, LAKE RIDGE, BELTLINE ROAD, GOING INTO GRAND PRAIRIE.

THAT PROJECT WAS FIRST FUNDED IN 1998.

IF YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THAT PROJECT JESSICA CONSTRUCTED GOT DESIGNED, CONSTRUCTED AND BUILT ABOUT 2017, GOT ABOUT RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT AROUND 2017, WHY DID IT TAKE ABOUT 20 YEARS FOR THAT TO BE ABLE TO GET DEVELOPED? BUT NUMBER ONE, WE TRY TO LEVERAGE FUNDS,

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RIGHT? WE TRY TO TAKE TAX DOLLARS, BUT WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO LEVERAGE FUNDS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, WITH THE STATE AND THE COUNTY.

AND WE JUST DIDN'T RECEIVE ENOUGH DOLLARS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD THAT ROAD.

BUT THE TRAFFIC STUDY TOLD US THAT WE GOING TO NEED TO BE ABLE TO BUILD A ROAD HERE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE, UM, MORE TRAFFIC ON OUR ROADWAYS.

SO IT'S ONE THING FOR US TO DO A TRAFFIC STUDY.

IT'S ANOTHER THING FOR US TO BE ABLE TO REACT TO THAT STUDY, RIGHT.

WE'RE SEEING 67 RIGHT NOW, JUST GOT EXPANDED.

THAT'S BEEN IN THE KOREANS FOR ABOUT 20, 30 YEARS.

IF YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS, YOU REMEMBER WHEN 67 WAS JUST A ONE WAY ROAD GOING IN ONE WAY BACK AND FORTH.

UM, SO ANYWAY, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A DEVELOPMENT NOW, SUBDIVISION NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY NEIGHBORHOOD SPEED BUILT IN CEDAR HILL SINCE 2006, SINCE 2006, DOWNTURN OF THE ECONOMY WAS PLAYING A MAJOR PART OF THAT.

UM, THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS, WAS TALKED ABOUT IN PLANS BACK IN 2008 TIMING WASN'T RIGHT.

ECONOMICALLY, UH, FOR IT TO ACTUALLY COME BEFORE US NOW.

UM, SO IT'S KIND OF BEEN ON A SHIFT SINCE 2008 MAY SOUND ABOUT RIGHT.

2008.

SO I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ON THE SHELF FOR ABOUT 2008, AND NOW YOU HEAR TWO, TWO VERSE OR CONCERNS, UH, WHICH IS VALID AND THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF A PUBLIC HEARING, BUT I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW, UH, I DON'T KNOW, SOME OF YOU SAID YOU JUST MOVED THERE FIVE YEARS AGO, BUT THIS DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, WAS ACTUALLY ON THE SELF LONGER THAN THAT.

UM, WE HAVE WITHIN OUR CURRENT PROPOSED PLAN, WE'RE TRYING TO PUT IN MORE AMENITIES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

WE JUST DON'T WANT WHAT YOU JUST SAY.

PROTIUM JUST TO THE STANDARD BLOCK NEIGHBORHOOD STREETS, WHAT KIND OF WANT MORE OF EACH NEIGHBORHOOD TO KIND OF HAVE ITS OWN IDENTITY, KIND OF HAVE ITS OWN FIELD? UM, I BELIEVE THAT'S, WHAT'S PROPOSED FROM THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN COMMITTEE AND STAFF.

YOU KNOW, WE WERE ASKED TO BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT INCLUDES, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND, AND IN, IN, IN THE MEANINGS AND TRAILS AND, UM, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY, MR. SILER IS, YOU KNOW, WE ACTUALLY HAVE MATS OR IMMUNITIES THAT I DON'T WANT TO JUST RUN OVER.

I JUST WANT, I DON'T WANT ACTUALLY INCORPORATE THAT INTO OF SUBDIVISION.

I THINK THAT'S A GREAT CONCEPT, HONESTLY, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO SELL THAT.

I GET IT.

UM, BUT WITHIN OUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A TRAILS PARKS MASTER PLAN, OUR TRAILS PARKS PLAN.

UH, OUR PLAN ON THE COUNCIL IS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TRAILS AND PARKS, TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WHAT ARE TRENDS THROUGHOUT OUR WHOLE CITY AND HAVE ALL OF OUR TRAILS BE ABLE TO CONNECT TOWARDS EACH OTHER'S PARKS AND TRAILS.

AND THE BIG PLAN IS FOR OUT FOR THOSE TRAILS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO THAT AS COUNTY TRAILS.

SO TO LOOK AT THE BIG PICTURE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER, AND THIS IS OUR FIRST SUBDIVISION.

WE JUST HAD A TOWN HOME THAT CAME BEFORE US TODAY, BUT THIS IS TECHNICALLY THE FIRST I SAID, ACTUALLY STONEHILL, UH, ACTUALLY WAS THE FIRST, BUT THIS IS PROBABLY OUR SECOND SUBDIVISION.

THIS CAME BEFORE US.

AND HE'S ACTUALLY TRYING TO PUT TOGETHER THE TRIALS TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO OUR OTHER TRENDS AND BE ABLE TO PUT THOSE AMENITIES TOGETHER.

NOW, UH, I WROTE DOWN A BUNCH OF THINGS AND I'LL PROBABLY, UH, LEAVING SOME THINGS OFF.

UM, BUT I GUESS IT'S JUST TRYING TO SAY IS I JUST KIND OF WANT EVERYONE TO KIND OF LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, MORE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME HISTORY HOW WE GOT HERE TODAY.

UM, HE DIDN'T JUST BUY THIS LAND, OUR PROPOSAL BY THE LAND, UH, JUST LAST YEAR, A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

I MEAN, IT'S BEEN ON A SHELF, UM, BUT SINCE THEN STAFF HAS BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO UPDATE THESE ARE OUR, OF OUR CURRENT STANDARDS.

UM, AND ESSENTIALLY THAT'S WHAT DEVELOPERS ARE, YOU'RE STARTING TO MEET TODAY.

SO, UM, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO LEAVE HERE, NOT THINKING THAT THE COUNCIL IS, IS, HAS, HAS EMPATHY FOR YOUR CONCERNS.

SO WE DO.

UM, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S PROBABLY JUST WARRANTED FOR US TO KIND OF GIVE A LITTLE HISTORY.

SO, UH, I'LL TAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND WE GO AHEAD AND TABLE IT.

UM, JUST TO CLARIFY, COUNSEL DID NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT MAKING A MOTION SUBJECT TO TABLING, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TABLE IS, BUT, UH, WHENEVER YOU FEEL IT'S NECESSARY FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS US IN THE MEANTIME, IF YOU ARE PLANNING TO COME BACK BEFORE US, UM, WE DO HAVE ADDRESSES WITHIN THE MINUTES.

UM, IF YOU COULD TRY TO MEET BACK WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITIZENS HERE, UM, IT WOULD KIND OF GIVE ME THE WOMAN FUZZY TO KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WAS HEARD AND MAYBE THERE MIGHT BE SOME COMPROMISE THERE, OR MAYBE THIS HISTORY KIND OF HELPED, YOU KNOW, MEET AND MEET IN THE MIDDLE.

I'M NOT SURE.

UM,

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SO I THINK THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT ON MY PART COUNSELOR WAS THERE.

I KIND OF TOUCHED ON SOME THINGS IT'S GOOD.

ALL RIGHT.

SO I NEED A MOTION FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD.

I JUST WANT TO JUST ECHO WHAT YOU SAID AS FAR AS, UM, HAVING THE INTEREST IN, IN THE YEARS FOR OUR, FOR OUR CITIZENS, WITH REGARDS TO THEIR CONCERNS.

UM, AGAIN, I JUST, I REITERATE THAT, YOU KNOW, CEDAR HILLS GOING TO GROW AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA MOVE ANYWHERE, ESPECIALLY IN A, IN, IN A METROPOLITAN AREA AND EXPECT NOT TO HAVE GROWTH.

IT'S ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT TO KNOW THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THAT NOTHING'S EVER GOING TO DEVELOP IF YOU KNEW THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF WE TALKED ABOUT LUKE NINE HAS BEEN ON THERE OVER 50 YEARS.

UH, SO WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT, PEOPLE COME FORWARD AND SAY, HEY, AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.

AND THEY'RE SAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, IF I'D HAVE KNOWN THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE MOVED HERE, YOU KNOW, UM, DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO OCCUR.

AND I KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL HAS THE EAR OF ALL OF THE CITIZENS IN THE CONCERNS, BUT WE TRY TO HAVE TO WEIGH OUT AND HAVE A BALANCE AND, AND MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON WHAT WE FEEL AND HOPEFULLY MITIGATE, NEGOTIATE AND COME OUT WITH A WIN-WIN DEAL.

SO, UM, I'VE JUST BEEN INFORMED THAT THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS STILL OPEN.

SO LET ME CLOSE IT OFFICIALLY BEFORE THE MOTION IS SAID, AND ALLOW ME TO SAY THIS TOO.

UM, I THINK IT'S A, I THINK IT'S A BADGE THAT EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM SHOULD PROBABLY BE PROUD OF.

UM, AND OF ALL THE CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES PUBLIC PUBLISHED, I THINK ABOUT A MONTH AGO, CEDAR HILL, HIS NAME WITHIN THE TOP 10 FROM NEW YORK TIMES AS THE NEXT DESTINATION TO MOVE IN CEDAR HILLS WAS LIKE, NUMBER SIX ON THAT LIST.

RIGHT.

SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW, NEW YORK TIMES RECOGNIZE CEDAR HILL OF ALL CITIES IN THE UNITED STATES, UH, AS A DESTINATION TO LIVE.

UM, SO I JUST WANT, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

UM, UH, SO ANYWAY, IN FACT, COUNCIL, THE FLOOR IS OPEN FOR, FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, NO RETURN WITH THIS PRODUCT.

I DON'T HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE TO HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, UH, DO HAVE A SECOND FROM CUSTOMER AND THE RELEVANT ON THE PHONE.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND MOTION, ENEMIES.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR UNDERSTANDING.

[6. Citizens Forum/Public Comments. Citizens wishing to speak during this time should submit a Speaker Request Form to the City Secretary before the meeting begins. Public comments may also be submitted online at: cedarhilltx.com/publiccomment. All public comments submitted online by 4pm on City Council meeting dates will be distributed to the City Council and entered into record. ]

ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS, UM, CITIZENS FROM, UH, IN, UH, CITIZENS WILLING TO ADJUST ANY SUBJECT DURING THE CITIZENS FOR PERSONAL THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING, THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT TAKE ACTION ON ANY MATTER THAT IS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA, BUT ISSUES MAY BE FAIR TO CITY STAFF OR PLACED ON ANY FUTURE AGENDA.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE ANY ONLINE, UM, FIRMS. SO COUNCIL, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THAT, BUT I DO HAVE, UH, TWO CITIZENS HERE THAT WANT TO SPEAK FOR US.

UM, SO, UH, I GUESS THERE'S AN ENGAGEMENT.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND AFTER THREE MINUTES YOU WILL BE MUTED.

UH, FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, DR.

PARAMATTA GRAYSON, UH, TOPIC IS, UH, I BELIEVE IT SAYS OFFICER EXCHANGE, DR.

PAMELA, AND FIRST OF ALL, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, UH, COMING FROM AND DUE TO A RECENT INCIDENT.

I'M SORRY, BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, WE NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE.

THAT'S THE KREMLIN GRAYSON FIVE TO SEVEN GOLD SHEET, DALLAS, TEXAS, BUT I COME TO YOU TODAY FOR AN INCIDENT THAT HAPPENED ON DECEMBER 4TH AT ALTITUDE TRAMPOLINE PARK.

I WAS SITTING THERE, UM, I NOTICED THE INFLUX OF BLACK BOYS, AND THEN I SAW THE POLICE.

I HAD A LOOK OF SHOCK ON MY FACE, BUT I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING.

ONE OF YOUR OFFICERS BEGAN TO STARE AT ME.

I TURNED AWAY BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT THE EXCHANGE.

I TURNED BACK AROUND.

SHE'S STILL STARING AT ME AND THEN WAVING AT ME INDICATING SHE WANTS THE EXCHANGE.

SO BASICALLY I ASKED HER, WHY ARE YOU HERE? SHE SAYS, WE GET PAID TO WALK AROUND.

I SAID, ARE YOU HERE BECAUSE OF AN INFLUX OF BLACK BOYS? AND THEN SHE PROCEEDED TO CALL ME NAMES THAT WOULD BE OFFICER MICHELLE MARTINEZ.

NOW UNDERSTAND THIS.

I HAVE BEEN TO THAT TRAMPOLINE PARK, 10, 15 TIMES THAT CHILD'S SIX BIRTHDAY PARTY WAS HELD THERE.

I PURCHASED A TABLE.

THEY GAVE ME A ROOM.

THAT WAS THE RELATIONSHIP SHE BEGAN TO FREELY START CALLING ME NAMES.

WHEN I ASKED THAT QUESTION, SUCH AS IGNORANT AND FOOLISH NOW UNDERSTAND THIS.

YOU'RE AN OFFICER YOU'RE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD.

IF I COME TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT YOUR MOTHER, YOU ARE STILL NOT SUPPOSED TO MEET ME WITH THAT LEVEL OF CONVERSATION.

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO RISE ABOVE THAT.

SHE FREELY STARTED HURLING, INSULTS.

SHE BEING WALKED TO HER PARTNER.

SHE TAPPED HIM ON THE SHOULDER, THEN POINTED AT ME, STARTING TO LAUGH, CONTINUING TO CALL ME NAMES.

I CALLED THE NAMES BACK AND SHE GOT ME.

SO THEN I LEFT.

WELL, ACTUALLY THEY PUT ME OUT, WHICH I DON'T CARE, BUT HERE'S THE FLIGHT ISSUE.

AFTER RESEARCH COME TO FIND OUT THAT OFFICER MARTINEZ HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN CEDAR HILL FOR A WHILE.

A FEW YEARS AGO, I GUESS SHE PULLED PROMINENT DALLAS ATTORNEY, JUSTIN MOORE, OUT OF HIS CAR, OVER A MINOR VIOLATION AND ACCUSED HIM OF BEING A DRUG DEALER.

NOW, THERE ARE OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE WILLING TO COME WELL.

I'M TELLING YOU THAT THEY'RE JUST SCARED TO COME SPEAK.

I GOT ONE.

I CONVINCED HER TO COME TONIGHT, BUT SHE HAD A FAMILIAR OBLIGATION.

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APPARENTLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THEY PUSH BACK, THEY ARE THEN FURTHER HARASSED BY CEDAR HILL POLICE AND THEN CODE ENFORCEMENT IS SENT TO THEM TO TAG EVERYTHING.

AND I GOT THAT STORY FROM THREE DIFFERENT VICTIMS ON THREE DIFFERENT PHONE CALLS ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS.

SEE THE HERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

THIS IS NO LONGER JUST ABOUT ME.

I COULD WALK AWAY FROM THIS, BUT WHEN I'M HEARING ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS CRIED ON THE PHONE TO ME, THANK YOU, DR.

GRAYSON FOR SAYING SOMETHING BECAUSE SHE'S TOO SCARED OF RETALIATION.

WHAT I'M TRYING TO DO IS PREVENT ANOTHER AMBER GEIGER, AT LEAST BOWEL OR KIMBERLY POTTER SITUATION, BECAUSE THIS YOUNG LADY HAS GOTTEN AWAY WITH STUFF FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SHE FEELS PROTECTED, BUT NAMES ROLLED OFF HER MOUTH A LITTLE TOO QUICKLY, AND IT WILL ARISE INTO A SITUATION WHERE SHE FEELS THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE PROTECTED AFTER SHE HURTS MAINS OR KILL SOMEBODY.

THIS IS A PROBLEM.

I AM PULLING THESE SPLIT AGAINST TOGETHER TO BRING LAWSUIT BECAUSE THERE IS A PATTERN ESTABLISHED DR.

GRAYSON MIX, UM, CITIZEN TO HAVE HIS LEGAL OPINION, UH, TOPIC, INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR BY A POLICE OFFICER.

YES.

MY NAME IS LEEWAY PENA.

I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE RED HAND WORLD SOCIETY.

AND I'M THE LEGISLATIVE ADVISOR.

SO DID I GET YOUR ADDRESS? I'M ENROLLED MEMBER OF THE LEEP AND APACHE DRIVES DEPENDING ON THE, I GET YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR ADDRESS.

UH, THEY HAVE IT WRITTEN DOWN.

I WOULDN'T, I WON'T SPEAK IT OUT LOUD, BUT, UH, MY ADDRESS IS ON FILE.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE YET.

I JUST HAVE YOUR NUMERICAL ADDRESS.

I'LL TELL IT TO THEM.

MAY PROCEED, SIR.

THE INCIDENT WITH, UH, DR.

GRAYSON IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT REGARDING THIS OFFICER.

NOW, IF YOU WERE TO GOOGLE CEDAR HILL POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND LOOK AT THE GOOGLE REVIEWS, YOU'LL SEE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ONE-STAR REVIEWS ON THE CEDAR HILL POLICE GOING BACK FOUR OR FIVE YEARS.

NOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IF IT'S NOT CAUGHT RIGHT NOW, IT COULD DEVELOP INTO A REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEM.

NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE BEING DISRESPECTED LIKE THAT IN FRONT OF THEIR CHILDREN.

YOU KNOW, BEING CALLED NAMES, UH, DR.

GRAYSON IS A RESPECTED MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE CAN'T HAVE, WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA BECOME OF OUR APPEARANCE HERE TONIGHT, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE THE PROGRESS MADE, BUT I CHALLENGE Y'ALL TO GOOGLE CEDAR HILL POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SEE FOR YOURSELF.

THESE ARE CITIZENS OF CEDAR HILL WHO ARE, WHO ARE COMMENTING ON, THEY'RE PUTTING UP THESE REVIEWS.

THIS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE MANUFACTURED, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.

SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL REALLY NEED TO OPEN AN INVESTIGATION ON YOU.

I MEAN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN REALLY, REALLY BLOW UP INTO SOMETHING SERIOUS.

SO I SUGGEST THAT YOU DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND YOU OPEN UP A COMMITTEE TO INVESTIGATE THIS.

CAUSE IT'S NOT JUST US TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT WHEN THAT ATTORNEY THAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO POSTED ABOUT IT, THERE WERE TONS OF COMMENTS ABOUT HER, TONS OF COMMENTS ABOUT HER.

AND THESE ARE NOT JUST PEOPLE.

WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THESE PEOPLE WHO WERE MAKING THESE COMMENTS ABOUT HER, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY SERIOUS AND Y'ALL HAVE TO REALLY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, MR. UNION.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE COUNSEL FOR ASSISTANCE PHONE.

[7. Consent Agenda: The Consent Agenda includes routine items that may be acted upon with a single vote. Any council member may remove items from the Consent Agenda for separate discussion and consideration.]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CONSENT AGENDA.

UH, COUNSEL, I ASKED OUT HERE, ARE THERE ANY ITEMS TO BE REMOVED FROM CONSENT? IF NOT, I WILL SHALL PROCEED.

CASSINA TIN ITEM SEVEN EIGHT, CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 2ND, 2020 21 SPECIAL CARDS, JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION MEETING AND THE NOVEMBER 9TH, 2020 AND 20 20 21, NOT THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING ADAM SEVEN B CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 2021 DASH 7 42 ADOPTED THE 2018 NATIONAL PLUMBING CODE.

UH, UM, CAUSE THEN ITEM SEVEN C CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 DESK 7 43, UH, DOVE INTO 2018 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE A CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM SEVEN, A D CONSIDER

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APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 DASH 7 4 4 ADOPTING THE INTERNATIONAL IN INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE SEVEN E CONSIDER APPROVING ONE IT'S NUMBERS, 2021 DESK 7 4 5 ADOPTED IN 2017 NATIONAL ELECTRICAL CODE SEVEN F CONSIDER A PROBING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021.

IN 2018 NATIONAL ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE ITEM SEVEN G CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 DASH 7 4 7 ABDUCTED IN 2018 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE, UM, ITEM SEVEN H UH, CONSIDER APPROVING ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021, THEN 7 4 8, 2018 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE.

I DIDN'T MISS ANY, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL.

GOOD, UH, ITEM SEVEN.

I CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASE IN THE AMOUNT OF 7,300 AND 365,600 FOR ASPHALT STREET IMPROVEMENT WITH REYNOLDS ASPHALT AND CONSTRUCTION COMPANY.

BY THE WAY, THANK YOU FOR THE VARIETY OF LOCATIONS ON THAT.

UM, ITEM SEVEN J CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ASK YOU TO WORK AUTHORIZATION NUMBER 2021 DESK TO THE LAST YOU SET UP A GROUP FOR MATERIAL TESTING SERVICES FOR THE STORM HILL SUBDIVISION PHASE ONE DEVELOPMENT ITEM SEVEN K CASE NUMBER, UH, SP 308, 2021 IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLANNING ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION.

CONSIDER AN APPLICATION FOR THE, FOR A SITE PLAN ON PROPERTY ZONE, AH, INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF HIGHWAY SIX AND SEVEN J ELMER WEAVER, FREEWAY AND MOUNT LEBANON ROAD WITH THE APPROXIMATE ADDRESS BEING 1356, J M A RIVER FREEWAY, AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT TO REDUCE THE TREE MITIGATION FEE TO NOT EXCEED 25% OF THE DATA CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT LAND VALUATION ON SAID PROPERTY REPRESENTATIVE J KENNAN GREEN, L I T SRP, UH, LEBANON SEATED HERE, DESK LLC, SORRY, COMMA, LLC, APPLICANT DYLAN, UH, ADAM KIMMY HORN AND PROPERTY OWNERS, 1535 NORTH CICERO AVENUE, CORPORATION, DOUGLAS SMITH AND LIONS EQUITIES INCORPORATED 4 4 3 0 1 8 CEDAR HILL AND OUR GIRLS USA, LLC.

UH, ITEM CASE NUMBER SP THREE 900 2021.

AND OF COURSE WITH A PENDING ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION, CONSIDER AN APPLICATION BY A SAFE PLAN ON A PROPERTY ZONE.

I INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT GENERALLY LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF HIGHWAY 67, A M A WEAVER FREEWAY NORTH OF CASEY CAME RAID WITH THE APPROXIMATE ADDRESS BEING 800 SOUTH HIGHWAY 67 AND EIGHT, 10 SOUTH JM AND WEAVER FREEWAY ADVOCATE, PATRICK HOGAN, KIMMIE HALL AND PROPERTY OWNER, UH, GEORGE B. COX, UH, UH, SONICS, UH, SUNNY CYCLES AND A C AND MIKE LIEBERMAN, UH, MOTLOW INCORPORATED, ADAM IN CONSIDER OTHERWISE AN AMANDA ASQ.

THEY CONTRACT WITH BTC INSTITUTE TO CONDUCT THE 2022 COMMUNITY SURVEY.

UM, IN CONSIDER THE AUTHORIZATION, THE MA CONSIDER WEATHERIZATION THE MAYOR TO ASK YOU TO RECOMMENDATION, GOOD AGREEMENT, FEDERAL SET AWARD, AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE DEPARTMENT FOR REIMBURSABLE EXPENSES RELATED TO LAGOON AT VIRGINIA WEAVER PARK IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 750,000 SUBJECT TO FINAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, COUNSEL BURROWS ARE YOUR CONSENT, UH, AGENDA ITEMS. I LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA ITEMS THAT SPRITE DO ANOTHER MOSER FROM CUSTOM MCGREGOR.

DO ONE SECOND.

SECOND FROM THE PROTEIN.

HEY MARIE.

HEY, THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 20 21 7 42, AN OIL TO THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS ADOPTING THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL PLUMBING CODE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CHAPTER FOUR.

UH, ARTICLE 12, UM, ARTICLE SEVEN, EXCUSE ME, UH, SECTIONS OF OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL TEXAS, PROVIDING A SAVINGS COST FOR FIGHTING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR INCORPORATION INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR AN IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDED FOR A PUBLICATION.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021, THERE 7 43 AN ORDINANCE AT THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS ADOPTING THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL MECHANICAL CODE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE SIX, SECTION FOUR DASH 1 0 1 TO FOUR DASH 1 0 3 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROHIBITING FOREIGN CORPORATION INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR OUR IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDING FOR A PUBLICATION.

THIS IS ON THIS NUMBER 2021.

THERE ARE 7 44, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS ADOPTING THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL FUEL GAS CODE PROVIDING FOR THE APPEAL OF CHAPTER POOR ARTICLE 20 SECTIONS FOUR DASH 4 21 THROUGH FOUR DASH 4 22 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF SAN JOSE,

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TEXAS WRITING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR CORPORATION INTO THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDING FOR A PUBLICATION.

THIS IS ONE, THIS NUMBER 2021 DASH 7 45 AND ORDINANCE AT THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS PROVIDING FOR THE REPEL OF CHAPTER FOUR, ARTICLE FIVE, SECTIONS FOUR DASH 81 AT THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, AND OR ORDINANCE NUMBER 2016 DASH 608 AND ADOPTING THE 2017 ELECTRICAL CODE AND PLACE THEREOF PROVIDING FOR SAVINGS COST, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR A CORPORATION, ENTERED THE CODE OF ORDINANCES AND PROVIDING FOR IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDING FOR LOCATION.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021 DAY 7 46, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS ADOPTING THE 2018 ENERGY CONSERVATION CODE PROVIDING FOR THE REPEAL OF CHAPTER FOUR.

ARTICLE 19, THAT AFFECTION SPORT S FOUR ONE THROUGH FOUR DASH TWO OTHER CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES, PROVIDING FOR SEVERANCE, PROVIDING FOR COOPERATION IS THE CODE OF ORDINANCES READY FOR IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION.

THIS IS ORDINANCE NUMBER 2021.

I 7 47, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SERIAL TESTS AT TOP IN THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL BUILDING CODE PROVIDING FOR THE APPEAL OF ARTICLE FOUR, SECTIONS 4 61 THROUGH 4 62 OF THE QUARTER ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS, AND THE ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE THOUGH UP PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR PENALTIES FOR BINDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROVIDING POOR COOPERATION INTO THE CEDAR MILL CODE OF ORDINANCES, PROVIDING FOR IMMEDIATE EFFECT AND PROVIDING FOR PUBLICATION.

THIS IS, OR THIS NUMBER 2021 BY 7 48, AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL, TEXAS ADOPTING THE 2018 INTERNATIONAL RESIDENTIAL CODE PROVIDING FOR THEIR APPEAL OF CHAPTER FOUR ARTICLES, 17 SECTIONS FOUR THAT'S, 3 51 THROUGH FOUR DASH 3 52 OF THE CODE OF ORDINANCES OF THE CITY OF CEDAR HILL TEXAS PROVIDED FOR PENALTIES PROVIDING A SAVINGS CLAUSE, PROVIDING A SEVERANCE CLAUSE, PROVIDING FOR IMMEDIATE EFFECT, AMPLIFIED FOR PUBLICATION, PEI, MARIE, YOU WANT TO CUT THE MIC ON YOU HAVE IT MOSTLY FROM CUSTOMER GLOVER AND I BELIEVE THERE'S MAYOR PRO TEM.

SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND MERGING ENEMIES.

THANK YOU COUNCIL.

[a. Consider authorizing the Mayor to execute a Construction Contract with SYB Construction Company, Inc. for the Downtown Streets Phase 1 Project.]

NOW WE MOVE TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM, A CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE A CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT WITH SYP CONSTRUCTION COMPANY INCORPORATED FOR THE DOWNTOWN STREET, UH, PHASE ONE PROJECT, THE MOTION FOR APPROVAL TO HAVE A SECOND, LIKE A CUSTOMER MCLAUGHLIN.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? COMMENTS ON THE FEBRUARY IS RIGHT IN.

DID YOU VOTE COUNCILMAN WOMAN UNANIMOUS ITEM B THOUGH.

OH, I HAVE ONE UPSTATE.

SO SIX, SIX MONTHS FORWARD WHEN ABSTAIN.

THANK YOU, SIR.

[b. Consider authorizing the Mayor to execute an agreement with Balfour Beatty Construction LLC for Construction Manager At Risk (CMAR) preconstruction services for the Library in a Park Project.]

UH, ITEM B, CONSIDER AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH BAFFLER BAILEY CONSTRUCTION MLC FOR CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AT RISK CMR PRE CONSTRUCTION SERVICES FOR THE LIBRARY IN A PARK PROJECT.

I BELIEVE WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES HERE WITH US TODAY AS VERY LONG NIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND SAY A FEW WORDS, OR IF IT'S UP TO YOU, COME ON BACK, YOU MIGHT AS WELL GOT A MILLION WORTH THE DRIVE GOING HOME.

UH, I GET 30 SECONDS.

NO, I DO APPRECIATE THE TIME.

UM, AND IT'S BEEN INTERESTING TO LISTEN TO EVERYTHING SHE DOESN'T NEED MY INTEREST.

DOES SHE THINK SO? YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN HOUR THAT WAY YOU DON'T WANT MY ADDRESS? UM, NO, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I WAS ACTUALLY DRIVING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN, LOOKING AT ALL THE INTERESTS, THE NEXT IT'S THREE AND A HALF FOR THE NEW LIBRARY.

WE'VE GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH MS. VALDEZ COMING SET UP YESTERDAY.

I THINK IT WAS AND THE TEAM, UM, SHE SAYS THAT THE SENIOR DANCE AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN CAUSE I HAVE NO PRIDE ON ANY RHYTHM.

UH, BUT NO, WE'RE REALLY EXCITED.

UM, WE'RE JUST GETTING STARTED.

WE KICKED OFF YESTERDAY.

UH, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WORK TO DO AS A TEAM, UH, JUST TO SEE THE LEVEL THAT Y'ALL PUT TO IT ALREADY WITH THE COMMUNITY INVOLVED.

UH, IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING PROJECT JUST FOR US TO LEAVE.

WE'VE BARELY TOUCHED THIS POINT AND I KNOW Y'ALL BEEN WORKING ON LINCOLN THINK OVER FIVE YEARS, PROBABLY MORE THAN LONGER THAN THAT, BUT I'M NOT REALLY YET.

WE'RE JUST EXCITED LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

IT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNATURE PROJECT FOR Y'ALL AND FOR US AS WELL.

SO WE'RE JUST, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

UM, AND UH, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE EXCITED MORE THAN WE ARE, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU'RE EXCITED.

JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION, I GUESS, UM, THE, UM, I GUESS THE, IS IT GOING TO BE A PRELIMINARY GUARANTEED MAX AND THAT'S ANTICIPATED TO BE ABOUT MARCH? SO WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE MEETING, THE KICKOFF, AND I DIDN'T

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KNOW IF WE'D ADDRESSED HERE IS, UM, AND I KNOW, UM, MR. VICE IS PROBABLY AWARE OF IT BEING IN THE INDUSTRY WITH CONSTRUCTION THE WAY IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S WE CONSTANTLY DEAL WITH IT.

I THINK TRANCHE, THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION IS THE EVER-CHANGING, THERE'S CERTAIN COMPONENTS OF BUILDINGS AT THIS POINT IN ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION THAT HAVE, UM, ESCALATION IS JUST, NOBODY CAN PREDICT IT.

I THINK THE QUESTION WAS EVEN ASKED TO OUR PRE-CON MANAGER THAT WAS HERE, WHAT'S YOUR CRYSTAL BALL.

AND I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT YOUNG LADY HIM HOME MORE THAN I HAVE SEEN THAT TIME, BECAUSE IT IS, I MEAN, WHEN IT COMES TO AN OPIC, TWO COMPONENTS OF YOUR LIBRARY FOR EXAMPLE, IS YOUR RUBY STRUCTURE AND YOUR HVC, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE YOUR MEP SYSTEMS. AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT THOSE, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE COMPONENTS THAT HOW HAVE LEAD TIMES THAT NOBODY'S EVER SEEN.

AND WHEN I SAY LEAD TIMES, HOW LONG IT TAKES TO GET, FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE SELLING CLIENTS ON A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THAT'S GOING TO START AT SIX MONTHS.

UM, ROOFING NOW TAKES ANYWHERE FROM 12 TO 14 MONTHS WHEN YOU USED TO TAKE WEEKS, MAYBE A MONTH.

SO NOW WE'RE HAVING TO ADVISE CLIENTS.

AND I THINK THAT MAINLY ASKED ME, HOW DO YOU PIVOT WHEN WE'RE IN THE INTERVIEW? UM, HOW WE'RE PIVOTING IS WE'RE HAVING TO COME TO BECAUSE WE DO NOTHING, BUT OUR GROUP DOES WITH BALFOUR BEATTY DOES MUNICIPAL PROJECTS AND WORKS FOR ICE DS WHERE TYPICALLY I WITH AN ISD OR, UM, A MUNICIPAL LIKE YOURSELF IS USED TO HAVING YOU GET THAT ONE PRICE OR GMP WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO COME TO BODIES NOW AND ASK THEM, YOU NEED TO, WE UNDERSTAND THE FULL BUDGET.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ALL WORKING TOWARDS TOGETHER AS A TEAM.

BUT I TREAT IT LIKE A PIE.

IF YOU WERE GOING TO TAKE A SLICE OF THAT PIE AND LET'S GO AHEAD AND REALLY WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE OF THE ESCALATION THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, WHICH I DIDN'T TOUCH ON THAT PIECE.

I MEAN, WE JUST SAW PRICING OVER A 6, 6, 8 MONTH PERIOD THAT WENT UP TO 16% FROM ONE PROJECT.

YES, THAT WAS EXACTLY THE SAME.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS LET'S GRAB COMPONENTS OF A PROJECT THAT WE CAN GO AND RELEASE.

ONCE WE WORKED THROUGH WITH THE ARCHITECT AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET WITH THIS TYPE OF BASE FEE SYSTEM OR THIS TYPE OF ROOF, AND WHILE WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH THE WHOLE DESIGN, LET'S RELEASE THOSE.

SO WHEN THE BUILDING'S READY TO BE BUILT, WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR THAT ROOF STRUCTURES SHOW UP.

AND THE BUILDING'S JUST SITTING THERE WAITING BECAUSE OF COURSE, EVERYONE WILL BE EXCITED THAT THE STRUCTURE GOES UP AND NOW THAT THE PROJECT IS STILL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING.

AND THE LAST ARE, WE ALL ARE HEARD.

THOSE ARE THE INDUSTRY.

LIKEWISE GET THE PRICING IS LET'S AS IT CONTINUES TO ESCALATE AT A RAPID PACE FOR NOT EVERYTHING BUT SOME COMPONENTS.

SO THIS WOULDN'T BE EVERYTHING.

IT WOULD PROBABLY BE.

WE'D BE STRATEGIC ABOUT SPECIFIC COMPONENTS.

FOR EXAMPLE, CONCRETE AND MASONRY RIGHT NOW ARE NOT EXPERIENCING THAT, BUT JUST TODAY, TALKING TO A CLIENT STEEL, ELECTRICAL ROOFING.

SO WE'D BE STRATEGIC ABOUT WHICH ONES WE'D COME TO YOU AT AND SAY, WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE WOULD CALL AN IGP OR EARLY GMP OR INITIAL GMP.

I'M SORRY TO RELEASE THOSE COMPONENTS WITHIN THE OVERALL BUDGET.

SO WE'D GET THEM RELEASED, GET THE MATERIAL HERE AND TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN EVER-CHANGING ESCALATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE HAVEN'T TARGETED WHICH ONE IS OUR, WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING YESTERDAY, BUT WE'LL MOST LIKELY BE COMING TO YOU WITH THE INTENT OF A PIECE OF THE PROJECT, REALLY FOR ORDERING THOSE AND GETTING THOSE RELEASE SO WE CAN GET, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PRICING AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE TIMES.

PERFECT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS FROM COUNCIL.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

UH, SO COUNCIL, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

MR. MAYOR.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE YOU TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT WITH BALFOUR BEATTY CONSTRUCTION AS THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK FOR THE, UH, CONSTRUCT PRE-CONSTRUCTION SERVICES OF THE LIBRARY OR NEW PROJECT IN THE PARK.

EXCITED TO SEE SECOND, MOSTLY FROM COUNCIL MEMBER MCCARDY AND SECOND FROM CUSTOMER HAYDEN.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY.

OKAY.

DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? OKAY.

DO YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND, MAN.

IT WAS UNANIMOUS.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL.

[c. Consider approving Resolution No. R21-641 casting one vote for the election of a representative to the Dallas Central Appraisal District’s Board of Directors for years 2022-2023.]

UH, CONSIDER APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER ARE 21 6 4 1 CASTING ONE VOTE FOR THE ELECTION OF A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE DENTIST CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR YEARS, 2022 DASH 2023.

AND I MAKE A MOTION FOR A CASTING.

OUR VOTE FOR MICRO HEART.

I HAVE, UH, WE DO HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND.

BANG CASTLE, COUNCILMAN DANIEL.

SORRY.

YES.

MA'AM UM, OH, ARE WE VOTING FOR TWO? UH, THE, BE THE REPRESENTATIVE OF DALLAS CENTER OF PARIS AT THIS TIME, I HAVE A REAL CONCERN.

UM, SO MICHAEL HURT HAS BEEN, OUR MICHAEL HURD HAS BEEN OUR REPRESENTATIVE FOR OUR AREA FOR THE PAST.

I DON'T KNOW, FIVE, 10.

OKAY.

ARE WE STILL GOING TO SUPPORT HIM? THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS I DON'T SEE THE NAME.

[02:50:03]

NO, I SEE OTHER CITIES.

THE NAMES OF OPUS THAT YOU PULLED IT UP, KATIE.

YEAH, I CLICKED ON IT AND I SEE OTHER CITIES, BUT I DON'T SEE THE NAME OF CTE.

IT SHOULD HAVE FIVE, FOUR OTHER NAMES ON THERE.

RIGHT.

BUT WHEREAS CEDAR HILLS, WE HAVEN'T NOMINATED.

YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I DIDN'T SEE HIS NAME ON HERE TOO.

TO RECOMMEND HIM.

I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH OUR REPRESENT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHO IT WAS.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER, UH, I DON'T SEE HIS NAME.

DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION? DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER NOMINATION? NO, I DON'T HAPPEN TO NOMINATION, BUT I HAVE, THESE ARE CITIES.

I ADDED SOME TO SELL IT OUT, BUT I DON'T SEE CEDAR HILLS NORMALLY.

UH, I DON'T EVEN SEE A PASS REPRESENTATIVE OUT HERE.

OKAY.

CAN YOU PULL IT UP ON THE BIG SCREEN? KATIE? ARE YOU ALREADY OUT OF IT? YOU MIGHT'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF YOU'RE ENLISTED.

WHO WAS THE PREVIOUS NOMINATE? NO.

OR YES.

CAN YOU POST THE AAV? UH, THAT'S THIS TAB HERE STICKING OUT, WHICH IS SAYING, CAN YOU PUSH, UH, AB YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO, SO MICHAEL HARRIS WAS NOMINATED FROM, YOU KNOW, ADDISON DISORDER, FARMERS, BRANCH, REGISTERED.

THEY ARE ALREADY, THEY ALREADY APPROVED IT IN THEIR COUNSELING MEETING.

UH, IRVING SUPPORTED, DIANE CARTWRIGHT, GLENN HEIGHTS SUPPORTED, UH, SANTI ALLEN, UH, SEXY SUPPORT IT, BRED FRAKES AND HUDSON SUPPORT IT, SEE THE HEATER.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE DO IT TONIGHT SO THAT WHEREVER WE CHOOSE OUT OF THESE NOMINEES ARE ODD NAME OF GOING IN.

OKAY.

BUT HE'S BEEN THE ONE FROM PAST YEARS.

YEAH.

BUT I'LL TELL YOU NOW, I MEAN, HAVE HEARD THAT HAS THE MAJORITY AND OUR BELTS HAVE A BROKEN DALLAS.

SO, SO THE INTENT IS IF MICHAEL HURT IS THE APPOINTEE, THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULD REACH OUT TO MY AREA TO TALK TO HIM ABOUT YOUR ISSUE.

IS THAT OKAY? LIKE I SAY, UH, I WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTING THEM.

OKAY.

FAIR ENOUGH.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR A MAYOR PRO TEM SINS, AND THE SECOND FROM , UH, YOU KNOW, THE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, COUNCIL, ANY OTHER NOMINEES? NOMINATIONS.

ALRIGHT.

ALL IN FAVOR, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT IN ANY OPPOSITION.

ALRIGHT, ONE FAIR ENOUGH, BECKY, UH, KATIE FOR THAT.

[d. Consider approving Resolution No. R21-642 casting votes for the election of a representative to the Ellis Appraisal District's Board of Directors for the years 2022-2023.]

ALL RIGHT.

LAST ITEM ON THE RIVER TENDER FOR THE YEAR, 2021, UH, CUSTOMER, UH, APPROVING RESOLUTION NUMBER R 21 DASH 6 42 CASTING VOTES FOR THE ELECTION OF A REPRESENTATIVE TO THE ELLIS APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR THE YEARS OF 20 22, 20 23 COUNCIL.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? UM, IF NOT, THE FLOOR IS OPEN.

YEAH.

SO I WOULD NEED A MOTION.

I'M SORRY.

I WOULD NEED A NOMINEE AND THEN, AND THEN WE WILL VOTE.

SO YOU NAME ANY, YOU NOMINATE JOE PITT.

WAS IT RYAN? PETE? SORRY.

ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS COUNCIL? OH, OKAY.

UH, THIS IS THE FIRST IT'S THE FIRST HYPERLINK.

HMM.

YEAH, IT'S ON THE BIG SCREEN.

UM, THAT'S ON HAYDEN.

IT'S ON THE BIG SCREEN.

IT'S ON A BIG SCREEN.

YOU'VE PUSHED A B YEAH, RIGHT HERE.

PUSH CV.

OH, I THOUGHT HE WAS DOING IT FOR THIS OKAY.

I HONESTLY, I WAS KINDA RELIED ON YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE

[02:55:01]

THE ONE NORMALLY BIRDING IN ELLIS COUNTY.

UH, ANY, ANY NOMINATIONS COUNCIL? DO WE HAVE THE VOTE ON? SEE THE MANAGER.

OKAY.

SO WE JUST, WE JUST CHOOSE NOT TO MAKE A NOMINEE.

OKAY.

UM, CITY MANAGER PORTAL.

DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION COMING UP? ALL RIGHT.

IN ORDER FOR US TO GO TO THE NEXT ITEM, UH, I NEED A MOTION COUNSEL.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, BUT I JUST NEED A MOTION.

OH, FOR JOHN.

OKAY.

I BELIEVE HE HE'S.

HE'S A, HE'S AN INCUMBENT ALSO, BUT WE HAVE 11 VOTES OUT OF LIKE, WHAT WAS IT? 20,000.

SO THIS ISN'T GOING TO INFLUENCE THE OUTCOME OF THE, OF THE, OH, WELL HE'LL BETTER REPRESENT AS WELL.

OR I REMEMBER THIS NIGHT BETTER 11 VOTES.

I DO HAVE A MESSAGE FOR JOHN.

MIKE, DO I HAVE A SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND FROM KUTZTOWN? BUT HEY, ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS, ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? ALL RIGHT.

IF NOT ON THE FIRST VIRGINIA NIGHT, PLEASE RAISE RIGHT IN ANY OPPOSITION.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND BACK OR YOUR OPPOSING.

YES.

OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR THAT COUNCIL MOTION TO ADJOURN.

AND I DO HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND I DO HAVE A SECOND, UH, NON-DEPENDENT EMOTION ON THE PAGE RAISE RIGHT IN.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

HAVE A HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

BE SAFE, EVERYONE.

WE ALL HAVE 9 58.